Match Threads Everton Vs Spurs

[rossdapep]

It was almost comical to watch the square, slow passes across the back 3, inviting pressure, losing possession in dangerous areas. It was happening every time we had the ball with Lloris or the defence. Every single time.
Now if I were the manager I'd have seen it twice and been screaming at them to cut it out. Then I'd have made subs.

It's almost like they (Dier and Romero in particular) think they can just do what they want. Putting team-mates under pressure with ridiculous, obvious passes to someone facing their own goal!! Surely they're not being coached to play this way?! I lost count of how many times we gave the ball away; any side with half an ounce of quality would've punished us.

I'm sick of it. The second half last night was the final straw; I'm fed up of Dier strolling around acting like Franco Baresi when someone needs to tell him he's Frank Spencer.

De Zerbi will be licking his lips watching that. He'll know exactly what to do Saturday - press high because these clowns think they're good enough to play round it but they can't. And when the ball does go long, Son & Kulusevski and both wing-backs will let you have it back really soon.
Saturday could be the nadir. I really fear a heavy loss and the place will explode.

Mourinho, Santo, Conte, Stellini. The Tottenham way eh Levy?? You're a disgrace and you should move aside and take most of these overpaid, shoulder shrugging, pampered wankers with you.

They pass it around like that cause Conte drilled that into them.

Conte's teams have to invite the opposition onto them first.

Any competent coach would have decided to get a third midfielder on and told them to drop in and help get the team into Everton's half and stay there.

Then again, we haven't been coached ti do that

 

[anydange]

Missed the match yesterday as I’ve stopped giving a shit but it sounds like just another day at the office for Spurs. Club is going south fast and at this point who cares? The board don’t. The players don’t. I certainly don’t at this moment in time. Finishing mid table or below might actually be the wake up call Levy & Co need but we all know it won’t be.

 

[Hakkz]

Watching Spurs now is how I imagine a prostate exam; huge dread before, hate it during and afterwards weird feelings of anger, confusion and some shame

The difference is that after the prostate exam you actually think that it wasn't as bad as you thought, unlike watching this team.

 

[jurgen11]

Agree, I don’t get why they are making such a taking point of a player going down after full hand to the face.
Hundreds of players roll about for a lot less.

Amazing post my friend but the happy clappers are the issue nothing will change until a line in the sand is drawn!! THEY ARE FUCKING LAUGHING AT US SPURS FANS LEVY DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF US!! MY DAUGHTER HAS NEVER BEEN TO THE STADIUM REALLY WANTS TO GO, I PHONED TICKET OFFICE TO SORT A TICKET OUT FOR HER!!! THE RESPONSE WAS NO IM SORRY YOU CANNOT BUY TICKETS UNLESS SHE BECOMES A MEMBER!! MY RESPONSE THANK YOU BUT YOU CAN SHOVE IT!! THATS THE WAY THEY ARE TREATING THE KIDS.. BUT IF YOU DELUDED HAPPY CLAPPERS WANT TO DO THAT YOU CRACK ON!!!

I got told in early rounds of CL that CL was not for kids so no discount

 

[Gilzeanking]

Is it me or does Hugo's positioning look really off in this picture?

Yeh, we get a fair bit of politics in team selection imo . Forster has been a breath of fresh air between the sticks, but we have to ignore the evidence of our eyes and bow down to our world cup winner. Doubt we'll see Forster again this season regardless of hapless Hugo's mistakes.
Sonny plays regardless of form. Reminds me of the endless playing of Dele that cost us dear imo. Plain evidence from the eyes doesn't seem to count with our management...they're so scared of offending senior players.

Anyway tiny plus from this match. Stellini will be fucking FORCED to play Danjuma when he needs an attacking sub. There's no way out for him to exclude our 'club signing'. Conte's shadow strongly in evidence still sadly.

 

[TURKISH69]

I got told in early rounds of CL that CL was not for kids so no discount

And here is a little stat for you happy clappers who are helping ruin our football club, 20 odd years before ENIC bought Spurs We won 3 x FA Cups, 1 x Uefa Cup and 1 x League cup.. In the 22 years ENIC have been there and we are now worth billions we have won one league cup!!! And all the top managers we have had under Enic in that time the most successful manager is JUADE RAMOS let that fucking sink in!!!

