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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread: LEVY TELLS ALL - 21st January 2014

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wallyjakeman

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I'm impressed by Bentaleb, and like the fact that we're bringing youth players. But no way am I believing Sherwood when he says he doesn't know enough about Capoue. No way.
Wasn't Tim in the transfer committee? Didn't he watch us play before Capoue got injured?
 

Gedson100

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Why so much love for Capoue?

He looked good to start, got injured, had a mare at centre back then hasn't featured.
Meanwhile, a 19 year old kid has come into the team, repeatedly hit impressive statistical markers and looked a natural. Alongside this, 2 (TWO) Brazilian international central midfielders look on enviously as they return to full fitness. Not to mention the unique strength and dribbling talents of our Belgian international and the special creative talents of our Danish international, all of whom can play in a CM position.

We are absolutely stacked in CM. Capoue is probably a really good player but he also probably surplus to requirements.
That isn't Sherwood playing God, it's a basic rumination on the (large) squad.
And after all that he'll probably stay cos the Chairman is a playa.

Fret not people, Capoue or not, we'll be fine.
 
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wallyjakeman

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Why so much love for Capoue?
He looked good to start, got injured, had a mare at centre back then hasn't featured.
Meanwhile, a 19 year old kid has come into the team, repeatedly hit impressive statistical markers and looked a natural. Alongside this 2 (TWO) Brazilian international central midfielders look on enviously as they return to full fitness. Not to mention the unique strength and dribbling talents of our Belgian international and the special creative talents of our Danish international, all of whom can play in a CM position.

We are absolutely stacked in CM. Capoue is probably a really good player but he also probably surplus to requirements.
That isn't Sherwood playing God, it's a basic rumination on the (large) squad.
And after all that he'll probably stay cos the Chairman is a playa.

Fret not people, Capoue or not, we'll be fine.

For me it's more about us selling a player six months after we bought him. He deserves a better chance than that. Sure, we have a new manager, but I thought one of the points with Baldini was to avoid squad overhauls if we changed manager?

I agree with you about the overload of midfielders though. I like the depth of our squad, but it's hard to keep everyone happy now with only two competitions left.
 

Lilbaz

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For me it's more about us selling a player six months after we bought him. He deserves a better chance than that. Sure, we have a new manager, but I thought one of the points with Baldini was to avoid squad overhauls if we changed manager?

I agree with you about the overload of midfielders though. I like the depth of our squad, but it's hard to keep everyone happy now with only two competitions left.

Think he may have kicked up a bit of a fuss behind the scenes. But that is speculation.
 

Gedson100

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For me it's more about us selling a player six months after we bought him. He deserves a better chance than that. Sure, we have a new manager, but I thought one of the points with Baldini was to avoid squad overhauls if we changed manager?

I agree with you about the overload of midfielders though. I like the depth of our squad, but it's hard to keep everyone happy now with only two competitions left.

I take your point there, but I think there must be more to it. The World Cup looms large, he probably wants to go. I'd not be surprised if his potential departure was as much engineered by him/his agent, as it is us.
 

spurs9

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I'm impressed by Bentaleb, and like the fact that we're bringing youth players. But no way am I believing Sherwood when he says he doesn't know enough about Capoue. No way.
Wasn't Tim in the transfer committee? Didn't he watch us play before Capoue got injured?
I agree. The excuse people use saying AVB banned TS from training, so he doesn't know anything about Capoue is BS. I know enough about Capoue to know how good he is and I have never been to a Spurs training session.

If TS is trying to get rid it must be because of a falling out with him or attitude problem etc.
 

wallyjakeman

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I take your point there, but I think there must be more to it. The World Cup looms large, he probably wants to go. I'd not be surprised if his potential departure was as much engineered by him/his agent, as it is us.

Yeah, I think your right. Would be nice to hear some ITK about the reasoning behind it if he is sold.
Is Capoue established as a regular in the national team?
 

JayB

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Why so much love for Capoue?

