Ryan Sessegnon

[RichieS]

You say this, but i really don't see how another season in the championship is going to help his progression more than coming to a PL club, especially one with a history in developing youngsters would right now? Surely getting him acclimatised to a much higher calibre of football, even if its not straight into the first team, is the best thing for him.
Believe it or not a lot of agents actually do whats best for their clients in the long run.

I think Levy actually gets on rather well with a lot of them as well... I'm sure we had detailed ITK or an article back in the mists of time which said as much.

 

[SpartanSpur]

You say this, but i really don't see how another season in the championship is going to help his progression more than coming to a PL club, especially one with a history in developing youngsters would right now? Surely getting him acclimatised to a much higher calibre of football, even if its not straight into the first team, is the best thing for him.
Believe it or not a lot of agents actually do whats best for their clients in the long run.

If he is indeed with Harry's agency, they will likely have a good relationship with the club and will have faith that Poch will give him opportunites. If he comes to Tottenham and exceeds early expectations (which he could if we play him LWB or as an impact sub) he may even have an outside shot at the England squad.

We are actually a great club for English wonderkids in that respect, it's not even a blatant cash grab by trying to get him here.

Personal take is Fulham won't want to sell and the player regardless of agent will not jeopardise his relationship with Fulham and their fans. Does bode well for future windows though...

 

[hutchiniho]

I really think this is a player we should be going all guns to get.

If our interest, as per the ITK, is to get him further down the line, surely signing him now and loaning him back for a season , would be the way to go.

If we are confident in his talent and ability get him secured for the future now, don't give the other clubs a sniff.

 

[Keith Morris]

If he is indeed with Harry's agency, they will likely have a good relationship with the club and will have faith that Poch will give him opportunites. If he comes to Tottenham and exceeds early expectations (which he could if we play him LWB or as an impact sub) he may even have an outside shot at the England squad.

We are actually a great club for English wonderkids in that respect, it's not even a blatant cash grab by trying to get him here.

Personal take is Fulham won't want to sell and the player regardless of agent will not jeopardise his relationship with Fulham and their fans. Does bode well for future windows though...

I go to a gym in Hastings where a lad called Josh (ex Aston Villa pro apparently) we've spoken football and he is meant to work for the agency that looks after Harry. Could be guff but I tend to believe him, I'll do some questioning next time I bump into him. He did tell me that Chelsea are after a rather costly teenager from Ipswich (this was about a month ago) and that the agents fees involved are just as substantial as some of the big deals

 

[Gb160]

im not going to explain a post that was clearly meant to be taken as a joke. I never thought I'd run into an agent defender on SC, lol.
I think you are underestimating the quality of football that can be played at championship level, especially at some of the higher end clubs and the importance of game time has for a youngsters development. Personally I'm found of Jankovic Fulham's manager, as he seems good for youth and he plays some slick football.

Don't get me wrong I'd much rather have Sessegnon on our books, the sooner the better, but as I've posted before our club as approached this transfer with a long term objective in mind and ultimately that's why im pretty confident we'll get our man with or without an agent's help. Tho it is shamelessly appriciated.

Haha, don't get me wrong, there's obviously some snake agents out there but I think they all get tarred with the same brush sometimes.
From a Poch interview I read ages back he was questioned about his willingness to use youngsters and promote from the academy to the first team, I'm paraphrasing here but his answer was along the lines of 'the younger you can get a player playing at the highest level, the better it is for them, and the higher their ceiling becomes'...and it makes perfect sense really, he's already got a shitload of championship appearances under his belt and maybe there's only so much you can learn at that level.
You're not alone in watching the championship mate, Brighton have been my second team for a good few years now due to family, and I've watched a lot over the last few years, I'm not saying the standard's poor, but it's not the PL imo.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Could see us signing him now, loaning him back for this season and selling Rose next summer.

