The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Shadydan]

I'm sure everyone understands that but the trouble is if he plays 90mins every game then he's increasingly likely to get injured and be out altogether for several weeks. Or even if he didn't get injured, he's clearly going to be tired and so unable to perform to the top of his game.

Why? He doesn't pickup any tears, strains or pulls, in fact he's only picked up a hamstring injury only once which kept him out for a week, it's not as if his body needs resting. Yes he's done ligaments in his ankle a few times but that's come from freakish incidents if anything.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Hope you’re right. I’m one of Poch’s biggest fans. He’s almost single handedly brought respect and gravitas back to our great club. He’s done it on a comparative shoestring.

Since the summer of last year he hasn’t exactly been holding back with his frustration with the owners. He’s been transparent. Whatever may be the real reason, he was seriously pissed off over this summer too. I suspect we are experiencing a major hangover from the complete absence of any investment in the first team squad over 2 windows. Just because we’ve invested a bit this summer, it dragged right to deadline .... again! Poch can’t flick a switch. Yes he can make odd decisions. I can’t recall a manager who hasn’t. Even Pep got slammed in the Champions League home leg against us for not playing certain players.

Any alternative manager option will come up against the same restrictions with Levy. That guy’s style will never change. I simply don’t want to go back to the utter garbage of the pre-Poch day’s.

So I 100% back him. If any player shows the slightest resistance to what Poch wants to do they can bugger off.

I slightly disagree that Poch single handily move the club to the next level on a shoestring. There were a lot players that helped push the club forward who were already here before he arrived. Lloris, Rose, Walker, Vertonghnen, Kane, Eriksen and Dembele. He inherited a fantastic core that needed a plan and direction, for which he did extremely impressively. I suspect any half decent coach could have achieved similar returns.

 

[Shadydan]

I slightly disagree that Poch single handily move the club to the next level on a shoestring. There were a lot players that helped push the club forward who were already here before he arrived. Lloris, Rose, Walker, Vertonghnen, Kane, Eriksen and Dembele. He inherited a fantastic core that needed a plan and direction, for which he did extremely impressively. I suspect any half decent coach could have achieved similar returns.

Yeah like AVB

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Yeah like AVB

I said half decent. AVB was and still is a fraud.

 

[Shadydan]

I said half decent. AVB was and still is a fraud.

Who is half decent in your book?

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

There's an element within the club using their proxies in the forums to whip up a destabilising campaign against Poch. We've seen this from ValenciaYid's ITK and it's become very evident on here with suddenly loads of posters who have been members for over 10 years but have less than 100 posts to their name suddenly popping up in every second thread questioning Poch and the club's direction etc etc...

This is nothing new. Happens all the time in every club. And who's to say they are wrong? Maybe they're right? Our form in the league since last January merits questioning.

But it never ends well. Last time we ended up with Sherwood.

I'd prefer we all just got behind Poch and the team but I don't think that's the way the wind is blowing.

'..There's an element within the club using their proxies in the forums to whip up a destabilising campaign against Poch. We've seen this from ValenciaYid's ITK'

I have mentioned this too. But what do you mean about the club 'using their proxies on the forums'? Implying they're stirring shit up themselves? Genuine question, sorry if I'm being dense.

 

[Mr Pink]

What I don't get is that Poch, through his own comments this week, has acknowledged that we lack aggression/urgency.

And we clearly do, and its being going on since the turn of the year.

Why has he let it continue for so long?

Ultimately, he prepares and motivates the team.

When you combine that train of thought with his weird comments at times I guess I've answered my own question.

He hasn't been entirely happen and that's affected his own motivational levels in preparing the team.

Bascially Poch not being as happy as he was has trickled down and affected our whole dynamic.

Unfortunate but it's true I think. The question is will it repair itself?

We did see a different level against Palace, so here's hoping.

He's a great manager but clearly there's something not right behind the scenes.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Who is half decent in your book?

From a far, I would suggest Rodgers and Nuno Espirito Santo are a reasonable shout.

 

[Shadydan]

From a far, I would suggest Rodgers and Nuno Espirito Santo are a reasonable shout.

Ha good one, Rodgers got sacked when Liverpool when in a similar position as us and Nuno hasn't really proved anything, one thing doing it at a mid table club but another thing doing it at a big club...

I don't think there's many coaches who would have been able to transform us to where we are now having gone through this period of club transition.

 

['O Zio]

Why? He doesn't pickup any tears, strains or pulls, in fact he's only picked up a hamstring injury only once which kept him out for a week, it's not as if his body needs resting. Yes he's done ligaments in his ankle a few times but that's come from freakish incidents if anything.

