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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

BringBack_leGin

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Fuck football...fuck premier league..and even fuck Spurs. It's not that important. I'm really not missing it. I'm missing my family and friends, who are more important than I realised.
Fuck them all so much that you’re taking the time to post on a forum about Spurs, a football club playing in the premier league? ?

We all miss our family and friends, it’s possible to miss football too without cheapening that. Doesn’t mean we’d want football back at the detriment of public health, only that having football back is one of many things people can look forward to when this is all over.
 
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Archibald&Crooks

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If the PL think they can finish the season without players or members of staff involved with the games being infected then they are absolutely delusional. The chances of that are slim to none. Norway started opening schools and kindergartens last week and it only took a few days before some had to be shut down due to someone there testing positive.

Is it true that UEFA are saying if the season is cancelled that the current league positions will decide European cup places? How is that even fair when we have several teams ahead of us in the table that we have yet to play against at home but have played away?
I think fair is about to fly out of the window. And quite right too. The modern world has never known anything like this and quite simply (in my opinion), fair can and should take a massive back seat. You would have won the league Liverpool? Tough. What? You might have got promoted? Suck it up. If clubs want to start going to court over their assorted disappointments it wouldn't surprise me if public onion was massively against them. How can you settle such a complicated matter legally in time for a new season anyway?

Quite simply, the clubs have to suck on the iron tit. Wether they do or not is another matter.
 

jonnyp

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I think fair is about to fly out of the window. And quite right too. The modern world has never known anything like this and quite simply (in my opinion), fair can and should take a massive back seat. You would have won the league Liverpool? Tough. What? You might have got promoted? Suck it up. If clubs want to start going to court over their assorted disappointments it wouldn't surprise me if public onion was massively against them. How can you settle such a complicated matter legally in time for a new season anyway?

Quite simply, the clubs have to suck on the iron tit. Wether they do or not is another matter.

Well that's exactly my point. This season, if cancelled, is null and void. So if relegation/promotion is void and Liverpool doesn't get the title etc, then how can they decide European cup places based on league standings at the time of cancellation? They should reset all competitions, domestic and continental, and start next season as if this cancelled season never happened. I don't think clubs would have much legal standing against such a decision if it were to be made. as they cannot argue against the math that there are enough games, and thereby points, left to be made or lost to majorly alter the final league standings.
 

walworthyid

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I'm starting to wonder if there will be a next season, let alone finishing this one.
Exactly. In my opinion there will be no football this season. Furthermore, there will be no large public gatherings in 2020, including sports events.

Personally, I'm not missing spurs at all. I guess i miss football to some extent, but watching us has been so depressing for such a long time.

The only downside is that Mourinho will still be manager no matter how long it takes.
 

thebenjamin

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If season is voided as ‘null and void’ you cannot reinvent rules to suit. It means legally tgr season never happened. It is deleted! You then only have one choice, and that is to revisit tgr last active season, and take it from there. Anyhow you justify too 4 etc, you are walking into severe legal trouble. And clubs like ours would definitely seek legal consultation. You then have issues with who you seem to qualify for EL. And it gets more fuzzy. Because now you have EFL suing PL for some form of unfair sporting bias to Leeds and WBA for example.

it is not as simplistic as you think. So if voided, it starts as season started August 2019. That means CL/EL teams represent PL. from a personal POV, I 100% do not want us in any European competition under these very critical circumstances!

The total void option isn't on the table anywhere. It's probably the one thing that definitely won't happen.
 

NickHSpurs

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The responsible thing to do would be cancel all cup competitions next season, domestic and European. Then just restart the season in August as planned and bolt the end of this season on to the beginning of next.

Zero chance of that happening though, ask Jessie J why!
 

spursfan77

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I think fair is about to fly out of the window. And quite right too. The modern world has never known anything like this and quite simply (in my opinion), fair can and should take a massive back seat. You would have won the league Liverpool? Tough. What? You might have got promoted? Suck it up. If clubs want to start going to court over their assorted disappointments it wouldn't surprise me if public onion was massively against them. How can you settle such a complicated matter legally in time for a new season anyway?