 

[allpaths]

Haha, don't get me wrong, there's obviously some snake agents out there but I think they all get tarred with the same brush sometimes.
From a Poch interview I read ages back he was questioned about his willingness to use youngsters and promote from the academy to the first team, I'm paraphrasing here but his answer was along the lines of 'the younger you can get a player playing at the highest level, the better it is for them, and the higher their ceiling becomes'...and it makes perfect sense really, he's already got a shitload of championship appearances under his belt and maybe there's only so much you can learn at that level.
You're not alone in watching the championship mate, Brighton have been my second team for a good few years now due to family, and I've watched a lot over the last few years, I'm not saying the standard's poor, but it's not the PL imo.

interesting i didnt hear that poch pov. That said I believe youth development is never that simple and one method that works for one player doesn't necessarily work for another. Prime example is Winks and Onomah.
And to clarify I do like one or two agents, Harry Kane's agents and Gareth Bale's Jon Barnett who I thought handled his transfer as well as you possible could for a transfer of that magnitude.

 

[Bware]

Could see us signing him now, loaning him back for this season and selling Rose next summer.

The best option for us if they will accept in my opinion

but I think they see the way the transfer market looks and will hope for £40+ million next summer

 

[Adam456]

I said earlier in the thread that we should be offering them a 2-year loan. He would still only be 19 when he came here and they may well get promoted anyway so he gets PL exp. We could always insert a clause that said we pay x million to have him a year early

 

[Larryjanta]

If we sign him, I doubt we'll loan him. Can't see Levy happy with a £20-30m asset not being coached by Poch

 

[TTID2002]

Daniel and Shahid Khan don't get along, wouldn't expect this to be easy for us at all. Was much easier before he signed the new contract.

 

[Mate]

Haha, don't get me wrong, there's obviously some snake agents out there but I think they all get tarred with the same brush sometimes.
From a Poch interview I read ages back he was questioned about his willingness to use youngsters and promote from the academy to the first team, I'm paraphrasing here but his answer was along the lines of 'the younger you can get a player playing at the highest level, the better it is for them, and the higher their ceiling becomes'...and it makes perfect sense really, he's already got a shitload of championship appearances under his belt and maybe there's only so much you can learn at that level.
You're not alone in watching the championship mate, Brighton have been my second team for a good few years now due to family, and I've watched a lot over the last few years, I'm not saying the standard's poor, but it's not the PL imo.

Same theory applies to Eriksen, who broke through to the Ajax first team at just 16 and had over 100 appearances in the Dutch league before he joined us at 21. Also broke into the National team at 17 if I recall, and that can only have helped

 

[not_tenth-again]

What is going on?

absolutely nothing... but there is still a bit more straw that needs clutching

 

[hutchiniho]

If we sign him, I doubt we'll loan him. Can't see Levy happy with a £20-30m asset not being coached by Poch

Very true. But would you allow the loan for a year as part of a deal, if it ensures he become a Tottenham player?

 

[Hotspurious]

Very true. But would you allow the loan for a year as part of a deal, if it ensures he become a Tottenham player?

Yes

 

[ButchCassidy]

I think when he signed a new deal earlier in the window, the player and agent and club probably all knew it was for a year or two at most - I'm willing to bet there is either a contract clause or at the least a "handshake deal" to allow him to move to a top PL club after a certain offer is made. And since he signed before transfer prices skyrocketed, that agreed upon price is probably much lower than Fulham currently wish it was. Now it may simply be a matter of will Fulham go back on their word, and will the player try to force a move if they do?

 

[Trix]

Could see us signing him now, loaning him back for this season and selling Rose next summer.

I can't.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Why would Fulham sell him now and have him back on loan anyway? If they're going to keep him for another year at least then they may as well keep him properly and get even more money next summer

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Why would Fulham sell him now and have him back on loan anyway? If they're going to keep him for another year at least then they may as well keep him properly and get even more money next summer

I'm not saying they will.

But the argument would be because they can spend that money on improving the team now, WITH Sessegnon in the team and have a go at promotion this year.

 

[$hoguN]

Why would Fulham sell him now and have him back on loan anyway? If they're going to keep him for another year at least then they may as well keep him properly and get even more money next summer

Mitigation of risk. Accept a big but maybe not peak fee now, allowing you to invest in your squad and ensure that a horror injury doesn't cause you problems.