If someone plays virtually 90mins every game, are they more or less likely to pick up an injury?

If someone plays virtually 90 mins of every game, are they more or less likely to become tired?

If someone is tired and/or injured are they more or less likely to play at their top level?

 

[Mr Pink]

Ha good one, Rodgers got sacked when Liverpool when in a similar position as us and Nuno hasn't really proved anything, one thing doing it at a mid table club but another thing doing it at a big club...

I don't think there's many coaches who would have been able to transform us to where we are now having gone through this period of club transition.

I actually think we'd look at Rodgers, if Poch left.

Looks to play attacking high tempo football and has probably learned quite a bit from his time at Liverpool - which was pretty good in all honesty.

Very interesting to see how far he can take this Leicester team.

 

[Phomesy]

'..There's an element within the club using their proxies in the forums to whip up a destabilising campaign against Poch. We've seen this from ValenciaYid's ITK'

I have mentioned this too. But what do you mean about the club 'using their proxies on the forums'? Implying they're stirring shit up themselves? Genuine question, sorry if I'm being dense.

Sorry if it came across as like a massive conspiracy or something.

Firstly I mean like it's pretty obvious the ValenciaYids ITK sources are part of a faction which is unimpressed with Poch's current direction of travel. There's nothing conspiratorial or necessarily wrong about this. They give their ITK in good faith and Val passes it on. And many people are of the same mind as them in any case. Not necessarily "stirring up shit" as expressing an increasingly common and exasperated view.

Recently - and I mean in the last couple of weeks - there's been a sudden rash of posters on SC who have been members for over a decade, yet have less than a hundred posts. So you have to ask why such posters who have been pretty much silent since Redknapp have suddenly decided that right now is clearly the most worrying period in the club' history and have swarmed to SC to post about it. Now they could be old opposition troll accounts sticking the boot in? I don't know. It's just been an observable phenomenon recently.

 

[Shadydan]

If someone plays virtually 90mins every game, are they more or less likely to pick up an injury?

If someone plays virtually 90 mins of every game, are they more or less likely to become tired?

If someone is tired and/or injured are they more or less likely to play at their top level?

Yeah I get all this but why Kane?

Most footballers play 90 mins every match, why are we treating Kane any different to anyone else?

Injuries will occur anywhere to anyone, trying to protect a single player against injuries or tiredness is pointless, why don't we call for Son to be subbed off to protect him for example?

Also taking him off 10 mins here and there isn't going to do conserve much energy.

 

[mattyspurs]

I actually think we'd look at Rodgers, if Poch left.

Looks to play attacking high tempo football and has probably learned quite a bit from his time at Liverpool - which was pretty good in all honesty.

Very interesting to see how far he can take this Leicester team.

Didn't Levy used to have a hard on for Rodgers back in the day?

 

[OPModric]

Agree with you, If it came down to it, i would also take lucien favre in a second, also julian nagelsmann would be a interesting candidate for the future, not so much the now ( he only just went to RB Lipzig)

Allegri must be a very possible option too

 

[dagraham]

Yeah I get all this but why Kane?

Most footballers play 90 mins every match, why are we treating Kane any different to anyone else?

Injuries will occur anywhere to anyone, trying to protect a single player against injuries or tiredness is pointless, why don't we call for Son to be subbed off to protect him for example?

Also taking him off 10 mins here and there isn't going to do conserve much energy.

Son doesn’t start 99% of Spurs games though.

 

[Shadydan]

Son doesn’t start 99% of Spurs games though.

Ok fine...Eriksen does so why not him then?

 

[dagraham]

Ha good one, Rodgers got sacked when Liverpool when in a similar position as us and Nuno hasn't really proved anything, one thing doing it at a mid table club but another thing doing it at a big club...

I don't think there's many coaches who would have been able to transform us to where we are now having gone through this period of club transition.

Yeah I agree some are doing Poch a disservice. Although I still think Poch falls a bit short tactically, he’s been instrumental in getting us to where we are.

 

[dagraham]

Ok fine...Eriksen does so why not him then?

Well I think plenty of Spurs fans ( me included ) think Eriksen has been in need of a rest/competition for his place over the last few years.

 

[mike_l]

I said half decent. AVB was and still is a fraud.

See that line trotted out a lot, AVB had us fighting at the top end of the table with a much weaker squad, playing pretty dull result orientated football. Poch has us fighting slightly higher up the table, with a much stronger squad, playing pretty dull result orientated football.

Why is one a "fraud" and one is the messiah?