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olliec

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Some social media are starting to say that they hate levy more than Sol.

is this maybe a tad too far or is it actually getting there?
 
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We were 5th in the trophy table when ENIC took over, we're now 7th, it's a sad decline
We'll probably never know the full story behind the Abrahamovic interest in us. But for sure it was a massive sliding doors moment, meaning we went in time from the second biggest club in London to the third.
I've been ENIC out for a long time and am always haunted by what might have been
 

robotsonic

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Some social media are starting to say that they hate levy more than Sol.

is this maybe a tad too far or is it actually getting there?
Well, he's done a lot more for the club than Sol Campbell, and not done anything as bad to the club as Sol Campbell, so it's probably just the usual rabid Twitter bellends having yet again huffed a load of hyperbole.
 
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joshua_snodgras

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Totally agree. If it’s bottom line focussed among his other investments, when the dip in revenue/profits is shown on a biannual/annual chart… then he’ll say “hmmmmm”. He’s not looking at daily Beavertown sales and SSN & Twitter saying “bloody hell”.
I dont imagine 86 year old joe lewis gets many sleepless nights on his mega yacht in the bahamas wondering about spurs.
 

Bobbins

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Some social media are starting to say that they hate levy more than Sol.

is this maybe a tad too far or is it actually getting there?

That's obviously utterly insane.

The bellends saying this will be a combination of middle aged men who should know better, and teenagers who don't even know what Sol did.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Wick3d

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I always thought Levy was competent but a penny pincher. He doesn't take risks, etc. But the last couple of seasons have shown me that when it comes to football and the running of a football club, like many of us, he doesn't have a fucking clue.
 

sundanceyid10

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Nah he will blame someone else and sack them instead. Wait a minute …..
Thing is what you are doing here is weighing up the good v the bad which is the wrong way to look at it and it wouldn't wash in any other walk of life. If you kept making the same very costly mistakes as the CEO of any other organisation that annoyed your customers you'd be moved on regardless of how many other things you did well.
You nail it with posts. Any other job and the person at the top would pay the price for repeated failures. Levy is the common denominator in everything.
 

sundanceyid10

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It’s a mess, we want to know why we don’t win things, because of the shit mentality at the top, lack of actions.

no manager, a pointless DoF, star player contract running out, players not giving a fuck and we are going to take a long process for another new manager - it’s an absolutely shambles of a club and that is down to the top of the company, they alone are accountable for this whole mess.

we literally are the club that just gives ammunition to all other clubs for a hammering 😂
I thought when Kane was close to leaving and the whole Nuno debacle that it was bad, but oh no turns out it’s worse. Levy was on about making the right appointment, yet here we are again with yet another of his clusterf*** decisions failing. Failure upon failure, sacked manager upon sacked manager, trophyless season upon trophyless season. The man is a looser.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I always thought Levy was competent but a penny pincher. He doesn't take risks, etc. But the last couple of seasons have shown me that when it comes to football and the running of a football club, like many of us, he doesn't have a fucking clue.
Disagreeing based on the fact that some on here have a clue and a lot on here know much more about football than Levy, he is genuinely clueless on football and PR, he is a business man, a financial numbers guy.

It would be like putting a nuclear scientist in charge of a zoo or asking an electrician to run a farm.

Levy has grown our brand and facilities well and he has lined his and ENIC's pockets gloriously, £200mil investment now worth north of £2bil! Complete 'success' in that sense for what ENIC wanted to achieve.

On the football side he has sabotaged us far far far more often than he has moved us in the right direction.

We chose football,' Levy explained, 'because it is the most popular sport on earth and the biggest money spinner.

For me, put the results to one side what is most sickening is that the DNA and philosophy of our great club has been completely eroded the last 3-4 years.

Tim Vickery said it perfectly on TLWOS most recent podcast that strip it all back and Levy/ENIC have simply lost sight of and don't understand Tottenham's heritage.

The push and run side of the 50's
The double winning side of the 60's
The flair players
Winning and going for glory and playing with style

The last 3 managers as well as his attempt to make us 'Juventus On Thames' by hiring Paratici have been completely the polar opposite of what our club has always stood for and THAT is why there is such a horrible negative feeling right now even though we site 4th in the league (as well as because of the lack of plan/direction).

I love this great club, I wish we could influence change so we can get our club back.

All Levy needs to do is hire a DofF and Manager who associate more closely with the values of our fans and history and map out a project and plan towards football success but he has no clue and no vision so until either the fans and media influence him and his cronies enough and/or he is replaced or steps down then this cycle will continue indefinitely which is very sad.
 
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sundanceyid10

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Disagreeing based on the fact that some of here have a clue and a lot on here know much more about football than Levy, he is genuinely clueless on football and PR, he is a business man, a financial numbers guy.

It would be like putting a nuclear scientist in charge of a zoo or asking an electrician to run a farm.

