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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

panoma

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Why would Levy care? ENIC is in it to make money. As long as us fans keep watching every game and the stadium is packed it's all the same to him.

If the fans gets uneasy he fires the manager to give himself another year or two as optimism is restored.

Repeat cycle when needed.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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We can at least make him uncomfortable in his seat for 2 hours a week, he can enjoy himself the rest off time counting his pennies.
 

the lad

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Firstly, the funding for the stadium is already in place now and has been for quite some time, so we dont need to do anything other than stay in within the debt covenants which as I have explained will not be onerous at all.

Secondly, as for not knowing what goes on in transfers, we do know that Christopher Hitchens travelled to Milan to get Skrinniar. We do know that we would not meet the asking price so we didn’t get him, and went for the much cheaper Joe Rodon at 1/3 of the price and that Joe Rodon has played about 4 games maybe for us, and even then when forced into it by injuries and is now on loan in France. So well done Daniel Levy - not only did you not get the player that the manager wanted and could have improved the defence, you have also pissed away £11m on a player our last 3 managers didn’t trust as well - but at least he was cheap
Christopher Hitchens - love it, thanks for giving me a giggle after that shit show tonight. We may as well have sent Christopher Biggins.
 
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whitesocks

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Each to their own, but for me, I'd 100% rather be a winning club than one that's only every challenging for UCL qualification. Is that moving forward? No one remembers how many times their club finishes top 4, they remember winning leagues and cups. Football for me is about prestige over healthy spreadsheets. I don't think that's irrational in the slightest. Our club used to be synonymous with glory and 'to dare is to do' not fiscal stability and never challenging for top honours. That sounds like post-peak Arsenal to me. Participation medals don't count for me, personally.
top 4 allows us to pay for a stronger squad. A stronger squad is more likely to win things.
That's the theory.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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If you want to get your argument out there across the football world and initiate change then I'd at least get some sort of solid factual argument in place where your opponent cannot wriggle off the hook.

I see far too many fans still bring it back to not spending money. Like it or not, in the last 3-4 years - of all clubs worldwide - we're 7th in total spend, and 3rd in net spend. The wage bill is a comparative weakness still but has as a % grown quicker than our rivals, and doubled, in the last 5 years. We pay managers a fortune, probably one of the biggest payers of them all. We have spent money, and a lot of it, and it's not really a correct narrative anymore (if it was in the past). And it's why you'll see pushback from the club as we have done in the last couple of years about spending, and why I assume we're getting quotes now where some at the club think they haven't done much, if anything, wrong.

If you're determined to skewer them, do it qualitatively and on stuff where there is merit. How this money is spent, club vision and operations (tbf, for once this week I saw the Supporters Trust at least attempt to put some fairly probing questions to the club on this), lack of trophies, etc..... Don't just boil it down to lazy, factually dubious, tropes.
Such a good post ? it’s not about ‘spend spend spend’ it’s about have an actual clear plan on the football side for success and have an ambition and desire to win things, we’ve had neither for 22 years, the fans are finally waking up to this now, conte and this loss of form right now could be the best thing that happens to us long term if it fully wakes up the majority of our fanbase to take action ?
 

YB123

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Yet he still gets defended for “backing the managers” by idiocy.



Those people think if you spend money, its backing.

Lets say Conte's 3 targets for Jan realistically are Porro £40m, Zaniolo £30m & Hincapie £30m - Thats £100m

And we get say a RWB in for £20m, an attacker for £20m and a defender for £20m. Just because we've spent £60m it doesnt mean hes been backed.

But ultimately it comes down to backing the manager.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Those people think if you spend money, its backing.

Lets say Conte's 3 targets for Jan realistically are Porro £40m, Zaniolo £30m & Hincapie £30m - Thats £100m

And we get say a RWB in for £20m, an attacker for £20m and a defender for £20m. Just because we've spent £60m it doesnt mean hes
The issue with anyone he buys now I don’t trust him to do it as any sort of plan, it will be all reactionary to calm the brewing storm with no real change in direction, and fundamentally no real drive to win things and have greater ambition$ than CL qualification.

The fans deserve much more, the patience we shown whilst they grew their investment, net 0 for so many years and ironically the infrastructure they built deserves much better. It’s pathetic that we see ourselves growing in stature every way financially but the thing that matters most to fans has been neglected no end when really there is no reason for it other than greed, if you don’t want to prioritize the football team you shouldn’t have bought a football club, fuck off.
 
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ultimateloner

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Each to their own, but for me, I'd 100% rather be a winning club than one that's only every challenging for UCL qualification. Is that moving forward? No one remembers how many times their club finishes top 4, they remember winning leagues and cups. Football for me is about prestige over healthy spreadsheets. I don't think that's irrational in the slightest. Our club used to be synonymous with glory and 'to dare is to do' not fiscal stability and never challenging for top honours. That sounds like post-peak Arsenal to me. Participation medals don't count for me, personally.
Each to their own, so this would be my last reply on this sub to you. I think you already understand my point.
You are a romantic, nothing wrong in that as a fan. However romantics live short lives.
 
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