Spurs and VAR

[ajspurs]

The Bournemouth-City game earlier had a bad incident as well that the VAR did nothing about. It's definitely as much about the way they have told to apply VAR as it is the refs themselves.

It's very strange, seems like there's a reluctancy that comes with it. Lamela at City, Silva today against Bournemouth, Kane today, all penalties IMO and not vey difficult ones to spot.

 

[JCRD]

You mean he tried to get his body across the defender as any player would to get himself more time and space to get the shot off?

Good point mate except it was definitely a foul

I keep watching it and if it was given id have been ecstatic but really dont think it was a penalty as you can actually see Kane bundling himself over the guy after the defender went down... arghhhhhhhhhhhhh... Kane just went into and over the defender...

 

[wrd]

I keep watching it and if it was given id have been ecstatic but really dont think it was a penalty as you can actually see Kane bundling himself over the guy after the defender went down... arghhhhhhhhhhhhh... Kane just went into and over the defender...

He didn't bundle himself over really, he got his leg planted across as any top striker does and let Lascelles clatter into him. It's exactly what he's meant to do if there's not an opportunity for a goal. if as a defender you are going to dive in then the striker is obligated to oblige by getting his body inbetween the defender and the ball. It's not comparable to say Vardy who goes looking for contact that isn't there.

 

[Shadydan]

He was never giving us a penalty let's be real, that was his revenge for rhe Burnley match last season.

 

[JCRD]

He didn't bundle himself over really, he got his leg planted across as any top striker does and let Lascelles clatter into him. It's exactly what he's meant to do if there's not an opportunity for a goal. if as a defender you are going to dive in then the striker is obligated to oblige by getting his body inbetween the defender and the ball. It's not comparable to say Vardy who goes looking for contact that isn't there.

Kane usually does that and is great at winning free kicks but just felt this time round it was a bit like someone forcing the contact rather than the defender making the contact or foul. That was just my perspective though, what I do find odd though is that the ref wasnt asked to look at the video again... knowing him i bet he was like no matter what I aint looking at it again because it will make me look like an incompetent twat (which he is anyways)

 

[wrd]

Kane usually does that and is great at winning free kicks but just felt this time round it was a bit like someone forcing the contact rather than the defender making the contact or foul. That was just my perspective though, what I do find odd though is that the ref wasnt asked to look at the video again... knowing him i bet he was like no matter what I aint looking at it again because it will make me look like an incompetent twat (which he is anyways)

Do they even have that in the prem? I haven't seen it once. I think that Lascelles fucked up and Kane tried to act to take advantage quickly which is where the feeling of forced contact comes from but for me it's as simple as what Lascelles did obstructed Kane without getting remotely close to the ball.

 

[worcestersauce]

I stick my neck out, I didn't think the challenge on Son was a penalty, it happened right in front of me and I thought the defender got the ball, I haven't seen it on the tele yet but that's how I saw it, mind you he pissed me off five minutes later when he gave a free kick against us for the same sort of tackle, if he gives it there he should have given the penalty. I honestly couldn't say for certain about the penalty call for the challenge on Kane as it was at the other end but it seemed pretty obvious from where I was.

 

[John48]

I clearly don't know what a Pen is? The guy got no where near the ball, clearly impedes Kane, but it's not a Pen, why??

 

[Phomesy]

Anthony Taylor's

He was never giving us a penalty let's be real, that was his revenge for rhe Burnley match last season.

It's Anthony Taylor in the VAR room who needs to have his license revoked. Dean could always "claim" that Kane had chosen to go over. The video clearly shows he's wiped out buy Lascelles. How Taylor in charge of VAR doesn't over-rule is a scandal really.

 

[philll]

Also, while I'm thinking about it, Joelinton (I just assumed he was called Joe Linton before the match) received treatment just before that drinks break in the second half and then he just came straight back on before play was restarted. Surely he should've waited on the sidelines before being allowed back on by the ref. What difference does it make that it happened just before they stopped for refreshments?