 

[jurgen11]

Is it me or does Hugo's positioning look really off in this picture?

he is perfectly placed to watch it sail into the net without having to dive

 

[Hakkz]

I’m waiting for the “we have 10 cup finals left”…cos we are always so great in cup finals

 

[Bobbins]

I'll be honest, i'm still annoyed.

That period of the match post penalty is up there as one of the very worst i've witnessed as a Spurs fan.

Utter cowardice. I’ve never seen anything like it from a professional sports team.

I’m actually very surprised it’s not being talked about more in the media - it was absolutely extraordinary and indicative of massive failings at the club.

 

[Bobbins]

I’m genuinely very worried about the club.

we are so far away from being a good side it’s unreal.

Managerless, DOF might end up in prison, board who are a shambles outside of investments.

Our 2 talismans of the last few years in Kane and son, one is definitely off in the summer and one has completely regressed and should go.

we have another forward out of contract, another forward who can’t stay fit, another forward out on loan who is just not cut out for the prem and the forward we got in on loan doesn’t get any minutes and won’t stay,

We have 1 cm of top quality who has done his acl who will miss part of next season and may not be the same player again, 1 youth prospect who looks a good talent in sarr, skipp looks average but will need to be judged in a 3, the rest are technically limited.

We have 2 out an out wing backs, when we need to move to a back 4, another wing back coming in summer, a fullback who can’t stay fit and is just so average, an old experience fullback who is not top quality.

We have 5 cbs, 1 who is good enough in a back 4, the others should be no where near our squad.

we have a club captain who passed it and a huge part of our issues.

we are genuinely in very bad shape as a club and with how much players cost is this market I just do not see how we can sort out issues. We can’t even rely on youth as we have no one anywhere near good enough coming through.

We are going to need next season;
1 striker, richie as cover
1 LW, Son should go or be back up,
1 RW rotation for Kulu
1 creative 10 if we move to 4 2 3 1 or a creative cm for 4 3 3
At least 2 new CBs who can play in a 2, one needs pace and ability on the ball.
1 actual fullback who is decent, to rotate with Udogie who hopefully adapts.
I really worry about Porro, he is not a fullback and I don’t ni where he’ll fit.

We need to sell so many players as well as Kane who will want out;
Kane,
Moura contract over
Danjuma loan ended
Gil coming back needs selling
Son probably needs moving on,
Sanchez
Tanganga
Perisic
Lloris
Lenglet loan ending
Sessegnon
Regs coming back from loan
Lo celso coming back from loan
Ndombele coming back from loan
Rodon coming back from loan
Winks coming back from loan.

I think we’ll finish about 8th/9th this season. We will be in a very bad state,
The usually line will come out from levy that we have to sell to buy as No Europe.

it is very sad worrying times for the club.

The perfect time for a new project manager to build something with a brand new team.

Will the fans and the board give him the time and patience to do that? Possibly. I feel like the fans would be onside if they could see signs of effort and progress, even if we end up with fewer wins and points than usual.

I’m not sure Levy could stomach the loss of prestige of a mid table finish.

 

[felmani26]

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Mate, read the fucking room!

......Porro, not you @Hakkz

 

[Thenewcat]

He’s not even here and he’s still getting the blame. In the last two games we’ve been 3-1 up and 1-0 up against ten men, do you really believe capitulating in both games is down to the manager?

Are you capable of an argument that isn’t a straw man? I said he wasn’t a hero for firing both barrels while taking none of the responsibility for our season, which lots of people are partially responsible for. For what it’s worth, I think the mentality of this team with a lead is dreadful and yes that’s partially on Conte and his system

 

[Thenewcat]

Nobody is defending Conte from any responsibility. Not one person. I think pretty much every Spurs fan acknowledges that what is happening is a collective issue and you are only interpreting it that way because you think it's the main problem. If any supporter can't see that our problems right now are literally from top to bottom then they need to have a serious rethink about what they are watching.

