Match Threads Sporting CP Vs Spurs

[spurmin]

I agree with the Emerson thing, it's pretty lazy but he's got previous scapegoat status hanging around his neck so people will always return to that as a crutch.

As right as you are about Kane's performance last night, playing badly does not always = needs a rest. If you take notice of people in here, that makes at least six players who 'need a rest' and i'd also add that as bad as Kane was last night, he was no worse than pretty much all of them. It really is strange how people can look at that game and pick out individuals for more stick than the others. All of them were poor.

One more thing i'd like to add. Bringing in Spence for Emerson or whoever, Kulusevski for whoever and all of that, does not mean we'd get a different result. People post as if it does. We've played exactly like this with all of those players. The assumption or inference that these changes will mean a positive result is just a convenient stick to use. Especially when brought into a team with so many players who aren't good enough/need a rest/are off form

I agree that all were poor. Emerson is the new Aurier for scapegoatism.
People in here have their opinions on individuals and tend to pick on those as they see the game.
I want Kulusevski to start but as you say there are no guarantees. We conceded twice after he came on.

 

[Spurslove]

Jump on the It’s all Emerson’s fault. He wasn’t good but did you watch Harry Kane? He had the touch of an elephant last night and if anyone needs a rest it’s him.
I would like to see Son Richarlison Kulusevski as a front three.

The only thing standing against that for me, is that if Leicester hear Kane has been dropped, it's like giving them a tremendous morale boost, just what they need, and we can do without that.

 

[bubble07]

I refuse to beleive if we had traore at RWB we would be any worse

 

[spurmin]

The only thing standing against that for me, is that if Leicester hear Kane has been dropped, it's like giving them a tremendous morale boost, just what they need, and we can do without that.

That can work both ways though. They could prepare for Kane playing and dropping deep like other teams have Sussed out.

 

[smokeydyid]

Emerson criticism is deserved to a degree, but the blame mainly lies with Conte. The tactics Conte uses relies on the wing backs to provide most of the creativity, Emerson is not creative enough for RWB. The team does not have the right fluidity at present, we somehow need to rediscover the way we were playing towards latter end of last season. I think Doherty needs to come in ASAP and he also needs to be more wise with substitutions.

 

[wadewill]

To be fair to Emerson he at least looks like he has some balls, he is constantly getting in the positions its just a shame as an attacking player he is absolutely hopeless. He had at least 2 very good chances yesterday, one header and there was one he sort of mesed up a volley a bit in the 6 yard box, although was a hard chance. Then there was the multiple awful crosses or times he just cuts back and plays an easy ball inside, the one time he got a great ball in the forwards were nowhere to be seen (had one on the other side too where Kane was too slow)

After reflection, we had a lot of that game, they were not very good at all. Kane and Son are just woefully out of form, which is now going on long enough its a bit of a concern. Bentancur i thought was actually really progressive until his booking. PEH is just a trier, nothing more.

My biggest concern at the moment is that of all the talk about having a better squad, apart from Richarlison and maybe just about Perisic Conte won't use anyone else. Son, Emerson and Hobjerg need to be "rested" on Saturday for Kulusevski, Doherty and Bissouma. If they arent i'll genuinely start getting a bit worried about Conte's mental state. Son is the worst offender, love the man but he was rancid again last night, he can't seem to do anything at the moment and he has had more than enough chances.

 

[Barrd10]

He is not the Messiah

Or a very naughty boy.

 

[Dannyspur]

Emerson criticism is deserved to a degree, but the blame mainly lies with Conte. The tactics Conte uses relies on the wing backs to provide most of the creativity, Emerson is not creative enough for RWB. The team does not have the right fluidity at present, we somehow need to rediscover the way we were playing towards latter end of last season. I think Doherty needs to come in ASAP and he also needs to be more wise with substitutions.

What substitutions?

 

[bigfrooj]

Conte has a team of trainers that are there to get the players prepared to play at the peak of their powers on match day. Something is going wrong there, they shouldn’t be so lethargic after a weeks rest particularly the younger players.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Jump on the It’s all Emerson’s fault. He wasn’t good but did you watch Harry Kane? He had the touch of an elephant last night and if anyone needs a rest it’s him.
I would like to see Son Richarlison Kulusevski as a front three.

That's a bit of a slur on elephants, here we can see some teamwork far superior to anything Spurs produced last night..

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[smokeydyid]

What substitutions?

That's what i mean, the lack of or the actual choices of subs is shocking. I am more concerned about the lack of subs, considering the fact he praised our squad depth and certain starters are preforming bad consistently.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Conte has a team of trainers that are there to get the players prepared to play at the peak of their powers on match day. Something is going wrong there, they shouldn’t be so lethargic after a weeks rest particularly the younger players.

Maybe Conte’s East German style regime is to blame. Running players into the ground, getting them to play by pre-determined plans with the fear of deviating from it. At the moment the football is joyless to watch and it looks like it’s joyless for the players.

OK I know you are all in love with Conte but I remain unconvinced he is the future of anything. Just hope he wins a pot, the Rumbelows Cup or something, so people are happy and Conte can go somewhere else

 

[Spurslove]

I’ve woken up pissed off, lets be honest Sporting are pretty pony, some decent counters but there is no way we should be losing that game 2-0, the first English team to lose to them in the CL says it all.