 

[Phomesy]

I stick my neck out, I didn't think the challenge on Son was a penalty, it happened right in front of me and I thought the defender got the ball, I haven't seen it on the tele yet but that's how I saw it, mind you he pissed me off five minutes later when he gave a free kick against us for the same sort of tackle, if he gives it there he should have given the penalty. I honestly couldn't say for certain about the penalty call for the challenge on Kane as it was at the other end but it seemed pretty obvious from where I was.

South Stand as well I presume? And I agree - without video there was no way to tell if the defender got the ball before getting Son. Easy call to make because you can leave it up to VAR.

At least we thought we could leave it up to VAR because the Kane penalty was as clear cut and stone wall as anything you will ever see. I figured that Kane must have sought contact. And he might have a bit but he's absolutely scythed down by Lascelles stumbling. It's just a penalty. No ifs, no buts.

Bad day for the VAR ref - and VAR itself.

 

[JCRD]

Do they even have that in the prem? I haven't seen it once. I think that Lascelles fucked up and Kane tried to act to take advantage quickly which is where the feeling of forced contact comes from but for me it's as simple as what Lascelles did obstructed Kane without getting remotely close to the ball.

Put it this way - the decisions have evened themselves out over the last eight days... gained a point last week and lost a point this week

Lascelle definitely fucked up and was desperate rugby dive

 

[wrd]

Put it this way - the decisions have evened themselves out over the last eight days... gained a point last week and lost a point this week

Lascelle definitely fucked up and was desperate rugby dive

Yeah but with admittedly my spurs hat on, city didnt get a penalty and went 1-0 up anyway and as we proved twice we pegged them back both times so it's not for certain that cost them the game, we on the other hand would have had a chance to level at 77 mins and had a better chance to go on to get all 3 points.

Admittedly though the penalty would have got us out of jail and I'm not sure we deserved to get out today.

 

[Spurrific]

I can’t believe anybody thinks that shouldn’t have been a penalty. It’s not the reason we lost, but it was stonewall.

 

[Trotter]

I bet many where moaning about all 3 pen appeals, Son 1 close and if Dean gives it I doubt it gets overturned but would of been soft in my opinion. the Rose 1 not a penalty he made the contact.

How VAR doesn't overturn the 3rd 1 though I'll never know.

god looking forwards to what @MK Yid will post on this subject

Because VAR will not overturn subjective calls at the moment. I think the Kane one was a penalty, just like the Lamela one on Rodri was last week. However whereas I have not seen any neutrals think the one last week should not have been a penalty, have heard many say they didn't think todays was, so certainly not as clear and obvious as last weeks anyway. Certainly wasn't a stonewall penalty.
Swings and roundabouts. Wouldn't have got them last season, won't get them this season until VAR reduces the bar.

We got what we deserved from the game in all honesty, nothing. We were dreadful, although that decision did go against us in my view.

One point from the 2 games is most we deserve, one week VAR goes for us, the next against.

 

[worcestersauce]

South Stand as well I presume? And I agree - without video there was no way to tell if the defender got the ball before getting Son. Easy call to make because you can leave it up to VAR.

At least we thought we could leave it up to VAR because the Kane penalty was as clear cut and stone wall as anything you will ever see. I figured that Kane must have sought contact. And he might have a bit but he's absolutely scythed down by Lascelles stumbling. It's just a penalty. No ifs, no buts.

Bad day for the VAR ref - and VAR itself.

Yes I am in the South stand which is why I wondered what I had seen so wrong about the Kane one but it seems I didn't.

 

[Phomesy]

Shearer saying no penalty. Unfuckingbelievable what a shower

 

[Japhet]

Shearer saying no penalty. Unfuckingbelievable what a shower

No surprise there then.

 

[g_harry]

Ok being a spurs fan slightly biased. But surely no one with a straight face can say that wasnt a clear penalty. He fucking threw himself in front of Kane.

 

[Phomesy]

No surprise there then.

I just don't know anymore. If that's not a stonewall penalty then what is?