Quite simply, the clubs have to suck on the iron tit. Wether they do or not is another matter.

I think it depends on which club did the going to court and how it is covered. If Liverpool took the PL to court for not awarding them the title or Watford did for relegating them I think it would be covered differently than if it was us, Man City or West Ham doing it for example.
 

spursfan77

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just reading this it seems a complete shit show! With the government seemingly egging them on.. As helps take attention from them and how they are handling this crises.

Thats not exactly true. The ministers words were actually this:

“I personally have been in talks with the Premier League with a view to getting football up and running as soon as possible in order to support the whole football community,” he said. “But, of course, any such moves would have to be consistent with public health guidance.”

So hardly egging on, just supporting them doing it.
 

coys200

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I'm starting to wonder if there will be a next season, let alone finishing this one.

Sad to say apart from 10% of population “possibly” having immunity I don’t see a whole lot has changed. Yes we will social distance and be more aware and will be more testing. But remember this has all happened in Spring in the warmest April on record. I dread to think of another spike in actual flu season November-February.
 

vegassd

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Sad to say apart from 10% of population “possibly” having immunity I don’t see a whole lot has changed.
What will change is the understanding on the virus and the capacity to deal with it. We don't do social distancing for "normal" flu and in time we won't do it for C19 either.

I'm sure that the government and their advisors have an eye on Winter and will be wanting to get as many non-vulnerable people back out in society and exposed to the virus as possible - in as safe a way as possible. If people can predict the number of cases over Winter and be prepared then the virus is far less scary than it is now.
 

Mr Pink

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Can't see the season being completed at all, which is what the majority of us were thinking. It's just a complete minefield in terms of integrity, and even morality.

The cleanest way is just to void the season and try be ready for starting next season at the start of September. And even that might be optimistic.

Like A&C said, Clubs have to suck it up.
 

tototoner

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Sadly it’s all about money and the fans are not a big consideration for PL teams. The game is all about TV as that is where the big bucks are.

To me playing behind closed doors makes a mockery of the game. Watching on TV is a poor substitute but when it is not in real time is pointless

spot on, people will be in for a shock how poor the product is without fans
 

tototoner

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Can't see the season being completed at all, which is what the majority of us were thinking. It's just a complete minefield in terms of integrity, and even morality.

The cleanest way is just to void the season and try be ready for starting next season at the start of September. And even that might be optimistic.

Like A&C said, Clubs have to suck it up.

could be a legal nightmare
 

NickHSpurs

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I feel like the PL are waiting for more leagues to set the tone, I think the Bundesliga are making an announcement tomorrow so it will be interesting what they decide. La Liga are returning to training next week but no date on a playing return yet. Serie A planning to restart in June.

We do have to "live with" the virus at some point and return some industry to a restricted version of work otherwise there isn't going to be anything left of the economy and worse than that this is going to get even worse in winter if we all suddenly start doing more towards the end of the year rather than the warmer months.

I'm not sure there is a correct answer to anything to do with the virus, until there is a vaccine everything is going to have an element of risk attached to it, I wouldn't want to be in anyone's shoes having to make any decisions in any industry, every single argument and idea will have a counter one.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Thats not exactly true. The ministers words were actually this:

“I personally have been in talks with the Premier League with a view to getting football up and running as soon as possible in order to support the whole football community,” he said. “But, of course, any such moves would have to be consistent with public health guidance.”

So hardly egging on, just supporting them doing it.
It makes perfect sense for everyone involved to as well-prepared as possible for a restart as if it could happen tomorrow. Doesn't mean anyone expects it to.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Exactly. In my opinion there will be no football this season. Furthermore, there will be no large public gatherings in 2020, including sports events.

Personally, I'm not missing spurs at all. I guess i miss football to some extent, but watching us has been so depressing for such a long time.

The only downside is that Mourinho will still be manager no matter how long it takes.
On the bright side, Mourinho's contract length is reducing each and every day..
 
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