I want to see changes on Saturday.

YES. For weeks now, apart from literally one or maybe two exceptions, we've looked tired and sluggish despite getting good results and this can only go on up to a point, and then when you start to play the top teams, you get found out. Badly.

I have to say, if we don't see some radical changes in our line-up Saturday, I'm going to start having some serious doubts about Conte's decisions.

This summer we made seven upgrades to our squad and got rid of all the so-called 'deadwood' and we're delivering tired and sluggish performances. I'm hearing people say Spence wasn't one of his nominated players so he won't play him. I really do hope that's bollocks.
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[Spurslove]

Need a result against Leceister as fearing arse away. The lack of the ball we will have will cause carnage on here lol

Looking back on our recent history at the Heamorrhoids DTadiu, we've often gone there confident because we've been playing well, and got beaten. This time, we're playing poorly and they're full of confidence...football is weird so you never know.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

the midfield the lack of creativity is the real problem in the side - they were a bog average side with nothing up front and we can't dominate the ball against anyone we are just not set up to do that - kind of fed up with hearing we are dominating sides by camping out in our own penalty area and hitting sides on the break I have to say when you are playing against a side without a forward was there not a case for taking off a centre half and sticking another body in midfield to dominate the game

its how Conte plays but I find it frustrating the two in midfield are effectively stoppers - sides know Kane is going to drop off and try and find a ball in behind teams fill that space - we are a very functional side and bar the 3 up front in any combination there is so little creativity or imagination - it works to a degree and Conte wants to play like it and whenever we lose its going to be frustrating because the style of football is so mundane and when your winning who can argue and lets face it we are winning more often than we are losing but I thought in the summer we should have gone all out and found a midfield player who could come in off the wing and offer some cleverness and make a 3 in midfield when we need and help to dominate the ball - so far this season I think that is a problem but heh still unbeaten in the league so its maybe its not as much as I think it is or might become

 

[Mark_147]

You can't tell me you'd prefer to see Emerson continue there. It HAS to be either Spence or Doherty against Leicester, surely to God.

It's not a case of what you prefer it's Conte saying Spence is for the future and Doherty not being fully fit hence why Emerson has played every game.

 

[Albertbarich]

I'm worried.

The team has lacked energy all season and Conte seems hugely reluctant to play many of the new signings for more than short cameos.

Hopefully it's all part of the process but last night's result has been coming.

 

[Dannyspur]

Before the match we had Conte going on about making the difficult decisions, picking and resting players to get the winning mentality and how sometime difficult choices have to be made. He has banged on about squad depth and rotation and fixture pressures with two games a week, then he plays the same 11 for pretty much the whole game every week and doesn't even use the subs that he has available.
That is a recipe for knackered and injured players and enforced changes rather than selected ones.

 

[bigfrooj]

Maybe Conte’s East German style regime is to blame. Running players into the ground, getting them to play by pre-determined plans with the fear of deviating from it. At the moment the football is joyless to watch and it looks like it’s joyless for the players.

OK I know you are all in love with Conte but I remain unconvinced he is the future of anything. Just hope he wins a pot, the Rumbelows Cup or something, so people are happy and Conte can go somewhere else

You're reply seems harsh on Conte but I find myself broadly agreeing with you. The alarm bells are certainly ringing. We need to see something different and soon.

 

[Darth Vega]

the midfield the lack of creativity is the real problem in the side - they were a bog average side with nothing up front and we can't dominate the ball against anyone we are just not set up to do that - kind of fed up with hearing we are dominating sides by camping out in our own penalty area and hitting sides on the break I have to say when you are playing against a side without a forward was there not a case for taking off a centre half and sticking another body in midfield to dominate the game

its how Conte plays but I find it frustrating the two in midfield are effectively stoppers - sides know Kane is going to drop off and try and find a ball in behind teams fill that space - we are a very functional side and bar the 3 up front in any combination there is so little creativity or imagination - it works to a degree and Conte wants to play like it and whenever we lose its going to be frustrating because the style of football is so mundane and when your winning who can argue and lets face it we are winning more often than we are losing but I thought in the summer we should have gone all out and found a midfield player who could come in off the wing and offer some cleverness and make a 3 in midfield when we need and help to dominate the ball - so far this season I think that is a problem but heh still unbeaten in the league so its maybe its not as much as I think it is or might become

There's no creativity in the midfield for sure but Conte's system enables it from elsewhere, the issue here being that the "elsewhere" has mostly sucked so far. Of our five big offensive threats:

• Kane & Son have both been woefully off-form;
• Sessegnon is still hit and miss;
• Perisic has been mostly good;
• Emerson is where attacks go to die;
• Kulusevski and Richarlison have been great but they've not started a game together

In other words, out of all of our attackers the only consistent performers have been Richarlison, Kulusevski and sometimes Perisic, so at best two of the five simultaneously. Once Emerson is replaced by Doherty or Spence and Kane & Son get into gear a lot of these problems will disappear.