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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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It feels like the stadium and commercial enterprises have given Enic a way of making the club incredibly profitable without actually needing on the field success. As long as we are vaguely relevant they will continue to make money. Levy would probably love it if we won something, but not ahead of profits. They won't care if the legacy fans dissappear because the stadium will still fill with tourists and corperate hospitality types. The only way I can see anything changing is significant external investment, or something to happen that makes us way less appealing to sponsorship etc - like relegation. Meanwhile newcastle, Brighton and villa all leapfrog us in the space of one year. Depressing as hell.

This is misdiagnosis of the problem imo,

The money is all being spent on the team. There have been very few dividends.

The ENIC out movement needs to focus on the one biggest problem and it isn't spending.

It's strategy and organisational structure and discipline.

We have incompetent football minds dictating how and when we buy and sell players.

Brighton are heralded as the shining example, and I'd agree. But put their personnel under Levy and they would eventually fail.

Because when they'd get a signing wrong - as all clubs do eventually - they'd be blocked from trading their way out of it until we've cleared the deadwood under terms Levy deems acceptable (which never arrive).

So they stay in the squad or out on loan blocking any progress and stinking out the culture.

The opportunity cost of this inteferrance FAR outweighs the hit we needed to take on the player 3 years ago.

The required hit to then move them on gets greater and greater as more times passes since they played well.

He's a great negotiator when he holds the cards, and TERRIBLE one when he doesn't.

When it comes to transfers Levy operates from a position of pure ego and not strategic thinking or pragmatism.
 
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mil1lion

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Oh good my One Hotspur membership has gone up in price. Makes sense I suppose, this time last year we had Paratici and Conte going into a Champions League season. Now we don't have CL football a DOF or a manager.
 

sidford

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Oh good my One Hotspur membership has gone up in price. Makes sense I suppose, this time last year we had Paratici and Conte going into a Champions League season. Now we don't have CL football a DOF or a manager.
I had two to make it easier to get tickets for me and wife. Have cancelled renewal of both today.
 

Rosco1984

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I had two to make it easier to get tickets for me and wife. Have cancelled renewal of both today.
I sent a very blunt response with a list of reasons to decrease prices not increase them but it's a do not reply email so no one will ever see it what's the one that's actually monitored?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Oh good my One Hotspur membership has gone up in price. Makes sense I suppose, this time last year we had Paratici and Conte going into a Champions League season. Now we don't have CL football a DOF or a manager.
Erm mate I think you've forgotten about Beyonce and the go-kart track added value :ROFLMAO:
 

Albertbarich

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Dov67

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Never been a fan of Oliver Holt - felt he has been unfairly harsh on the club players and managers over he years that has often been way OTT

BUT


there not much in this article I disagree with
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Never been a fan of Oliver Holt - felt he has been unfairly harsh on the club players and managers over he years that has often been way OTT

BUT


there not much in this article I disagree with
Yea this nails it unfortunately
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Question for those of you that attend games - I think ticket prices have remained stagnate for a couple of years now, but what about prices for food and drinks in the stadium? Have they also been kept level?
 

mill

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At what point does he realise he looks like a complete twat for the way he’s running the club?
 

HW61

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The fact that we don't have naming rights yet is mind blowing to me. For a chairman who sees himself as a businessman, it's extremely poor
Absolutely. Surely the trigger point and height of value was Conte getting us top 4 last season. Can only assume ENIC thought they could grab even more money.

Cochraam’s excellent post above summarised a catalogue of appalling, incompetent decisions. Trix’s post in the “Next manager” thread highlighted a Board pulling in opposite directions.

Nothing has been learned from the many mistakes of the past demonstrates arrogance and crass negligence by custodians of OUR club.

Whilst they own us we will have the same chat within 2 years.
 

Dunc2610

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I think the banking rights thing might be related to fact that stadiums with naming rights aren't allowed to be used in the euros or something?
 

mil1lion

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I think the banking rights thing might be related to fact that stadiums with naming rights aren't allowed to be used in the euros or something?
It's only certain types of naming rights that are banned. Like the Etihad has to change name, I think to City of Manchester Stadium just for the world cup. I imagine any rights we got would include an agreement to change to THS again for a major tournament.
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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It feels like the stadium and commercial enterprises have given Enic a way of making the club incredibly profitable without actually needing on the field success. As long as we are vaguely relevant they will continue to make money. Levy would probably love it if we won something, but not ahead of profits. They won't care if the legacy fans dissappear because the stadium will still fill with tourists and corperate hospitality types. The only way I can see anything changing is significant external investment, or something to happen that makes us way less appealing to sponsorship etc - like relegation. Meanwhile newcastle, Brighton and villa all leapfrog us in the space of one year. Depressing as hell.
Levy and Lewis have used THFC, the football club as a Trojan horse to build a property portfolio and an entertainment venue. Using the upturn of Prem League TV rights money and a bit of borrowing to turn their 20m investment into a multi billion pound valued asset. Let’s not kid ourselves, it’s not the football team and it’s success that has got the value up to that level. It’s the infrastructure that’s been built and its potential. They aren’t interested in the football at all. It’s like a loss leading product which they support just enough (organic investment) only because it props up the whole exit strategy of theirs when they decide to cash in.

Edit - just realised Trojan Horse allows for the club still to have THFC as its initials.
 
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