In no particular order our issues this season are and have been the chairman, the board, the DOF, The manager/coaching team, the players, and a section of the fanbase. At no time have I absolved Conte from any responsibility, but what I have done is chosen to focus my attention on the guy who is ultimately responsible for it all. So it looks like I am only blaming Levy. I'm not. What I witnessed last not wasn't his doing that was ultimately on Stelinni and Mason for their tactics, and for me more so on the players for not putting the required effort in.

I agree with you except the bit in bold and wasn’t suggesting otherwise. I think the issue is the other way round - Joshua (and lots of others) hate levy and/or the players so much they seem to let Conte off the hook. My opening statement was pointing out Conte isn’t a hero for trying to get sacked and blaming everyone else - that doesn’t mean nothing he said was accurate.

Personally I think levy is responsible for the high floor of the club (we weren’t top 6 for over a decade before enic now we expect it) but also the ceiling - we won’t move on until he changes and that doesn’t look likely

 

[Duke of Northumberland]

It would have been nice if the players set out to prove Conte wrong, show they can support each other when the going is tough, and grind out a result in a tough place. Maybe even some more positive attacking play and secure 3rd place.

But no, they won a penalty and then let the 10 relegation zone men come at them and conceded to make it a draw, like at the last relegation zone game that led to his comments.

 

[thehipster]

Excellent assessment, I would add footballing intelligence to your list.

The problem is that the players aren't sure which 'footballing intelligence' they're supposed to display.
They've been provided with 4 different versions of footballing intelligence these past 4 seasons.
The poor guys have a bag of Smarties for a brain right now...and are struggling to pick a colour.

 

[Trent Crimm]

I just think winning isn't important enough as a club. I think there's a really poor mentality running through the place and I think for the new players coming in it's so easy to adopt that mentality.

From the top. It’s slowly got worse and worse and here we are now.

 

[dirtyh]

not sure i agree with the thinking that the players are powerless to change or adapt given they've had 'coaching' drilled into them. They're not mindless robots or at least shouldn't be. I've played decent levels of football and it's in your dna when the team you're playing goes down to 10. you know they'll sit in so you naturally push up onto them and try to tease them out. Regardless, if you're already ahead or go ahead you know the next goal kills the game stone dead. What you never ever ever ever do is sit back and risk the lucky equaliser from a set piece, etc.

what we did last night still burns me as utter fucking stupidity. I don't care how much coaching you have, you just don't fucking do it. doesn't help that hugo and most of the back line can't pass for shit.

 

[anydange]

Nobody is defending Conte from any responsibility. Not one person. I think pretty much every Spurs fan acknowledges that what is happening is a collective issue and you are only interpreting it that way because you think it's the main problem. If any supporter can't see that our problems right now are literally from top to bottom then they need to have a serious rethink about what they are watching.

In no particular order our issues this season are and have been the chairman, the board, the DOF, The manager/coaching team, the players, and a section of the fanbase. At no time have I absolved Conte from any responsibility, but what I have done is chosen to focus my attention on the guy who is ultimately responsible for it all. So it looks like I am only blaming Levy. I'm not. What I witnessed last not wasn't his doing that was ultimately on Stelinni and Mason for their tactics, and for me more so on the players for not putting the required effort in.

Agree with everything you said here apart from blaming fans. How on earth can any of our fans take responsibility for the shower of shit these players and the club serve up each week? Even the most vocal are entitled to voice their opinion and have absolutely no say in the board’s, club’s managers, coaches or players decisions.

 

[Trix]

Agree with everything you said here apart from blaming fans. How on earth can any of our fans take responsibility for the shower of shit these players and the club serve up each week? Even the most vocal are entitled to voice their opinion and have absolutely no say in the board’s, club’s managers, coaches or players decisions.

Booing players names being read out on team sheets, or when they are coming on as subs is ok is it? Helpful is it? Likely to have a positive impact on that player or the team is it?

100% a certain section(which is what I wrote) of our support need to take a long hard look at themselves.

 

[Dannyspur]

I know he is a centre half but how the fuck you let him have that much space to get a shot in. I know it looks like Skipp is diving across but he might as well be a mile away.

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What that picture doesn’t show is Sanchez feeble attempt at a block(he gets out of the way perfectly)