He looked good to start, got injured, had a mare at centre back then hasn't featured.
Meanwhile, a 19 year old kid has come into the team, repeatedly hit impressive statistical markers and looked a natural. Alongside this, 2 (TWO) Brazilian international central midfielders look on enviously as they return to full fitness. Not to mention the unique strength and dribbling talents of our Belgian international and the special creative talents of our Danish international, all of whom can play in a CM position.

We are absolutely stacked in CM. Capoue is probably a really good player but he also probably surplus to requirements.
That isn't Sherwood playing God, it's a basic rumination on the (large) squad.
And after all that he'll probably stay cos the Chairman is a playa.

Fret not people, Capoue or not, we'll be fine.
We may be stacked at CM but we are not stacked at DM. Our fixtures in March against Chelsea, Arse, Soton, and Liverpool will likely determine our fate this season and IMO we need to line up with a DM in at least three of those matches. Given his history we cannot count on Sandro to be available for all of those matches, meaning that Capoue is not surplus to requirements. If anyone is, it'd be Siggy and Holtby.

Additionally, I think a major part of the reason that there has been such fervent opposition to selling Capoue is simply that many of us rate him quite highly and feel that there's no way we should be getting shot of him with our long-term managerial situation very much up in the air. Tim may not have him in his plans this season but whoever is the boss come July might come to a different conclusion, so why sell now?
 

thinktank

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We may be stacked at CM but we are not stacked at DM. Our fixtures in March against Chelsea, Arse, Soton, and Liverpool will likely determine our fate this season and IMO we need to line up with a DM in at least three of those matches. Given his history we cannot count on Sandro to be available for all of those matches, meaning that Capoue is not surplus to requirements. If anyone is, it'd be Siggy and Holtby.

Additionally, I think a major part of the reason that there has been such fervent opposition to selling Capoue is simply that many of us rate him quite highly and feel that there's no way we should be getting shot of him with our long-term managerial situation very much up in the air. Tim may not have him in his plans this season but whoever is the boss come July might come to a different conclusion, so why sell now?
If people can't see it then they can't see it.

It's perfectly rational to keep him; selling him is totally irrational.

Selling him because you 'don't know him', yet not playing him to 'get to know him' to see what he possesses is irrational.

March madness will sort out the men from the boys and we are in a weaker position without him than with him. I really don't understand why people are struggling with this.

Maybe they don't appreciate the importance of DMs (that we all cried out for for so so long)? *shurgs*

Anyway, hope the itk picks up soon...or the 1st feb hurries up, one or the other.
 

Mr Pink

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Why so much love for Capoue?

He looked good to start, got injured, had a mare at centre back then hasn't featured.
Meanwhile, a 19 year old kid has come into the team, repeatedly hit impressive statistical markers and looked a natural. Alongside this, 2 (TWO) Brazilian international central midfielders look on enviously as they return to full fitness. Not to mention the unique strength and dribbling talents of our Belgian international and the special creative talents of our Danish international, all of whom can play in a CM position.

We are absolutely stacked in CM. Capoue is probably a really good player but he also probably surplus to requirements.
That isn't Sherwood playing God, it's a basic rumination on the (large) squad.
And after all that he'll probably stay cos the Chairman is a playa.

Fret not people, Capoue or not, we'll be fine.

I agree we're stacked, but playing devils advocate for a minute...why are we contemplating recalling Carroll then? Wouldn't get the logic with that - if it happens.

I'm loving the look of Bentaleb and he deserves to be starting given his performances. I just don't understand the 'apparent' rationale behind the Capoue situation.

Oh well, I'm more than happy with the way things are going. I guess things will become even more clear when Sandro is ready to start, and if indeed he does start when the time is right.
 

ASpurDownUnder

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We're winning games with Sherwood's selections
We're winning games with Sandro & Paulinho & Verts still to return
We're over resourced in CM
Selling Capoue, recouping cash and using the funds to strengthen other areas (up front & LB)

What is possibly wrong with any of this?

All this moaning is CRAZY!
 
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