Levy has grown our brand and facilities well and he has lined his and ENIC's pockets gloriously, £200mil investment now worth north of £2bil! Complete 'success' in that sense for what ENIC wanted to achieve.

On the football side he has sabotaged us far far far more often than he has moved us in the right direction.

We chose football,' Levy explained, 'because it is the most popular sport on earth and the biggest money spinner.

For me, put the results to one side what is most sickening is that the DNA and philosophy of our great club has been completely eroded the last 3-4 years.

Tim Vickery said it perfectly on TLWOS most recent podcast that strip it all back and Levy/ENIC have simply lost sight of and don't understand Tottenham's heritage.

The push and run side of the 50's
The double winning side of the 60's
The flair players
Winning and going for glory and playing with style

The last 3 managers as well as his attempt to make us 'Juventus On Thames' by hiring Paratici have been completely the polar opposite of what our club has always stood for and THAT is why there is such a horrible negative feeling right now even though we site 4th in the league (as well as because of the lack of plan/direction).

I love this great club, I wish we could influence change so we can get our club back.

All Levy needs to do is hire a DofF and Manager who associate more closely with the values of our fans and history and map out a project and plan towards football success but he has no clue and no vision so until either the fans and media influence him and his cronies enough and/or he is replaced or steps down then this cycle will continue indefinitely which is very sad.
Levy and Co have given us the term ‘Spursy’.

as you say at the this point the evidence is overwhelming, the cycle will continue as long as he is running the show.
 

Wick3d

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I always thought Levy was competent but a penny pincher. He doesn't take risks, etc. But the last couple of seasons have shown me that when it comes to football and the running of a football club, like many of us, he doesn't have a fucking clue.
Disagreeing based on the fact that some of here have a clue and a lot on here know much more about football than Levy, he is genuinely clueless on football and PR, he is a business man, a financial numbers guy.
If you read what I wrote, you'll notice I said many, not all.
 

Metalhead

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That's obviously utterly insane.

The bellends saying this will be a combination of middle aged men who should know better, and teenagers who don't even know what Sol did.
I'm definitely one of the people who feel that Levy is floundering at the moment but it's a trite comparison.
 

Barmby Army

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I understand why people get so fed up with the missed opportunities and the lack of trophies, and Levy might well have reached a point where he has outlived his usefulness, but I do wonder sometimes if people lose sight of our place in the ecosystem.

There are two teams above us (and one coming up behind us now) who have built winning machines by financially doping for the past 10-20 years. Then there are three teams who are 'organically' bigger than us - United, Liverpool and Arsenal. That is five teams that we can *hope* to finish above, but we have no divine right to finish above.

Of course it's incredibly frustrating that our periods of overachievement in Levy's era have led to a lot of near misses but only one minor trophy, but I don't think anyone can realistically argue that we have underachieved under his stewardship.

We're the sixth biggest team in the league and for the past decade or so we have generally been fourth or fifth in the league. The mistakes Levy has made during that period (and there have been many) have stopped us from overachieving to a greater degree, that's not the same as underachieving.

The idea of us winning the league should be laughable when we are competing with two teams who have built their success on outright cheating, but we've come very close twice and consistently finished above teams who have more reason to expect success than we do.

Levy has undoubtedly made mistakes that may have held us back from winning a major trophy (or at least the odd League Cup that would have kept the fans off his back), but it's worth acknowledging that he has overseen the period where we were competing for them against the odds.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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I understand why people get so fed up with the missed opportunities and the lack of trophies, and Levy might well have reached a point where he has outlived his usefulness, but I do wonder sometimes if people lose sight of our place in the ecosystem.

There are two teams above us (and one coming up behind us now) who have built winning machines by financially doping for the past 10-20 years. Then there are three teams who are 'organically' bigger than us - United, Liverpool and Arsenal. That is five teams that we can *hope* to finish above, but we have no divine right to finish above.

Of course it's incredibly frustrating that our periods of overachievement in Levy's era have led to a lot of near misses but only one minor trophy, but I don't think anyone can realistically argue that we have underachieved under his stewardship.

We're the sixth biggest team in the league and for the past decade or so we have generally been fourth or fifth in the league. The mistakes Levy has made during that period (and there have been many) have stopped us from overachieving to a greater degree, that's not the same as underachieving.

The idea of us winning the league should be laughable when we are competing with two teams who have built their success on outright cheating, but we've come very close twice and consistently finished above teams who have more reason to expect success than we do.

Levy has undoubtedly made mistakes that may have held us back from winning a major trophy (or at least the odd League Cup that would have kept the fans off his back), but it's worth acknowledging that he has overseen the period where we were competing for them against the odds.
I do worry at the moment though that he isn't sure what his next move is - not helped by the debacle last time we had a recruitment process. He needs to decide first what direction the club takes in terms of the philosophy on the pitch and go for a coach accordingly not just go for a particular name, irrespective of their brand of football.
 
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