The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[rossdapep]

We are in 2023 and the article is from January 2022. I am all for him leaving though.

The years blur into one when you support this club

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

Each to their own, so this would be my last reply on this sub to you. I think you already understand my point.
You are a romantic, nothing wrong in that as a fan. However romantics live short lives.

I appreciate your reply to me, but I truly don't understand 'romantics live short lives.' Quite possibly the most confusing thing I've ever read on a football forum. No need to explain, though, I don't want to hold you to a conversation longer than you wish to participate in it as we clearly have vastly different ideas of what success is, and that's totally fine

 

[whitesocks]

Sure, I understand the theory, but I'm more into concrete things than theoretical things. The theory hasn't worked out for us, has it?

No it hasn't. But without cl qualification, we wouldn't have signed some/any of the players we did last summer. The vast majority of fans here were ecstatic with the transfer window and quick to stomp on anyone who disagreed.

A lot of quality was added to the squad in theory and we all expected a front 3/4 of son, kane, richarlison, kulu would be scoring for fun, and we could even be contenders for a while.

OK, it turns out they were all shite... But repeated cl qualification and repeated upgrades will eventually make us competitive. Logically, it has to. We have to get lucky at some point. Conte understands this and it is vital we qualify again this season.

 

[punkisback]

Yet he still gets defended for “backing the managers” by idiocy.

Only two of those deals were doable. The others all went to bigger clubs. Honestly think that he has let us down in the market however but for Bastoni and Tevez these are backwards steps for them. Ideally we would like to sign the best players but it’s not about how much money we put in, players don’t see us as that much of a draw. If you can’t sign Tevez, why not sign a young player with high potential to reach those levels.

Our problem was The likes of Mane were attainable as they were youngish and for good fees, only problem was the pooor wages that we offered. This is where Levy let us down. And instead of scouting a like for like repleacment we went with who was available in Sissoko who was nothing like Mane. Again let down by scouting. Signing Stevie B again let down by scouting, a right footed left winger where we were strong in that department who didn’t have the pace or dribbling skills to play in the Pl. another one let down by scouting.

 

[bombarda]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

 

[Karol]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

If true, we need to oust Collecott too
Bogof
Bin One Get one Free

 

[sundanceyid10]

No it hasn't. But without cl qualification, we wouldn't have signed some/any of the players we did last summer. The vast majority of fans here were ecstatic with the transfer window and quick to stomp on anyone who disagreed.

A lot of quality was added to the squad in theory and we all expected a front 3/4 of son, kane, richarlison, kulu would be scoring for fun, and we could even be contenders for a while.

OK, it turns out they were all shite... But repeated cl qualification and repeated upgrades will eventually make us competitive. Logically, it has to. We have to get lucky at some point. Conte understands this and it is vital we qualify again this season.

Unfortunately Newcastle money is on the way and Kane is probably leaving, I don’t see top 4 happening much in the near future. Take Kanes goals away and the table would look horrific.

 

[tototoner]

I started a thread in 2013 asking if Daniel Levy was holding the club back, so this isn't something new or what people haven't been saying for a long time and as long as he remains as chairman we will never be successful

 

[Albertbarich]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

He can fuck off too

 

[septicsac]

Yet he still gets defended for “backing the managers” by idiocy.

When you see it on paper it's borderline negligence.

 

[DiVaio]

Yet he still gets defended for “backing the managers” by idiocy.

And yet people are using Fernandes -> Lo Celso as an argument of Pochettino not backed when it was well reported Gio was his 1st choice.

 

[littlewilly]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

This is a pretty naive view. Collecott will have an administrative and budgeting role but you can’t tell me that Levy has relinquished financial control to anyone. That’s just not the way he operates.

 

[McArchibald]

And yet people are using Fernandes -> Lo Celso as an argument of Pochettino not backed when it was well reported Gio was his 1st choice.

Pick one and ignore the rest...

 

[bombarda]

This is a pretty naive view. Collecott will have an administrative and budgeting role but you can’t tell me that Levy has relinquished financial control to anyone. That’s just not the way he operates.

It’s not a case of relinquishing control. In any well run business there is going to be somebody in charge of strategy (a CEO usually), and somebody in charge of finance (a CFO usually), just as there will be somebody in charge of marketing, product etc. We know that Levy can be a bit of a control freak, but there is every chance that just how much is budgeted for transfers, wages etc will be set by the board as a whole and then controlled by Collecott. That’s not to absolve Levy of blame of course, but things like payment structures and meeting release fees will be controlled by Collecott. It makes perfect sense.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

Nice try Daniel ?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

OK, here we go, the hex is on

 

[spursfan77]

I'm not trying to say this is ITK, but it did come from somebody within the club. It's not Daniel Levy who signs off on spending. It's Matthew Collecott. Agree that Levy needs to step back again from the football side of things (I think it must be something to do with Paratici's legal problems), but I was told that Levy leaves a lot of the budgeting on players to Collecott.

He's head of finance isn't he so probably signs off on the spend but it is levy who decides what to pay, make no mistake about that.

 

[ultimateloner]

Unfortunately Newcastle money is on the way and Kane is probably leaving, I don’t see top 4 happening much in the near future. Take Kanes goals away and the table would look horrific.

Take Son goals away and we are already in trouble.
It's what happens when your world-class players dont fire.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I started a thread in 2013 asking if Daniel Levy was holding the club back, so this isn't something new or what people haven't been saying for a long time and as long as he remains as chairman we will never be successful

Yep hearing people I used to argue with saying the same stuff I was saying 10 years ago, hope finally we can unite and put the pressure on for real change.

Would say with ENiC it’s always been a 50/50 marmite type issue where 50 put more emphasis on the stadium and 50 put more emphasis on the pitch. If we use the results of the poll on here about Qatari investment as a microcosm of the general fan base 2/3 want qatari investment. So probably safe to assume most want change and would be happy for ENIC to go, if you split the other 1/3 in half where half don’t want Qatari investment under any circumstance even if it means sticking with ENIC and the other half actually still happy the job ENIC are doing, I’d say as a rough estimate the fanbase could be around 80/20 against ENIC to varying degrees. Certainly the vibe feels that way now, enough is enough, time for real change.

 

[DiVaio]

Pick one and ignore the rest...

Lol sorry so I will say more
Tevez -> Saha is laughable because Tevez was on 200k per week which in 2012 was completely unrealistic for Spurs.
Striker needed -> Gedson, Bergwijn which completely misses fact that Gedson was a replacement for injured Sissoko, Bergwijn can play both as winger or striker(or Son could then play as a striker). Mourinho publicly said he was very happy with this window(pretty sure it was also confirmed by ITK).
Dybala and Bastoni didn't happen because other reasons, not because Levy didn't want to back managers and didn't want to spend money.