Match Threads Spurs vs Marine AFC - Match Thread - FA Cup Round 3

[carpediem991]

I suspect those wondering why we didn't try to smash a team 7 leagues below us by 10+ goals have never really competed in sport.
It's the same reason as you wouldn't put your 5 year old kid in goal in your back garden and repeatedly smash the ball past him and celebrate tanking him 20-0.

There is a level of respect necessary during these mismatches where you still have to beat them but you don't go out to humiliate them.
This is their cup final, the height of their careers that they will go on to tell their grandchildren about.
You don't try to post a cricket score and ruin what should be the best day of their lives.

We won comfortably 5-0, they walked off with their pride intact so it was a very professional job respectfully done.

Don't think thats much of the reality.

When we had Clarke, Gedson, Devine or White on the pitch, I think they would be all over scoring goals and making the most out of their "once in a season" moment. They just were not able to do it also because the rest of the team dropped their efforts a bit as the job was done. And actually Marine did quite well to keep the defensive structure in the 2nd half. Also we took out every experienced playmaker who could unlock defenses.

Whatever result would have come out it would never have been a humiliation to Marine. Jose even said before the match the biggest compliment would be to score lots of goals to show we took it seriously.

Personally I thought all our young ones did well but there seems to be no one close to be ready to play Premier League matches. No one there right now to burst onto scene and really made a name for himself. Its fine as they just need time and gain experience. I just would have hoped (bar Devines great goal) they would be able to create a bit more against Marine, but as I said, were not really helped by the circumstances.

Again: Result and performance were absolutely alright.

 

[Chris Finch]

But.... but.... Dion Dublin said he saw the looks on the Marine players’ faces at the thought of getting Bale’s shirt.....

That had to be the worst co-commentary ever. Completely understand backing the underdogs but he’s just a massive bell. Needs to concentrate on Homes Under The Hammer solely from now on.

At one point he praised the Marine players for setting up a wall when we had a free kick!
Think they've played football before Dion

 

[DogsOfWar]

I think you're being a bit overly romantic about it there to be honest. That probably plays a small part but it's got far more to do with the fact that there isn't any need to.

We've got long and congested season ahead of us so what would be the point in the players busting a gut to run the score up for the sake of it? Once we had it in the bag we've just gone through the motions to play out the rest of the game. It's just common sense rather than some noble heroic act like you're making it out to be.

My experience of having played significantly inferior opposition (and been on the wrong end of it) in various sports in the early rounds of cups is that there is an awareness of the oppositions limitations and that their is no pride in 'turning the screw' to the extent of destroying them completely.

Your experiences of these situations may be different but in my case players are usually warned not to take the piss during these mis-matches as being significantly better than the opposition means you don't have to rub their noses in it.

In this case did really Bale need to come on, just as Kane did last year against lower league opposition? Of course not, it was a move to allow the players/fans of Marine an opportunity to say they shared a pitch with a CL winning legend from our manager so they could remember their day fondly.

 

[teedee]

Professional performance, good win, got to see a couple of young players get a run out.

Delighted for Devine, what a moment for the young kid and such a well taken goal.

Judging by the last few pages, I'm glad I didn't follow the match in here. If you can't enjoy the magic of the FA Cup and find things in that game and performance to complain about, I'm not really sure why you bother watching our games.

I don't often enjoy cup matches against much lower opposition, but this one was certainly an exception. Our players showed respect to Marine by playing professionally and not taking a win for granted. The Marine players, for their part, played well and can be proud of their performance. Well done to both teams and their managers and the Marine supporters.

 

[Demon Spurs]

I'll take your word for it bud, as I haven't frequented opposition forums since my AOL days. Back then though, I can honestly say that I never saw it to the extent I have seen with our own club.

I’m on an Aussie rules forum for my club down here and the match-day threads are almost identical to those on here, just swap the names around.

It’s Absolutely infuriating to read during a game, but hilarious to read afterwards (if we have a win).

 

[Serpico]

Hadn't realised we pulled the lowest rank team in each competition (semi/3rd round/Europe)...Next!

 

['O Zio]

My experience of having played significantly inferior opposition (and been on the wrong end of it) in various sports in the early rounds of cups is that there is an awareness of the oppositions limitations and that their is no pride in 'turning the screw' to the extent of destroying them completely.

Your experiences of these situations may be different but in my case players are usually warned not to take the piss during these mis-matches as being significantly better than the opposition means you don't have to rub their noses in it.

In this case did really Bale need to come on, just as Kane did last year against lower league opposition? Of course not, it was a move to allow the players/fans of Marine an opportunity to say they shared a pitch with a CL winning legend from our manager so they could remember their day fondly.

Alternatively, Bale was brought on because he's spent the best part of his time with us trying to regain match fitness. Like I say I'm sure the players are aware of the fact that spanking Marine 14-0 would make them look like ****s but I'm skeptical that there was as much thought put into that aspect as you're claiming. It's got far more to do with the fact that there just isn't any need to bother doing that and so, by default, they just didn't bother

 

[hughy]

At one point he praised the Marine players for setting up a wall when we had a free kick!
Think they've played football before Dion

I'm sure he won a competition to co-commentate on the game.

