Spurs Youth Thread 23/24

[RickyVilla]

Devine listed as assisting for Port Vale, only got text commentary though so it might be a Tom Carroll to Bale assist or it might be great

He got MOTM on the football app I use.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

would be good to see donley on the bench in the not too distant future,and get some minutes here and there. can cover both th maddison and son/richy positions + the kid looks class

Just don't see how it's not a win all round. Could have done it with Devine too. Desperate for us to make clear pathways for these top talents

And that is the double win.
1. He may just step up and take his chance, opportunity being the mother of invention as the saying goes.
2. Whether he does, or doesn’t (yet) fact we may just place faith in some youngsters will send a brilliant message to others we may be thinking of approaching to join. If they see a clear pathway, to a team playing bold football, with amazing facilities, it may just gives us an edge.

 

[hero]

 

[Westmorlandspur]

At 19 Harry was Millwall’s young player of the season in the Championship and Sherwood was saying that he had nothing left to prove at that level and needed to be tested in the Premiership. Maybe not a starter at that point but ready to be integrated into the first team squad and to begin getting playing time.

He played midfield for Millwall I believe. I remember him playing in a Europa game against Hearts I believe. Looked weak and nowhere near the level required. Poch said that in his first season Kane started pre season at 18% bodyfat. Most pros are 10% or less. Shows he needed someone to get on his back. Poch was that man.

 

[eddiebailey]

He played midfield for Millwall I believe. I remember him playing in a Europa game against Hearts I believe. Looked weak and nowhere near the level required. Poch said that in his first season Kane started pre season at 18% bodyfat. Most pros are 10% or less. Shows he needed someone to get on his back. Poch was that man.

At that stage in his career Kane usually played as an advanced number ten rather than a centre forward. The odd thing was we also loaned them Mason who at that stage in his career played much the same role, and because of Kane’s excellent form hardly got a look in. Anyways they seem to have bonded.

All I really remember about his debut against Hearts is his penalty miss! But he played a lot in the Europa that season before the Millwall loan.

The weight issue was reporting back for preseason after the Sherwood interregnum, when I thought he put in some highly promising performances. Maybe he let go afterwards. Harry is someone who continually needs to watch his weight. Apparently Conte had to talk to him about it.

 

[ButchCassidy]

He got MOTM on the football app I use.

 

[Tyler24durden]

The culture has been changing for 2-3 years now, but we are only really seeing the fruits of this as the younger ones push up through the age groups. It's far more than the Ange(although I'm sure that plays it's part) feel good factor over Conte. FP changed so much behind the scenes as far as recruitment, coaching and retaining our better players that often used to choose to go elsewhere at the first opportunity. I know I keep banging on about how much he has done in this regard but I do believe if it is built upon rather than overhauled to fit the incoming DOF's way of doing things it will have a much bigger impact than the first team signings he's been responsible for.

I'm genuinely gutted Gabbanini has gone, and will also be if FP moves out of the picture completely because what they've done behind the scenes is very impressive and was pushing us very hard in the right direction.

Seems bizarre to get in a new dof, who is untested and to change from something that is clearly working rather than promote gabbanini and keep paratici.

I’m truly shocked that we are risking all the good work in both the youth system and senior teams recruitment and retention for an unknown quantity.

seems madness and reverting to type sadly.

 

[Trix]

Seems bizarre to get in a new dof (un and change something that is clearly working rather than promote gabbanini and keep paratici.

I’m truly shocked that we are risking all the good work in both the youth system and senior teams recruitment and retention for an unknown quantity.

seems madness and reverting to type sadly.

I'm not saying they will. Hopefully they see it working and just build on on it.

 

[eddiebailey]

iirc Bowden, Paskotsi and Mathurin suffered injuries/health issues so missed most part of last season

Paskotsi certainly, and yes Bowden were among those missing a big chunk of last season. Mathurin had had a terrible injury the previous season but was mostly available for selection. I was disappointed not to see more of him, but get that Mundle and Santiago were maybe seen as the better prospects.

But I just don’t buy that the sea change in performance at U21 is all about improved recruitment. Most of those who have featured this season were also available at least some of the time last season, and those who are no longer available, such as White, Mundle and Devine weren’t dragging us down.

One purely footballing factor that maybe didn’t help us the last couple of seasons was that in the absence of Parrott, Scarlett and Etete we lacked a focal point in attack. A lot of the time we were using a false nine. Lankshear and Soonsup-Bell were maybe brought into address that deficiency but promptly got injured, while I thought Donley at that age struggled to make the step up in that position. For me at least he has been a revelation playing as a 10.

 

[rabbikeane]

He apparently signed for their U21 team, but Fagan-Walcott is on the bench for Cardiff tonight, league cup away to Blackburn. Kion Etete starting.

 

[Mandy Dingle]

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Kion Etete's goal tonight.

 

[kmk]

 

[eddiebailey]

He apparently signed for their U21 team, but Fagan-Walcott is on the bench for Cardiff tonight, league cup away to Blackburn. Kion Etete starting.

Markanday on the score sheet for Blackburn and Bloxham on the bench. It’s quite the Spurs reunion.

 

[nferno]

Anyone who watch this guy regularly reckon he’s a genuine generational talent? Or is that clip flattering?

 

[HodisGawd]

Oh god, Marcus Edwards here we go again!

But still, wow.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I think a lot of the top teams have players like these. It’s just the next 5 years are the problem
Arsenal had a 13yr old in their under 18 squad the other day.
Remember Karamoko Dembele. Played for Celtic under 21 at 13yrs. He is 20 now. Currently at Blackpool on loan from Brest.
This tick tok crap does these lads no good at all.
Josh Onomah who we fought hard to keep as a youth, does not even have a club at the moment. Will be about 25 now.

 

[Tyler24durden]

Anyone who watch this guy regularly reckon he’s a genuine generational talent? Or is that clip flattering?

The clip shows him as very talented/skilful however it doesn’t flatter him in regards to releasing the ball at the right time, choosing the right pass imho.

Certainly looks a promising youngster but talk of generational talent is a bit irrational, imho, as he needs to develop much more from what that clip shows.

exciting we have youngsters like this coming through though and keen to know if anyone has seen any more of him and can give a fuller picture of his promise.

very easy to get carried away by these clips and focus only on the good bits, hopefully he will work hard and be grounded.

agree with the other poster that these clips can do a great disservice to these youngsters by the fame/notoriety it brings.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Decent draw for Port Vale and Alfie Devine in Carabao Cup. Away to Mansfield . If they get through should get a prem lge club next. See how good he can be against a good side. Could easily be in the first team squad next season the way he is going.

 

[danielneeds]

I think a lot of the top teams have players like these. It’s just the next 5 years are the problem
Arsenal had a 13yr old in their under 18 squad the other day.
Remember Karamoko Dembele. Played for Celtic under 21 at 13yrs. He is 20 now. Currently at Blackpool on loan from Brest.
This tick tok crap does these lads no good at all.
Josh Onomah who we fought hard to keep as a youth, does not even have a club at the moment. Will be about 25 now.

Yeah, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool they've all got kids like this who can dribble and score 40 goals in some of the younger age groups. It's the hard yards from 15-20 that make the difference and the pathway. Only one in 100 makes it.

 

[Aay_Jay_Dee]

Yeah, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool they've all got kids like this who can dribble and score 40 goals in some of the younger age groups. It's the hard yards from 15-20 that make the difference and the pathway. Only one in 100 makes it.

Lure of alcohol is a big factor