Match Threads Spurs vs Palace - Match Thread

[FibreOpticJesus]

I left around then, and made my train from Vauxhall by seconds.


There's no way I'm risking having to pay an extra 60-70 quid on a taxi for 5 minutes of football.

Understandable for those with long journeys but a lot around me did not. When you have mass migration with 8 minutes to go you miss a lot of the play. Especially when you are forced by the stewards to sit down. Everybody in front of you having to get up like a Mexican wave?

 

[spursfan77]

Can I just say I thought Ben Davies had a really good game. He finally looks to be over that injury he's been carrying this season and back to the form he showed during the last campaign.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Can I just say I thought Ben Davies had a really good game. He finally looks to be over that injury he's been carrying this season and back to the form he showed during the last campaign.

He's always been a very good defender.

 

[rez9000]

Can I just say I thought Ben Davies had a really good game. He finally looks to be over that injury he's been carrying this season and back to the form he showed during the last campaign.

I thought Davies was really good last night. Sissoko was MoM - absolutely BEAST of a performance, but Davies was also proper class last night.

 

[Haddock]

Zaha calling Tripps a "f*cking pussy" was memorable.

 

[dtxspurs]

I'm watching the full match because I missed the 1st half and currently in the 38th min and Eriksen has been absolute class, what the fuck do some of you watch, genuinely embarrassing how you analyse football.

Rose is really good first half as well, seeing lots of the ball and our pressing has been fantastic.

Its like there is a genuine belief that every time he touches a ball he needs to play a ball like he did into Lucas or Son and if it doesn't come off he sucks. The entire defense is literally trying to defend from what Eriksen does in putting balls into the forwards.

 

[DCSPUR]

Good effort by the lads in a pressure game.

Oh and if Wan Bissaka isn't the number one transfer target for the summer I will be surprised - quality player and amazing potential

 

[hughy]

Zaha calling Tripps a "f*cking pussy" was memorable.

Zaha was playing last night?

 

[Phomesy]

I'm watching the full match because I missed the 1st half and currently in the 38th min and Eriksen has been absolute class, what the fuck do some of you watch, genuinely embarrassing how you analyse football.

Rose is really good first half as well, seeing lots of the ball and our pressing has been fantastic.

Thought he was fairly good at the game. Was brilliant on the replay. That final ball to Moura was sublime.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

One of my favourite moments of the game yesterday was when Zaha was running down the left channel, and Sissoko came charging at him, completely outmuscled him and then won the ball.

 

[curlacious]

Danny Rose's reaction to Son's goal is just brilliant.

 

[ajspurs]

Danny Rose's reaction to Son's goal is just brilliant.

Rose's reactions are normally great to us scoring a goal!

That south stand just looks so incredible.

 

[curlacious]

Rose's reactions are normally great to us scoring a goal!

That south stand just looks so incredible.

It's made even better by Schlupp having a strop.

 

[fortworthspur]

Danny Rose's reaction to Son's goal is just brilliant.

pretty much my reaction, too.

 

[slartibartfast]

What was it like getting out of there?
Did you hang around or leave early and what was it like difficulty wise?

I must admit I hardly ever get to a mid week game as I live on coast of Norfolk/Suffolk border and I'm planning on getting there hours before ko and hanging around like a bad smell for hours afterwards. Consequently I havent given much thought to how manic its going to be leaving late in the evening during the week.

Was it a fkin nightmare or bearable?


It finally happened. We're home ha ha haaaa.

 

[H-man]

 

[mattie g]

Danny Rose's reaction to Son's goal is just brilliant.

Good God...from that angle, you can see how absolutely immense the South Stand really is.

Holy hell.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Report on first visit to new stadium:

The stadium itself

Is just as fantastic as everyone says. I was teary-eyed, partly because there were a few times over the past several months when I thought I might never see it, but also because it's home and it's an awe-inducing environment. They've done the impossible thing somehow, the thing we thought they wouldn't be able to do, which is to recreate enough of the look, feel and atmosphere of the old WHL that it immediately feels sort-of-familiar.

The measures to improve crowd intensity work: the proximity to the pitch, the rake of the stands, the prominent roof. It emphatically is not a Wembley/Emirates style bowl and anyone who tells you it is is talking shit.

The acoustics are stunningly good and every bit of the hard work that has gone into this extra design work has been worth it. It's not that it's louder (although I may change my mind next Tuesday). It's that you can hear what everyone is singing/chanting. The concentration on controlling reverberation times means that, when the Park Lane start up, those of us at the far end of the Shelf can stay in time with them.

Food and drink

The concourses look great, but the food and drink arrangements, at least on Level 5, are suffering severe teething problems. First, the queues form so quickly and so densely that it's impossible to wander around the concourse in search of differing food outlets - you just have to take the first one you can get, because the only route around involves going behind the lift/service cores and they rapidly get swarmed and blocked.

