Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

[homer hotspur]

If that does happen with Villa, we should be on to Grealish pronto given a second chance.

We will be knocked over in the rush by others this time. I think man Utd already have him lined up.

 

[Trees]

We will be knocked over in the rush by others this time. I think man Utd already have him lined up.

Agreed. Ship has sailed.

 

[rossdapep]

Like I said mate, all players and all staff tested and locked down with no contact prior to mixing with each other.

But where do they eat?
The catering staff need to be in the same building as players and they don't just eat cooked food, the physios need to make physical contact with players, the kit man physically touches clothing that the players wear, security work on the premises and need to use facilities - which means touching things.

Nothing is foolproof with this virus unless you live alone in isolation. There's always a chance it gets in when you've got people coming and going.

What about all the coaches? Keep them away from their families?

What about video analysis? What about injured players?

This isn't as simple as you're making out.

 

[bubble07]

One way of cancelling the leagues I suspect is to award the PL to Liverscum and not to relegate anyone and promote the top two or three/four in those automatic promotion positions in the Championship and leagues one and two. The only ones that would moan would be the teams in the play off places but any decision will end up with unhappy teams and its all about reducing the legal ramifications I suspect.

Then next season you relegate four/five/six teams

I suspect thats how it could and may play out.

Who gets CL places??

 

[JCRD]

Who gets CL places??

Id say the league positions stands... all league positions... so if that means top four or top five (dependent on Man CIitys) situation then so be it.

 

[Yid-ol]

Id say the league positions stands... all league positions... so if that means top four or top five (dependent on Man CIitys) situation then so be it.

If league positions stand, teams in relegation places go down. If the league starts late, last thing we need is more games in an already crowded season with more teams in the league.

 

[mpickard2087]

Big no to behind closed doors football. Should only restart when joe public is allowed to go about their routines as near as possible, such as attending sporting events.

 

[Hercules]

If season is ‘null and void’. It means it is terminated. Records erased etc. In other words blank season. Hence, it starts again. If this is the case CL place qualifiers is the same teams from 2018/19 season. There is absolutely no way you can predict by any scientific way who would of won the league, based upon facts. All be-it nobody would argue Liverpool would be champions. However, it is not mathematical fact. VAR would agree (?) or relegated as a computerised fact. It is not black and white. So if season terminated my argument stands as a matter of fact. This is my own opinion based upon law in context.

regardless of any financial ramifications to any benefactor of our game, you cannot legislate by creating some form of rule of champions, relegation etc.

 

[JCRD]

If league positions stand, teams in relegation places go down. If the league starts late, last thing we need is more games in an already crowded season with more teams in the league.

Yes but the legalities of that doesnt make it worth while. As I said there is no way that the PL will appease all.

In all honesty, the way we were going, we should thank our lucky stars we finish 8th and the 8th position money to go along with it.

 

[Thewobbler]

Whatever way it goes there will be lawsuits flying around. If what some are saying and they cant see no spectators at sport until next year then the games will have to go on behind closed doors as a lot of clubs wont be able to survive. They still have to pay the players whether there is football or not.

The football league would be in big trouble, probably will be if no fans can attend for a while, and its just not football that will suffer, rugby and the rest of them.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

But where do they eat?
The catering staff need to be in the same building as players and they don't just eat cooked food, the physios need to make physical contact with players, the kit man physically touches clothing that the players wear, security work on the premises and need to use facilities - which means touching things.

Nothing is foolproof with this virus unless you live alone in isolation. There's always a chance it gets in when you've got people coming and going.

What about all the coaches? Keep them away from their families?

What about video analysis? What about injured players?

This isn't as simple as you're making out.

Not to mention a broadcasting staff of a bare minimum of 25-ish people all the way up to 50+ odd depending on the level of coverage

 

[NickHSpurs]

But where do they eat?
The catering staff need to be in the same building as players and they don't just eat cooked food, the physios need to make physical contact with players, the kit man physically touches clothing that the players wear, security work on the premises and need to use facilities - which means touching things.

Nothing is foolproof with this virus unless you live alone in isolation. There's always a chance it gets in when you've got people coming and going.

What about all the coaches? Keep them away from their families?

What about video analysis? What about injured players?

This isn't as simple as you're making out.

It's not simple but it's certainly doable with the facilities and money available.

Individually isolated so they can cook for themselves in an apartment for a week, have pre-prepared meals or worst case have food delivered to their door every day? They don't need to come into contact with physios for that lock down week/two, home exercise as they're doing now.

As for the time away from their families, most would have been off to the Euros anyway and they're probably sick of them by now

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

It's not simple but it's certainly doable with the facilities and money available.

Individually isolated so they can cook for themselves in an apartment for a week, have pre-prepared meals or worst case have food delivered to their door every day? They don't need to come into contact with physios for that lock down week/two, home exercise as they're doing now.

As for the time away from their families, most would have been off to the Euros anyway and they're probably sick of them by now

Families went with the England squad to the World Cup in 2018. So yeah...

If people genuinely want football to be forced through and played with the backdrop as it is - I genuinely don't understand people and their priorities.

This is not even factoring in there needs to be medical professionals in attendance at all these football games - medical professionals that are spread thin and have been on the front line fighting this absolute nightmare. These people, once this settles down, deserve some rest and shouldn't be in a position where they are rushed into having to attend pointless football matches.

 

[Lighty64]

Patrick thistle have been relegated even though they have a game in hand on team above, which if they won would take them out of the drop zone.
There will be lawsuits galore in Scotland

my Scottish team, hope Dundee get relegated next season

(my ex brother-in-law's cousin played for them, so adopted them)

 

[Shadydan]

Id say the league positions stands... all league positions... so if that means top four or top five (dependent on Man CIitys) situation then so be it.

