The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Coco-1101]

When was our last back to back wins?

Before dinosaurs walked on earth.

 

[Ben1]

When was our last back to back wins?

Every other game is an away one...so good luck with that.

 

[Spurger King]

Before dinosaurs walked on earth.

That recently?

 

[Saoirse]

When was our last back to back wins?

April. Tottenham 2-0 Crystal Palace, Tottenham 1-0 Manchester City, Tottenham 4-0 Huddersfield Town.

 

[rossdapep]

April. Tottenham 2-0 Crystal Palace, Tottenham 1-0 Manchester City, Tottenham 4-0 Huddersfield Town.

Thanks! At least someone can be helpful.

So that coincides with our move into the new stadium. Other than that we've largely been all over the place.

I honestly can't see why sticking with Poch would give us a change in form. He's likely gunna need 6 months for players to bed in before the summer. Then new players come in next summer and again we'll have months of bedding in.

Whereas another coach may come in, get most back on side, get confidence up and only require 2 or 3 signings.

Do we really need this uneccesary rebuild?

 

[NovTHFC]

We’ve lost our identity. Poch is too stubborn to change, and the persistence with Eriksen is bamboozling. Every Spurs fan can see he doesn’t want to be there yet Poch persists.

Players also taking far too long to be integrated. Players will only become match fit by actually playing minutes, and by minutes I mean more than 5 minute cameos when the game is beyond reach.

As people have said, how much time does he get? I’m hugely appreciative of what Poch has done, transformed us over the past 5 years, however, I feel that this race is run.

Levy has a choice to make, roll the dice and part ways and try and rescue the league this season. New ideas, new formation, and a hunger for places can hopefully kick us into form. We have the players to do so. Or stick with Poch, back him in Jan and back him in Summer 2020. By which time we won’t be in the champions league places and the long and slow rebuild continues. GLC will probably get his first league start then providing he hasn’t returned to Betis.

 

[nasescoba1985]

Would of never said this last year, but I really hope Bayern coming in for Poch. Would be great for all parties because he could leave on relatively good terms leaving behind a legacy and we wouldn’t get burned with a pay out. We could finally move on and get a serial winner in charge like Allegri or Mourinho. The Poch era has gone completely stale, it’s time to move him on and freshen things up.

 

[thecook]

Would of never said this last year, but I really hope Bayern coming in for Poch. Would be great for all parties because he could leave on relatively good terms leaving behind a legacy and we wouldn’t get burned with a pay out. We could finally move on and get a serial winner in charge like Allegri or Mourinho. The Poch era has gone completely stale, it’s time to move him on and freshen things up.

Whilst I definitely agree, if I were Bayern I'd go for the serial winner like Allegri or Mourinho though

 

[Primativ]

We look an atrociously coached side. That has nothing to do with any signings or lack of. Anyone using that as an excuse is deflecting.

Poch should be getting far more out of a very talented group of players.

 

[wattothfc]

Right... when do we pull the trigger on Poch? Continually starting Eriksen is an insult to the other players and fans. We are sleepwalking into obscurity.

 

[yankspurs]

Pull. The. Trigger. It is absolutely fucking absurd we haven’t yet. We have been in relegation form in the league in 2019 and we are dawdling in the lower mid table at the moment with no signs of climbing back up. Thanks for all he’s done to build this club up but either sacked tonight or sacked in the morning. Time for a fresh perspective and a new voice.

 

[sidford]

Have seen a few comments saying that match going fans are still behind Poch and don't want a change. Are there any of them on here? Would genuinely like to know their reasons, I'm not fishing etc I just want to try and understand their point of view

 

[Lighty64]

