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Since we all seem to agree Spurs' strikers performed poorly last season,...

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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... then why have they not sacked Sir Les? Looks like they struggled right from the start of the season and the striking coach never was able to right the ship.

Ferdinand still at WHL and no mention he will be replaced. WTF? :shrug:

Sir Les does seem a likeable sort, but the results do speak volumes. If you equate the strikers' performance with a team's performance, then that team's manager would've been sacked by January, right?

Just bored here, raining all day. BTW - just watched Dortmund v Schalke last night with a lifelong Schalke fan. Huntelaar is pants, confirmed here in Bochum...

Overall, I like Sir Les, but sack him and get someone in who can get the strikers to perform well. End of really,.... <grump, grump>
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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Who says it is Ferdinand's fault?

Defoe has always run hot and cold. A selfish confidence player who needs a run of games to maybe find his scoring boots.

Crouch is an average player who has only done as well as he has due to his height and what it offers in the box. He's not good at keeping up with the pace of the domestic game.

Keane, well.....how on earth is it the fault of Sir Les if Keane is not scoring? The guy has pretty much had two years of bench warming outside of top flight football. Tht will damage any player.

Pav, inconsistent and probably the only player that could be worked on with Les. However, Pav is, ultimately, used as a super-sub, so who knows what would happen if he's a regular starter?

So, all in all, I'm not sure how the finger gets pointed at Les.
 

#1 Spur

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Feb 4, 2009
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Because you don't know what he does, what his remit is, explain what Les' day includes, please.

Clive had an impact on JD - he lent him a DVD and suddenly he stopped even trying to shoot - is that not a sackable offence too?
 

#1 Spur

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Whilst we're at it, Gomes has turned back into a complete plank, so do we now have to sack the very man who got him back in his groove the first time round?
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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Sack this person, sack that person.

Jeez, problems aren't always solved by just sacking someone.
 

Khilari

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I'm not sure Sir Les is a particularly useful coach. Results speak volumes and last season he wasn't able to get the best out of our strikers. He was past his best when he came to us as a striker himself but of course that doesn't mean he's not a good coach... however he couldn't inspire our forwards to better things. I'd have thought someone like Teddy would be an excellent coach (movement, finishing etc) but Harry has his favourites.
 

ginol@14

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Jun 16, 2008
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why would you sack sir les ? its not his fault , infact im certain if les played for us now he would score more goals than the 4 put together

you cant give someone shit and expect them to turn it into gold

all 4 need to go (or be given away free) asap

bring in 3 new strikers and use the ivorian lad who looks shit hot already
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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why would you sack sir les ? its not his fault , infact im certain if les played for us now he would score more goals than the 4 put together

you cant give someone shit and expect them to turn it into gold
What amuses me about the "sack Les" nonsenses is that the logic that must be applied to argue that he should be sacked would also have to be applied to Harry for not getting the best out of them.

Do we sack Harry and Sir Les?
 

antti19

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Jun 26, 2004
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Sir Les must feel the pressure...strikers coach and our strikers were very poor last season...hope we can solve this problem :)
 

brett.spurs

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Defoe came back a completely different player after his time at Pompey, a few months with Les and he's back to his old-self. I think the current coaching setup is too pally and all about having a laugh, the players are too comfortable and need to be pushed more.
 

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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What amuses me about the "sack Les" nonsenses is that the logic that must be applied to argue that he should be sacked would also have to be applied to Harry for not getting the best out of them.

Do we sack Harry and Sir Les?

Yes we should sack Harry for appointing Sir Les. We should also sack Levy for appointing Harry, and the board for appointing Levy, and the fans for daring to support the club in the first place. We should all be ashamed and go and support Man Utd.
 

Lilbaz

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Defoe came back a completely different player after his time at Pompey, a few months with Les and he's back to his old-self. I think the current coaching setup is too pally and all about having a laugh, the players are too comfortable and need to be pushed more.

Nothing to do with his injury that kept him out for a few months (we bought Keane as cover). :roll:
 

RobinLeonard

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May 8, 2008
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Defoe came back a completely different player after his time at Pompey, a few months with Les and he's back to his old-self. I think the current coaching setup is too pally and all about having a laugh, the players are too comfortable and need to be pushed more.

So Defoe is missing Tony Adam's helping hand or what?

We don't know how the coaching works, simple as. There are obvious faults in our game (lack of pressing, dropping too deep) which could possibly be attributed to bad or lack of coaching but even then it's impossible to single out individual coaches.

Defoe got to be the main man at Pompey, furthermore he came there with a point to prove. I think that could just as easily explain his good form as any special method of coaching does. Especially since he has been playing under the same manager in both teams. Thus probably not experiencing any dramatic differences in how the coaching is done.

Even if Defoe had scored 15-20 goals last season we would still be in the same situation. We need a more well rounded striker as the focal point for our attacks.

It could possibly be very beneficial to have a coaching staff with degrees in sport psychology and so forth. But at the end of the day it's up to the manager. And even if we missed out on fourth when it should have been well within our reach last season, Redknapp has done a good job for us. Since we have no clue about how individual coaches operate, we'll just have to trust that they are doing their job.
 

brett.spurs

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Nothing to do with his injury that kept him out for a few months (we bought Keane as cover). :roll:

No, because he carried his Pompey form into the following season. Looked stronger, quicker, held the ball up really well and ran the channels .. all of that along with him banging them in regularly. Now he's back looking like the weak waste of a place Defoe we sold.
 

nidge

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I do believe the phrase 'you can't polish a turd' springs to mind when we talk about coaching our strikers.
 

NEVILLEB

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Sack this person, sack that person.

Jeez, problems aren't always solved by just sacking someone.

You're fired

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