That's dumb, there's teams with games in hand over others for example.

 

[King of Otters]

The Times listed three possible scenarios today in the eventuality that the season is cancelled. Don’t know how much of this is pure guesswork, but none of them do us any favours.


How to work out table if season is not completed
Premier League clubs are pushing for the season to end on July 1 regardless of whether the remaining fixtures can be completed. Given that not all teams have played the same number of games, a formula will need to be devised to resolve key issues such as the Champions League places and relegation. With Manchester City banned from Europe next season, fifth place would ensure Champions League football. Bill Edgar outlines three ways the final table could be calculated.

Option one
Points per game
The most straightforward way to calculate the standings, with teams’ current points totals divided by their games played to give a points per game figure. The only change to the current table would be Sheffield United and Arsenal, who each have a game
in hand on most of their rivals, leapfrogging Wolves and Tottenham. Goal difference is used to separate any teams level on points per game, so Watford and West Ham would be saved, with Bournemouth going down.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester City, Chelsea, Man Utd
Europa League place Sheffield United
Relegated Bournemouth, Aston Villa, Norwich City

Option two
First meetings this season
Only matches from the first 19 rounds of fixtures are counted to avoid differences in opposition — for example some teams have played strong sides such as Liverpool and Manchester City twice, while others have only faced them once.
The problem with this method is that it does not account for current form, meaning that Watford would be relegated based on poor results before their upturn in fortunes after Nigel Pearson arrived
in December.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Man Utd
Europa League place Sheffield United
Relegated Aston Villa, Watford, Norwich City

Option three
Predict the remaining fixtures
Teams’ home and away form this season can be used to predict any unplayed game. For each fixture, the home team’s average points per home game is compared with the away team’s average points per away game, with extra weighting for the past five home and away matches respectively.
If one team’s figure is at least 0.2 greater than the other, they are winners. Otherwise, the match is drawn. Under this model Sheffield United versus Wolves, which was due to be played on Sunday, would go down as a home win — with United having an average home points score of 1.8 and Wolves an away score of 1.4.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Sheffield United
Europa League place Man Utd
Relegated Watford, Aston Villa, Norwich

 

[JCRD]

That's dumb, there's teams with games in hand over others for example.

Every solution will be dumb in that case. No solution will eliminate all conditions. If we null and void it which is the only way to avoid any of those issues youll still get teams in second or third or Liverpool even going what the fuck?

Only alternative is to play all games even behind closed doors It may be neutral venues it may not be. Who knows.

I will say this though - we will be getting soem form of netflix style football in the very near future as i think attendances will be at an all time low goign forward either through restrictiosn or fans not going.

 

[Amo]

so we can’t get enough test kits for front line workers who are fighting and sometimes paying with their lives but we can make sure that a couple of hundred are made available to a bunch of millionaire footballers just so that we can complete a season?

Eh? There are loads of private providers of tests. The issue isn't 100 here or 1000 there. The issue is 100,000s of thousands.

 

[stov]

The Times listed three possible scenarios today in the eventuality that the season is cancelled. Don’t know how much of this is pure guesswork, but none of them do us any favours.


How to work out table if season is not completed
Premier League clubs are pushing for the season to end on July 1 regardless of whether the remaining fixtures can be completed. Given that not all teams have played the same number of games, a formula will need to be devised to resolve key issues such as the Champions League places and relegation. With Manchester City banned from Europe next season, fifth place would ensure Champions League football. Bill Edgar outlines three ways the final table could be calculated.

Option one
Points per game
The most straightforward way to calculate the standings, with teams’ current points totals divided by their games played to give a points per game figure. The only change to the current table would be Sheffield United and Arsenal, who each have a game
in hand on most of their rivals, leapfrogging Wolves and Tottenham. Goal difference is used to separate any teams level on points per game, so Watford and West Ham would be saved, with Bournemouth going down.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester City, Chelsea, Man Utd
Europa League place Sheffield United
Relegated Bournemouth, Aston Villa, Norwich City

Option two
First meetings this season
Only matches from the first 19 rounds of fixtures are counted to avoid differences in opposition — for example some teams have played strong sides such as Liverpool and Manchester City twice, while others have only faced them once.
The problem with this method is that it does not account for current form, meaning that Watford would be relegated based on poor results before their upturn in fortunes after Nigel Pearson arrived
in December.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Man Utd
Europa League place Sheffield United
Relegated Aston Villa, Watford, Norwich City

Option three
Predict the remaining fixtures
Teams’ home and away form this season can be used to predict any unplayed game. For each fixture, the home team’s average points per home game is compared with the away team’s average points per away game, with extra weighting for the past five home and away matches respectively.
If one team’s figure is at least 0.2 greater than the other, they are winners. Otherwise, the match is drawn. Under this model Sheffield United versus Wolves, which was due to be played on Sunday, would go down as a home win — with United having an average home points score of 1.8 and Wolves an away score of 1.4.
Champions League places Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Sheffield United
Europa League place Man Utd
Relegated Watford, Aston Villa, Norwich

All of those are unfair and messy. Void the season. Relegating teams on the above options would be a travesty.

 

[Shadydan]

Every solution will be dumb in that case. No solution will eliminate all conditions. If we null and void it which is the only way to avoid any of those issues youll still get teams in second or third or Liverpool even going what the fuck?

Only alternative is to play all games even behind closed doors It may be neutral venues it may not be. Who knows.

I will say this though - we will be getting soem form of netflix style football in the very near future as i think attendances will be at an all time low goign forward either through restrictiosn or fans not going.

Some less dumb than others it seems...voiding the season altogether is the fairest option for everyone.