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Spurslove

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Damn, missed this yesterday.

Your batting average is not your average amount of runs per innings, but your average amount of runs per wicket.

Crudely speaking, if you have a batting average of 50 and you end one match 25 not out, you could expect to score another 25 in your next match/innings before getting out. Though to be fair, there are so many variables in cricket - location, weather, opposition, state of game, that a batting average is something to look at over the long term rather than series to series (as much as I love a graph!).

Thanks, but the sentence I've highlighted illustrates the point I've been trying to make perfectly.

The on-screen stat graphic when a batsman comes in to bat, is presented simply as:

1) Number of Innings
2) Number of runs
3) Average runs scored

Anyone coming into cricket for the first time would look at that and say 'Hang on a minute, WTF is that all about? That's not the average number of runs he's scored per the number of innings he's played, according to those stats'

But nowhere in the quoted stats does it explain how the average has been calculated.

How is anyone supposed to know, simply by looking at the stats on the screen how many times he's kept his bat, and how many times he's been out? Maybe the on-screen stats graphic should tell us, rather than quote a figure as an average which appears on the face of it to be nothing of the sort.

Surely to God somebody out there understands my point and actually agrees with me!!


I rest my case m'luds.

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Spurs_Bear

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Thanks, but the sentence I've highlighted illustrates the point I've been trying to make perfectly.

The on-screen stat graphic when a batsman comes in to bat, is presented simply as:

1) Number of Innings
2) Number of runs
3) Average runs scored
What you actually said was:
Here's a perfect example of what has been driving me bonkers. I was watching the T20i match between Australia and Sri Lanka (not much else on) and the Aussies were due to bat. Before Ben McAndrew started his innings, his stats came up...

He's played in 20 T20i games and he's scored 235 runs, which is all fine and good. But he's been given an average of 16.79

In nobodys language or understanding is that his average. If he's had 20 games and scored 235 runs, his average is 11.75.
 

Spurs_Bear

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@Spurslove

I may regret asking this, but why on earth do you care? You are not using the right metrics to calculate the answer you want, and without that, if it were me...I would just stop doing it?
 

Archibald&Crooks

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@Spurslove

I may regret asking this, but why on earth do you care? You are not using the right metrics to calculate the answer you want, and without that, if it were me...I would just stop doing it?
I'd have asked this in six months time when, in another moment of abject boredom, he brings it up again, has it explained to him again and doesn't get it. Again.

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Spurslove

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@Spurslove

I may regret asking this, but why on earth do you care? You are not using the right metrics to calculate the answer you want, and without that, if it were me...I would just stop doing it?
Well we agree on that at least. In fact I've only recently decided to stop taking any notice of the quoted 'averages' anyway as they're nothing of the sort. I just thought I'd draw everyone's attention to the inaccuracy, and hope someone would actually see what I was getting at.

Never mind, I'm done now.

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Spurs_Bear

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Half centuries for the top 3 and 45* for Lawrence at 4 in the first day of the warm up. No idea of the standard of the opposition but interesting all the same that they picked Lawrence at 4 and there was no space (in the 12) for Pope.

Would expect that while only a warm up the team for the 1st Test will be out of this 12 and likely a choice between Overton and Leach.

Crawley
Lees
Root
Lawrence
Stokes
Bairstow
Foakes
Woakes
Robinson
Wood
Overton/Leach
 

Timbo Tottenham

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Without making anyone too jealous… has anyone ever been to the party stand at the Kensington Oval..? If so, I have tickets to the first day of the 2nd Test and was wondering if I could pick your brains?
 
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aussiespursguy

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/60504272

Always seemed a decent bloke. Get well soon, Rod!
So sad.
Rod Marsh passed away in Adelaide. Never came out of the coma.
Iconic member of an iconic era for us.
Will never forget a one dayer at Adelaide vs New Zealand when he tore Lance Cairns apart in an over. Not sure what the score was but at least 3 sixes and a 4 or two.
Changed our game with the introduction of the academy.
Did something similar over there.
Max Walker and now Bacchus.
We are starting to lose the icons.
RIP Bacchus
 

Colonel_Klinck

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52! I know he liked to play hard but 52 is no age. As someone who is 51 ands played hard when younger that is sobering.
 
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