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The Luis Suarez Saga: It's official. He's gone.

Donki

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Let me ask all you guys a simple question:

What would you rather, a player dive in recklessly (like Charlie Adam does frequently for example) on Eriksen or bite him on the shoulder ?

No one is saying that recklessly diving in shouldn't go unpunished but come on BC for one sportsman to continually bite opponents is a little strange. He's a grown man not a baby.
 

Gb160

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an idiot on rawk said:
my 2p worth:

If i bite anything, it means I need to close my lower jaw so my upper and lower teeth--bite.

Going in open mouthed means little unless there is action from the lower jaw.

If Suarez wanted to bite, like with Ivanovic, he'd have done just that. Not then try to headbutt the player.

If Chiellini was "bit" he would have teeth marks from the lower and upper mouth. Just like Ivanovic did.

If people want to claim Luis went in open mouth and crashed his head down to leave a mark with just his uppers...then show the full set of teeth marks, with the curvature of the upper teeth, as Luis does not have one protruding tooth. If a mark was left, it would be by multiple teeth and easily visible. Also there should be some abrasion from the lower teeth where those contacted the player if it was that hard of a blow to leave teeth marks from the uppers.

This is my logic..fwiw.

To me, as I said originally, it was a poorly timed headbutt.
The levels they'll sink to in defense of Groundhog is just stunning.
 

Bus-Conductor

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No one is saying that recklessly diving in shouldn't go unpunished but come on BC for one sportsman to continually bite opponents is a little strange. He's a grown man not a baby.

And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".
 

talkshowhost86

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And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".

The point is that it's not always possible to show that those things are deliberate. Whatever you say, reckless tackles and careless elbows are part of the game. They are something that can be reckless rather than malicious, accidental rather than deliberate. Yes if it can be shown that they were done deliberately then the punishment should be more serious, but that simply isn't comparable to biting.

The latter is not part of the game. It's as much part of the game as hitting someone with a bit of lead piping during a match. There is no legitimate way of biting someone. It is only a vicious act and as such should be punished more severely than many other fouls/misdemeanours.
 

thinktank

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Don't know if anyone has posted this but the independent picked up on a pic of Suarez and Chiellini at the confederations cup last summer, did he try unsuccessfully to get him before?

Suarez-Chiellini-2013.jpg

He just can't resist a chomp can he.
 

Lufti

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And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".

As always BC, it's a pleasure
 

E17yid

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And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".

What do you think his punishment should be? Considering this is his 3rd biting incident
 

THFCSPURS19

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The point is that it's not always possible to show that those things are deliberate. Whatever you say, reckless tackles and careless elbows are part of the game. They are something that can be reckless rather than malicious, accidental rather than deliberate. Yes if it can be shown that they were done deliberately then the punishment should be more serious, but that simply isn't comparable to biting.

The latter is not part of the game. It's as much part of the game as hitting someone with a bit of lead piping during a match. There is no legitimate way of biting someone. It is only a vicious act and as such should be punished more severely than many other fouls/misdemeanours.
Don't bother trying to talk sense. He won't listen.
 

beats1

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And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".
But the thing is, you are saying if you are not as good as ledley you shouldn't be going for 50/50 tackles?

Reckless tackles are not always intentional and are often the cause of fatigue in a match(i.e. too tired to think straight or to make the tackle)
 

hodsgod

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After getting a ten match ban for biting Ivanovic, the next ban must be half a season, 19 games. Make it 20 to keep it round numbers. The next time make it a season.
 

Alchemist

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The point is that it's not always possible to show that those things are deliberate. Whatever you say, reckless tackles and careless elbows are part of the game. They are something that can be reckless rather than malicious, accidental rather than deliberate. Yes if it can be shown that they were done deliberately then the punishment should be more serious, but that simply isn't comparable to biting.

The latter is not part of the game. It's as much part of the game as hitting someone with a bit of lead piping during a match. There is no legitimate way of biting someone. It is only a vicious act and as such should be punished more severely than many other fouls/misdemeanours.

Do you think Roy Keane's tackle on Alfe Inge Haaland was on par with Suarez's bite?
 

whitesocks

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What makes it worse is that he did this few days after reopening all the old wounds from 2 seasons ago.
Despite his brilliant season for Liverpool, he is absolutely unrepentant about the biting, racism, assaults and antics from the season before. It is all an English agenda. And so he is destined to repeat the behaviour.

Of course FIFA will not see the bigger picture, and Suarez has not done this kind of thing in international football before,
so I really do not expect anything more than a 3 or 4 game ban.
 

yankspurs

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What makes it worse is that he did this few days after reopening all the old wounds from 2 seasons ago.
Despite his brilliant season for Liverpool, he is absolutely unrepentant about the biting, racism, assaults and antics from the season before. It is all an English agenda. And so he is destined to repeat the behaviour.

Of course FIFA will not see the bigger picture, and Suarez has not done this kind of thing in international football before,
so I really do not expect anything more than a 3 or 4 game ban.
Yeah i dont think FIFA will take into account his prior behavior, unfortunately. They'll view it as a one time thing, he'll get off very easy, liverpool fans will gloat, and suarez will bite someone again either this year or next year.
 

allatsea

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And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".


What if Suarez has AIDS ?
 

riggi

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And I'm not saying that biting shouldn't go unpunished, I'm just saying there is a lot of hypocritical and bullshit wailing going on and the punishment should match the crime.

This is no worse in thought or deed, than someone deliberately putting an elbow into someone else's head (frequent and rarely punished and far more likely to cause a serious injury) or a player that goes onto a tackle recklessly.

And all those saying reckless tackles are part of the game I say bollocks, you're idiots if you take that view. I watched Ledley King tackle for 15 years and don't remember a single "reckless" tackle.

I'd rather see the type of dirty shit Suarez did in that Youtube get punished heavily than a stupid bite, or other stupid stuff like "raising a hand to someone".


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