Poch took us from perennial Europa team to CL regulars, we have to respect that, but now he’s reached his limit, he can’t take us any further forward. We’re told he gets final say on all incoming transfers, but ultimately rarely signs off an any, meaning our list of transfer targets becomes so limited, we end up struggling.
He seems to have serious trust issues. Lo Celso (even allowing for injury) and Ndombele have not had as many minutes as you’d expect, yet Eriksen continues to get big minutes. Aurier continues to be a ticking bomb, yet Walker-Peters struggles for minutes. Whilst KWP hasn’t set the world on fire this year, in his debut he got MOM, and if memory serves me right he did again later on that season at Leicester (or Hull??). So if he’s now not cutting it, has Poch mismanaged his development based on that early promise. Onomah fell by the wayside. He started ok, but failed to kick on and had a couple of awful loans, but again, was his development mismanaged, were his loans a good match for his skills and the style of play we wanted for him.
The continuation and succession planning for squad has been well and truly botched to get to a point where we could well lose Toby, Jan, Rose and Eriksen, and we have no obvious replacements in place to make the transition seamless. Wanyama seems spent, but we still give him minutes rather than letting Skipp take that chance to develop. Dier has fallen off the radar. Foyth was billed as RB but even after recovering from injury he isn’t getting minutes. Is Parrott going to go the same way as TOB?
On the pitch now, Poch seems unclear on what’s his best system, and changes with such regularity that very little fluidity and understanding is achieved. He moved away from the 4231 and 3421 which worked well for him, and initially persisted with the diamond which just wasn’t working, but now seems to change on a game by game basis. His selections also are head scratching. Worse still is his awful in game decisions (or lack thereof). He seems incapable of making substitutions it’s too late or it’s just plain forced on him. How are players getting up to speed when they sit on the bench for 80+ minutes. His tactical naivety and inability to use the bench is hurting us. He’s a motivator, not a tactician, and worryingly seems unable to motivate this squad.
Allegri and Mourinho are available, such an opportunity that two proven winners are available and currently looking for their next challenge, but this window of opportunity will only be open for so long. We should be making that move now, so whoever comes in has time to assess what they have and make plans for January transfers in and out. The longer we leave Poch in place, the longer this run of awful form continues because we are just not seeing any hints of positivity and change. By which time, we’ll be further and further off the pace for CL, and the managerial candidates pool will be spent.

you say about Allegri who has never managed outside of Italy and only real success was when managing Juventus who could still win the league with a nonexperienced manager because they have the money and backroom admin to buy the best or at the moment picking up free agents.

Mourinho has the experience of winning trophies in this country, but yet again has been backed enough to win them by managing 2 of the richest clubs in our league. 1 that he spent a fortune on at Chelsea, and another the richest club in the country that spends big. in 2-3 seasons without fail goes backwards.

on both managers would they have enough join them as backroom staff? because of 1 of the reasons why Levy might be stalling is it won't be just Poch go, it will be all his backroom staff at the same time. if he is looking for another manager he needs to know they will have a good group behind them and doing it soon he has to take into consideration whether a new manager would get anything different out of the players that want out, or an incoming manager happy to have Aurier, Toby, Jan, Rose and Eriksen. At the moment none of us are, and if anyone looking from the outside can't see that then we might have the wrong person to attempt to save our season, or take us forward. This is my biggest worry to be honest. if those players were on 3-4 year contracts I would change tomorrow and hope.

 

[Yiddo100]

Have seen a few comments saying that match going fans are still behind Poch and don't want a change. Are there any of them on here? Would genuinely like to know their reasons, I'm not fishing etc I just want to try and understand their point of view

Probably because they’re getting behind the team when they need our help, booing the manager at games is not going to help is it

 

[RickyVilla]

Did I really? haha I can't remember that. Did you actually ask to be banned?

You should stay off the Ouzo young man.

 

[Chirpystheman]

Go all out for Simeone? Thoughts?

Reportedly on €40m a year. Never going to happen

 

[Lighty64]

Remember when people didn't want Jose because he plays shit football?

The irony

that's why I don't want him, especially as it means in 3 years time we will be starting to look for another manager

 

[King of Otters]

Pull. The. Trigger. It is absolutely fucking absurd we haven’t yet. We have been in relegation form in the league in 2019 and we are dawdling in the lower mid table at the moment with no signs of climbing back up. Thanks for all he’s done to build this club up but either sacked tonight or sacked in the morning. Time for a fresh perspective and a new voice.

I haven’t followed every page of this thread, but weren’t you ready to die on the ‘Poch In’ hill about a week ago?

 

[King of Otters]

that's why I don't want him, especially as it means in 3 years time we will be starting to look for another manager

Only because he’ll feel he can’t take the club any further after winning consecutive quadruples.

 

[Saoirse]

that's why I don't want him, especially as it means in 3 years time we will be starting to look for another manager

Three years is pretty long for a manager these days. If we can get someone in for three years who gets us back in the Top 4 and wins a couple of trophies, I'm more than content.