So, having arrived at about 6.30, we settled for the burger joint ("Touchline"), because at least I could try the Beavertown Neck Oil. After 25 minutes barging back and forth in the scrum of a queue, when we were three people from the front, they ran out of burgers. No one wanted the chicken or the veggie-burger. Everyone was emerging with beef and they had run out. All they had left was the boneless fried chicken, which was, um, crap. Just as we reached the front of the queue, they ran out of Beavertown - after we'd paid for it. A handful of extra fries made up the price difference between that and Amstel-piss. So we wolfed our flavourless fried chicken and our fizzy mass-market lager and went up to our seats to see the ceremony.

Thus tipped off, we made a run for it at half-time and managed to fight our way past "Touchline" to the smart-looking bar with the [fake] brewery copper piping. Only one of the taps was working on our side and the bottom-up fillers were not evident, so we waited for 12 of the 15 minutes to get to the front of the queue, at which point we were told that ... they had run out of Beavertown. We gave up and went back to our seats.

So the tally for 40 minutes of queuing was one pint of the wrong beer and no time to drink it, no beer at half time and seriously bad chicken and fries, which was not what we wanted.

A lot of work needs to be done here. My partner pointed out that they don't have any of the dividers that marshalled the queues at Wembley. I suspect this is because they would block the concourse, which is an escape route. They need to figure out a way to prevent the queues from completely blocking the whole area, because people can't circulate and choose a vendor - they have to take what is nearest. They need to get the serving pumps working properly. And they need to tweak their supplies so what they are cooking properly matches demand.

Transport

Historically, our route to WHL was simple. We'd get on the 259 bus, which stops 2 minutes from where we live, and chill out for the long, slow ride through the traffic jams, until it decanted us just opposite the old Spurs Shop and ticket office. It wasn't fast, but it was relaxing.

So that's what we did, only to find that now the 259 is diverted up Bruce Grove, that the driver was unable to tell us where it was going and where it would stop next. So we got out and hoofed it. Disappointing, but reasonable - we'll have to find an alternative approach.

But the problem is that no one at all at THFC or TfL is able to communicate where the diverted buses go and where they rejoin their proper route, so (a) we couldn't just stay on the bus and then walk down from the north when it finally stopped and (b) we have absolutely no idea where to pick up our bus home after the match.

I'm going to re-adopt my guise as the thread's unofficial planning wonk for a moment: I've read the transport plan that accompanied the club's planning application. It is full of statements that confirm their reliance on the [Livingstone-improved] local bus network to move a substantial minority in and out of the neighbourhood. That's absolutely impossible (a) if they divert all the buses miles away from the stadium and (b) if they provide zero information about where they go, where they rejoin their usual routes and how far you have to walk to get one.

It's not as if all the bus routes are diverted. Several local/shopping routes, such as 476 and 318, rejoin the High Rd at Lordship Lane and run down to Seven Sisters from there. Why not the rest?

We hoofed it down the High Rd, along with hundreds of other potential bus-users who were mystified and frustrated. People would pause at a bus stop for a few minutes, realise that nothing was coming, and then wander on. One or two buses (including a 259) buzzed down the High Rd, stopping for no one and not taking on passengers. The drivers had been instructed not to stop, but no one told them why.

Another factor was that there were two or three cordons of police, kettling groups of Crystal Palace fans down the High Rd at walking pace, blocking all traffic and refusing to let buses pass.

Anyway ... we hopped a 318 down to Seven Sisters, took one look at the crawling monster-queue for the Victoria Line that would have taken us 30-40 minutes, minimum, to get us onto a train, walked a short way down Seven Sisters Rd and managed to grab the 259 that had refused to stop for us in Bruce Grove (!). It had been stuck behind the coppers and the Palace fans.

It took us 2 hours from the final whistle to get back to Camden/Holloway. Usually it would be an hour, or a bit more, from WHL. Plainly, it's going to be a learning curve. The queues at Seven Sisters station don't look sustainable. The buses are impossible to catch. They have to provide us with access to the buses if they want us to use them.

I'm going to be contacting THFC and TfL before Tuesday, to ask whether they can tell us where those diversions go and where they rejoin their prescribed routes.

 

[mickdale]

Report on first visit to new stadium:

The stadium itself

Is just as fantastic as everyone says. I was teary-eyed, partly because there were a few times over the past several months when I thought I might never see it, but also because it's home and it's an awe-inducing environment. They've done the impossible thing somehow, the thing we thought they wouldn't be able to do, which is to recreate enough of the look, feel and atmosphere of the old WHL that it immediately feels sort-of-familiar.

The measures to improve crowd intensity work: the proximity to the pitch, the rake of the stands, the prominent roof. It emphatically is not a Wembley/Emirates style bowl and anyone who tells you it is is talking shit.

The acoustics are stunningly good and every bit of the hard work that has gone into this extra design work has been worth it. It's not that it's louder (although I may change my mind next Tuesday). It's that you can hear what everyone is singing/chanting. The concentration on controlling reverberation times means that, when the Park Lane start up, those of us at the far end of the Shelf can stay in time with them.

Food and drink

The concourses look great, but the food and drink arrangements, at least on Level 5, are suffering severe teething problems. First, the queues form so quickly and so densely that it's impossible to wander around the concourse in search of differing food outlets - you just have to take the first one you can get, because the only route around involves going behind the lift/service cores and they rapidly get swarmed and blocked.

