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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

Marty

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It's not a bad shout and had been suggested elsewhere. I suspect though that the PL especially will first turn over every stone in a bid to play out the remaining fixtures.
I agree, the proposal is a good one and might well be what actually happens. But the financial aspect of not finishing the season is a killer.

The PL haven't released any figures but the President of La Liga (or the Spanish FA, one of the two) spoke about how much the league in Spain stood to lose from any of the likely scenarios. Alvaro Romeo ran through the figures on the Totally Football Show recently.

Voiding the season: €1bn loss
Finishing behind closed doors: €350m loss
Finishing in June/July with spectators and starting the new season on time: €150m loss

I imagine the figures are at least equal in the PL, probably greater, and there's no way in hell the PL and the clubs will decide to void the season before all other options have been explored.
 

spursfan77

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I agree, the proposal is a good one and might well be what actually happens. But the financial aspect of not finishing the season is a killer.

The PL haven't released any figures but the President of La Liga (or the Spanish FA, one of the two) spoke about how much the league in Spain stood to lose from any of the likely scenarios. Alvaro Romeo ran through the figures on the Totally Football Show recently.

Voiding the season: €1bn loss
Finishing behind closed doors: €350m loss
Finishing in June/July with spectators and starting the new season on time: €150m loss

I imagine the figures are at least equal in the PL, probably greater, and there's no way in hell the PL and the clubs will decide to void the season before all other options have been explored.

I suspect negotiations have been ongoing between all parties since the first postponement. Something will have to be decided before July though because not starting next season is more damaging than not finishing this one. They’ll work something out.
 

JCRD

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It's not a bad shout and had been suggested elsewhere. I suspect though that the PL especially will first turn over every stone in a bid to play out the remaining fixtures.

Oh i also think the likes of Levy and others want to play out the remaining games - otherwise refunding all that cash is a ball ache for them and certainly hurt transfers etc.

I personally think the season should be scrapped, its been nice without football (ad Spurs for a bit) although in shitty circumstances.
 

Metalhead

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I agree, the proposal is a good one and might well be what actually happens. But the financial aspect of not finishing the season is a killer.

The PL haven't released any figures but the President of La Liga (or the Spanish FA, one of the two) spoke about how much the league in Spain stood to lose from any of the likely scenarios. Alvaro Romeo ran through the figures on the Totally Football Show recently.

Voiding the season: €1bn loss
Finishing behind closed doors: €350m loss
Finishing in June/July with spectators and starting the new season on time: €150m loss

I imagine the figures are at least equal in the PL, probably greater, and there's no way in hell the PL and the clubs will decide to void the season before all other options have been explored.
Oh i also think the likes of Levy and others want to play out the remaining games - otherwise refunding all that cash is a ball ache for them and certainly hurt transfers etc.

I personally think the season should be scrapped, its been nice without football (ad Spurs for a bit) although in shitty circumstances.
That's the thing - of course from our supporters point of view, scrapping the season would be good but from a financial point of view, the PL and the clubs will do anything to minimise the fallout from coronovirus so yes, we can give scrapping the season the thumbs up but that isn't the best outcome for others. I think that's what some people on here are missing when they are 'doh'ing and 'wtf'ing people who are suggesting that the season may be played out. It's not what we as Spurs fans want - it's what might happen.
 

Marty

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That's the thing - of course from our supporters point of view, scrapping the season would be good but from a financial point of view, the PL and the clubs will do anything to minimise the fallout from coronovirus so yes, we can give scrapping the season the thumbs up but that isn't the best outcome for others. I think that's what some people on here are missing when they are 'doh'ing and 'wtf'ing people who are suggesting that the season may be played out. It's not what we as Spurs fans want - it's what might happen.
Totally. I also have no doubt that Spurs can survive the financial hit, but can Norwich, Brighton, Bournemouth or Crystal Palace? That I'm not so sure of. It's for the sake of those clubs that they have to explore all options to try to finish the season.

We have to show solidarity and help all clubs, both PL and lower divisions, get through this. Too many clubs that are pillars of their communities are already on the brink of insolvency, this will surely push a lot over the edge.
 

Yiddo100

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I bet however they decide to end the season it’s not good for us though. The authorities have never done anything in our favour. Since the season has been postponed I can’t stop thinking, in relation to this, about when arsenal stole our place in the top division and something similar happening.
We’ve had a shit show of a season, if it gets cancelled we’ll probably be 8/9th and that’s our own fault
 

Wsussexspur

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I bet however they decide to end the season it’s not good for us though. The authorities have never done anything in our favour. Since the season has been postponed I can’t stop thinking, in relation to this, about when arsenal stole our place in the top division and something similar happening.

To be fair why should we get any favours from them? We only have ourselves to blame for the position we find ourselves in due to our incompetent displays for 95% of this season.
 