 

[edson]

Record-breaking Spurs teen Alfie Devine tipped to go "all the way" by ex-coach

EXCLUSIVE: Wigan Athletic academy manager Gregor Rioch is positive Devine is destined to become one of the stars of the future

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[ralphs bald spot]

My experience of having played significantly inferior opposition (and been on the wrong end of it) in various sports in the early rounds of cups is that there is an awareness of the oppositions limitations and that their is no pride in 'turning the screw' to the extent of destroying them completely.

Your experiences of these situations may be different but in my case players are usually warned not to take the piss during these mis-matches as being significantly better than the opposition means you don't have to rub their noses in it.

In this case did really Bale need to come on, just as Kane did last year against lower league opposition? Of course not, it was a move to allow the players/fans of Marine an opportunity to say they shared a pitch with a CL winning legend from our manager so they could remember their day fondly.

got to be worth a few pints in the local ' oh yeah I dived full length to save a Bale free kick you know the bloke scored in the Champions League Final played for Tottenham and Real Madrid' bit of poetic licence but he earned it

 

[easley91]

Must be in a minority, but didn't think Gedson was as bad as people are making out. Misplaced a couple of passes, but thought his touch was great on a tough pitch. Looked quick and had urgency, especially early on.

 

[carpediem991]

Must be in a minority, but didn't think Gedson was as bad as people are making out. Misplaced a couple of passes, but thought his touch was great on a tough pitch. Looked quick and had urgency, especially early on.

Nothing wrong with his touch and technique, question is what is that worth when you do all the stuff wrong when it comes close to the opponents box?

 

[easley91]

Nothing wrong with his touch and technique, question is what is that worth when you do all the stuff wrong when it comes close to the opponents box?

Considering he has barely played for 12 months. He's not from this country. Not used to those pitches on a cold English Sunday evening. His confidence must be shot to pieces and the stuff I have seen from fans over night I wouldn't be surprised why. Very harsh on him, who is still a very young lad actually. Let's not forget any personal circumstances behind the scenes as well. Still in a pandemic unable to see his family. Probably weighs on his mind a lot.

The jokes and slagging off from people on podcasts and social media is totally unnecessary

 

[carpediem991]

Considering he has barely played for 12 months. He's not from this country. Not used to those pitches on a cold English Sunday evening. His confidence must be shot to pieces and the stuff I have seen from fans over night I wouldn't be surprised why. Very harsh on him, who is still a very young lad actually. Let's not forget any personal circumstances behind the scenes as well. Still in a pandemic unable to see his family. Probably weighs on his mind a lot.

The jokes and slagging off from people on podcasts and social media is totally unnecessary

I agree that he doesn't deserve to be humiliated or any kind of that, still although money can not buy you confidence or anything, he is making a fortune by kicking a ball around and is not here as a kid but as a squad member that should improve the squad. I think we fans have all rights to voice our opinion about his game. Its not like he showed anything more before the pandemic either. He is (in my eyes) simply not good enough for us unfortunately.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I think we fans have all rights to voice our opinion about his game.

Exactly, but........I think what puts people's backs up is the often over the top, spiteful and vitriolic nature of it. There's no balance or fairness offered, it's just abuse and belittlement. That's not everyone of course, but there are a few on here for whom it's their stock in trade and it's generally those posters who piss people off. Personally I don't like seeing it but what do you do? All we can do is wait for their balls to drop and their voices to break

 

[carpediem991]

Exactly, but........I think what puts people's backs up is the often over the top, spiteful and vitriolic nature of it. There's no balance or fairness offered, it's just abuse and belittlement. That's not everyone of course, but there are a few on here for whom it's their stock in trade and it's generally those posters who piss people off. Personally I don't like seeing it but what do you do? All we can do is wait for their balls to drop and their voices to break

Got that and have to agree. In the same style amuses me that when we lose the abuse and raging is to be found everywhere and is often taken as completely fine (not everything, not by all), but when we win I get the feeling its kind of not allowed to point out stuff that has not really worked.

It is super extreme in the current Jose reign. If we win its a masterclass and every player perfectly played their role, if we lose they should all be dumped and replaced by the next chance, including Jose.

 

[midspur]

Marine fan brings cardboard cut out of Klopp to Spurs game!

A fan attended the FA Cup tie between Marine and Tottenham with a full sized cardboard cutout of Jurgen Klopp. His cut-out was talked about a lot on social media.

www.besoccer.com

Sorry, I was being sarcastic.

 

[bigfrooj]

I think Gedson did ok particularly as the holding midfielder which is plainly not his position, I think Vinicius stopped making good runs in the second half and didn’t see much of the ball and that Dele looked like a thoroughbred racehorse amongst a bunch of also-rans and pitponies. Not popular opinions with many I know. I’ve seen quite a few Spurs XI v non-league opposition over the years and you never learn much about the players but you do get to see youngsters up close for the first time. White is classy but failed to showcase his excellent dead-ball skills, and Devine is a superstar in the making if all goes well. All in all a good exercise in fairly difficult conditions.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Sorry, I was being sarcastic.

My wife thought is was him at first, she commented that he wasn’t socially distanced from the bloke next to him.

 

[GMI]

Squires on form this week....

David Squires on … FA Cup upstarts rubbing shoulders with the football elite

Our cartoonist on the stories of the third round, including young goalscorers, Adele singalongs and watching Spurs over a garden fence

www.theguardian.com