So, having arrived at about 6.30, we settled for the burger joint ("Touchline"), because at least I could try the Beavertown Neck Oil. After 25 minutes barging back and forth in the scrum of a queue, when we were three people from the front, they ran out of burgers. No one wanted the chicken or the veggie-burger. Everyone was emerging with beef and they had run out. All they had left was the boneless fried chicken, which was, um, crap. Just as we reached the front of the queue, they ran out of Beavertown - after we'd paid for it. A handful of extra fries made up the price difference between that and Amstel-piss. So we wolfed our flavourless fried chicken and our fizzy mass-market lager and went up to our seats to see the ceremony.

Thus tipped off, we made a run for it at half-time and managed to fight our way past "Touchline" to the smart-looking bar with the [fake] brewery copper piping. Only one of the taps was working on our side and the bottom-up fillers were not evident, so we waited for 12 of the 15 minutes to get to the front of the queue, at which point we were told that ... they had run out of Beavertown. We gave up and went back to our seats.

So the tally for 40 minutes of queuing was one pint of the wrong beer and no time to drink it, no beer at half time and seriously bad chicken and fries, which was not what we wanted.

A lot of work needs to be done here. My partner pointed out that they don't have any of the dividers that marshalled the queues at Wembley. I suspect this is because they would block the concourse, which is an escape route. They need to figure out a way to prevent the queues from completely blocking the whole area, because people can't circulate and choose a vendor - they have to take what is nearest. They need to get the serving pumps working properly. And they need to tweak their supplies so what they are cooking properly matches demand.

Transport

Historically, our route to WHL was simple. We'd get on the 259 bus, which stops 2 minutes from where we live, and chill out for the long, slow ride through the traffic jams, until it decanted us just opposite the old Spurs Shop and ticket office. It wasn't fast, but it was relaxing.

So that's what we did, only to find that now the 259 is diverted up Bruce Grove, that the driver was unable to tell us where it was going and where it would stop next. So we got out and hoofed it. Disappointing, but reasonable - we'll have to find an alternative approach.

But the problem is that no one at all at THFC or TfL is able to communicate where the diverted buses go and where they rejoin their proper route, so (a) we couldn't just stay on the bus and then walk down from the north when it finally stopped and (b) we have absolutely no idea where to pick up our bus home after the match.

I'm going to re-adopt my guise as the thread's unofficial planning wonk for a moment: I've read the transport plan that accompanied the club's planning application. It is full of statements that confirm their reliance on the [Livingstone-improved] local bus network to move a substantial minority in and out of the neighbourhood. That's absolutely impossible (a) if they divert all the buses miles away from the stadium and (b) if they provide zero information about where they go, where they rejoin their usual routes and how far you have to walk to get one.

It's not as if all the bus routes are diverted. Several local/shopping routes, such as 476 and 318, rejoin the High Rd at Lordship Lane and run down to Seven Sisters from there. Why not the rest?

We hoofed it down the High Rd, along with hundreds of other potential bus-users who were mystified and frustrated. People would pause at a bus stop for a few minutes, realise that nothing was coming, and then wander on. One or two buses (including a 259) buzzed down the High Rd, stopping for no one and not taking on passengers. The drivers had been instructed not to stop, but no one told them why.

Another factor was that there were two or three cordons of police, kettling groups of Crystal Palace fans down the High Rd at walking pace, blocking all traffic and refusing to let buses pass.

Anyway ... we hopped a 318 down to Seven Sisters, took one look at the crawling monster-queue for the Victoria Line that would have taken us 30-40 minutes, minimum, to get us onto a train, walked a short way down Seven Sisters Rd and managed to grab the 259 that had refused to stop for us in Bruce Grove (!). It had been stuck behind the coppers and the Palace fans.

It took us 2 hours from the final whistle to get back to Camden/Holloway. Usually it would be an hour, or a bit more, from WHL. Plainly, it's going to be a learning curve. The queues at Seven Sisters station don't look sustainable. The buses are impossible to catch. They have to provide us with access to the buses if they want us to use them.

I'm going to be contacting THFC and TfL before Tuesday, to ask whether they can tell us where those diversions go and where they rejoin their prescribed routes.

did both test events and last night
would have sold my soul for a 259 but nothing.
Should be a queue of them to take people to seven sisters and Finsbury park (and trains north)

 

[N17-77]

I haven't seen the match thread during the game so you may be reacting to over the top negativeness but I don't remember him being "absolute class" he missed a couple of chances with poor finishes and slipped at the crucial moment when dele played the 2nd ball over the top. I really wanted him to whip a ball in himself as he was getting into positions for the cross but kept passing to Trippier. I don't remember him opening the palace team up too much. Maybe once for Son where Son overplayed. I thought he was significantly better after his assist.

Edit: I'm going to edit because I know people will read me saying I don't remember him being absolute class and assume that means I'm calling him dogshit because people seem to only see opinions meaning one or the other. For me Absolute Class is 8-9/10

He made mistakes. Far from terrible but disappointing by his standards. One cross towards him he left for a non existent player behind him. One aerial ball he didn't even challenge for. A couple of misplaced passes. He didn't have his usual hustling style when out of possession