Yiddo100

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Patrick thistle have been relegated even though they have a game in hand on team above, which if they won would take them out of the drop zone.
There will be lawsuits galore in Scotland
 

Wsussexspur

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Seems to be growing momentum for the league to be finished end of June. Obviously not going to be able to play remaining games by then so surely only two options left void or keep the places the same as they are when the last round of games finished.

 
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Wsussexspur

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Patrick thistle have been relegated even though they have a game in hand on team above, which if they won would take them out of the drop zone.
There will be lawsuits galore in Scotland


Imagine that is why they made the decision by vote with all clubs having one vote each. As makes it harder for clubs to take legal action. The clubs were given options in the vote to end the season early as it is or try and play on when it was possible and the majority of clubs voted for the season to end.
 

buckley

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For me its not about us its about mainly the relegation area where they would be opening a can of worms as there is untold outcomes that could be possible and the teams relegated would fight tooth and nail that they could or would have survived relegation and possible legal action or claims of lost revenue against any such decisions .
 

Wsussexspur

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For me its not about us its about mainly the relegation area where they would be opening a can of worms as there is untold outcomes that could be possible and the teams relegated would fight tooth and nail that they could or would have survived relegation and possible legal action or claims of lost revenue against any such decisions .

They wont be able to do much if decision is made by vote by every league club as what has happened in Scotland.

Which is the only way id imagine they would void/ finish the league as it is.
 

Monkey boy

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I bet however they decide to end the season it’s not good for us though. The authorities have never done anything in our favour. Since the season has been postponed I can’t stop thinking, in relation to this, about when arsenal stole our place in the top division and something similar happening.

yea I’m sure that’s at the top of the agenda. How can we possibly screw over Tottenham. Come on guys, get a grip.
 

Monkey boy

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Patrick thistle have been relegated even though they have a game in hand on team above, which if they won would take them out of the drop zone.
There will be lawsuits galore in Scotland

I always liked that Patrick Thistle myself, thought he was a really nice guy.
 

stormfly

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Give Liverpool the league, bottom 3 play off against the top 3 in the championship as soon as it’s safe to do so to decide the last 3 places. Make the CL a one off knock out competition, enter everyone but teams in the top 4 don’t enter until round 3 (FA Cup style). Sorted, you’re welcome.
 

Monkey boy

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Give Liverpool the league, bottom 3 play off against the top 3 in the championship as soon as it’s safe to do so to decide the last 3 places. Make the CL a one off knock out competition, enter everyone but teams in the top 4 don’t enter until round 3 (FA Cup style). Sorted, you’re welcome.

Nah
 

Marty

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Give Liverpool the league, bottom 3 play off against the top 3 in the championship as soon as it’s safe to do so to decide the last 3 places. Make the CL a one off knock out competition, enter everyone but teams in the top 4 don’t enter until round 3 (FA Cup style). Sorted, you’re welcome.
I'd love it if they brought back the old European Cup format, even just for one season. Random draw, no seeding, straight knockout competition, bosh it out in no time. They might have to do that (although you can bet your house on UEFA deciding to seed teams for as long as possible anyway) if there is to be a CL next season.
 

spursfan77

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yea I’m sure that’s at the top of the agenda. How can we possibly screw over Tottenham. Come on guys, get a grip.

I am not saying it will be in their minds at all. I’m just saying I bet whatever outcome occurs it won’t benefit us. We are never that lucky!
 

vegassd

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Seems to be growing momentum for the league to be finished end of June. Obviously not going to be able to play remaining games by then so surely only two options left void or keep the places the same as they are when the last round of games finished.
I don't think keeping places the same as the last round of games would be an option.

It would be easy enough to calculate the average points per game for each team and extrapolate from that. In that scenario Sheffield would overtake Wolves and Arsenal would overtake us. The relegation places would stay the same.

I've also seen a suggestion on the BBC site about splitting those averages home and away and extrapolating from that, so if a team had more home games remaining than others they would get a bit of a boost. Again Sheffield overtake Wolves but we remain above Arsenal. Bournemouth climb to safety above West Ham who would then be relegated. :whistle:

If there needs to be 14 teams voting in agreement I can definitely see either of those averaging options being picked over a void season. The current top 5 would all be happy plus team 10-17 would be as well... whether team 17 is West Ham or Bournemouth. That makes 13 votes so only needs 1 of Sheffield, Wolves, Spurs, Arsenal, Villa, Norwich to add their vote. Of that group I could certainly see Sheffield deciding that a Europa place is great and falling in line.

Voiding might be great for us but only if CL places revert to last season's results. I can also see completing the season as a decent option for us - our injuries will have cleared and without crowds the playing talent should (in theory) do more of the talking. So much depends on how long the lockdown continues and how long it takes to get community-levels of virus tests available.
 

Spurs 1961

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They may play games in June but there will be no spectators. I cannot visualise large public gatherings being allowed for some time yet. So what are clubs going to do about the games season ticket holders have missed out on?
 
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