The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[DanielJohnCosta]

How about if I told you that you can criticise how we are run but also acknowledge when the owner has done something right?

 

[Stamford]

How about if I told you that you can criticise how we are run but also acknowledge when the owner has done something right?

I think many do. Well done for building a great ground master Levy and all your commercial deals, one of the best in the land. You'll get more plaudits when you shift your focus away from property and into funding the football team after selling the biggest asset and not replacing him.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

No, you and a lot of people have been told why this analogy isn't acceptable. Yet people still decide to use it. If they do that consciously, then it I'd them using anti semitic tropes.

I'm jewish, and not comfortable with this analogy. It's one of the worst.

You are still defending it. You cannot tell people it isn't abuse, when you have no idea about how people from a minority feel about certain things.

The issue is there is a lot of people bandwagoning the levy hate train specifically because he’s Jewish.

I genuinely can’t remember the last time someone else was so consistently labelled a “parasite” or “vermin”. I’ve never seen Sol Campbell called those things before, why Levy?

Even if you mean no harm, relatively speaking, it’s not hard to just call him something else.

I hate Levy more than the next man for how he runs this club, I’m not Jewish, but I’m also not comfortable with the fans who call him a parasite or words to that effect.

 

[Kirito]

I bet if Levy had more charisma and didn't look like a Batman villain, people wouldn’t care as much.

I know he could do better with certain things, but the constant noise on this forum in every thread is insane. He lives in your heads rent free.

 

[Mattyhp]

My continued concern with Levy is I can’t remember the last time he delivered an acceptable transfer window. I’m not talking spend, just a failure to sort out obvious gaps in the squad that even non football experts could identify. I couldn’t care less about Fati and quite frankly based on a game a week and a couple of international breaks we could even cope without Johnson in truth until Jan. But to be linked with zero quality CB’s and to pray nothing happens to either VDV (still a bit raw) and Romero (prone to injury and suspension) is ridiculous. I just can’t see how he does a meaningful deal in that area now that Ange actually wants. Seriously to sign one CB which technically means we have 3 left including Sanchez shows a distinct lack of ambition.

 

[robin09]

No sales or purchases since we sold Kane 3 weeks ago, is absolutely shocking.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

The issue is there is a lot of people bandwagoning the levy hate train specifically because he’s Jewish.

I genuinely can’t remember the last time someone else was so consistently labelled a “parasite” or “vermin”. I’ve never seen Sol Campbell called those things before, why Levy?

Even if you mean no harm, relatively speaking, it’s not hard to just call him something else.

I hate Levy more than the next man for how he runs this club, I’m not Jewish, but I’m also not comfortable with the fans who call him a parasite or words to that effect.

Because he is gaining the profits of ENIC to the detriment of the club's future. Maybe you suggest another word then?

 

[Gpnash84]

We really do have a highly strung fanbase. Comments like “this is what Levy has done to me down the years” as if we are in Everton’s position. You would have thought the pre levy era was lined with league title successes. Clearly he has a number of shortfalls which are well documented but please cut out the hyperbolic shite around destroying the club or deliberately holding us back. Are there better operators out there? For sure, but there are a hell of a lot of worse ones and we should be careful what we wish for.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Because he is gaining the profits of ENIC to the detriment of the club's future. Maybe you suggest another word then?

I’m not even justifying this nonsense with a proper response.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

I’m not even justifying this nonsense with a proper response.

you asked why Levy is being called a parasite and I answered you. And you suggested to call him something else. So can you suggest another term so that people can use it instead of the word you don't like?

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

The issue is there is a lot of people bandwagoning the levy hate train specifically because he’s Jewish.

I genuinely can’t remember the last time someone else was so consistently labelled a “parasite” or “vermin”. I’ve never seen Sol Campbell called those things before, why Levy?

Even if you mean no harm, relatively speaking, it’s not hard to just call him something else.

I hate Levy more than the next man for how he runs this club, I’m not Jewish, but I’m also not comfortable with the fans who call him a parasite or words to that effect.

I have to say I am with @coy-spurs1882 on this one. I find it very uncomfortable that Levy's actions keep getting linked to his Jewish roots when that was never the intention of the poster (same applies to the term "tight"). I appreciate pulling people up on terminology is well meaning but I think it is doing more harm than good as being Jewish is constantly being brought up in this thread alongside universal hate for Levy.

The definition of a parasite is "an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense" which is extremely applicable to Levy as an individual (and definitely not Campbell).

A better comparison would be to google "parasite" and "Mike Ashley" or "Glazers" and you will find plenty of times that term is used to describe owners looking to profit from football over on-field success.

 

[chas vs dave]

No, you and a lot of people have been told why this analogy isn't acceptable. Yet people still decide to use it. If they do that consciously, then its them using anti semitic tropes.

I'm jewish, and not comfortable with this analogy. It's one of the worst.

You are still defending it. You cannot tell people it isn't abuse, when you have no idea about how people from a minority feel about certain things.

@chippospur @ElliottBowd

Why do you dislike someone criticising antisemitic tropes.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

If today comes and goes and we don't bring anyone in the toxicity is going to be nuts.

he cannot read a room or he just doesn't give a shit, selling Kane and not a single incoming since, at least if we spent the Kane money prior then announce them after he's gone for the optics alone.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

you asked why Levy is being called a parasite and I answered you. And you suggested to call him something else. So can you suggest another term so that people can use it instead of the word you don't like?

I have to say I am with @coy-spurs1882 on this one. I find it very uncomfortable that Levy's actions keep getting linked to his Jewish roots when that was never the intention of the poster (same applies to the term "tight"). I appreciate pulling people up on terminology is well meaning but I think it is doing more harm than good as being Jewish is constantly being brought up in this thread alongside universal hate for Levy.

The definition of a parasite is "an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense" which is extremely applicable to Levy as an individual (and definitely not Campbell).

A better comparison would be to google "parasite" and "Mike Ashley" or "Glazers" and you will find plenty of times that term is used to describe owners looking to profit from football over on-field success.

You’re both missing the overarching point. I concede the point and understand why people are using the word parasite to describe greedy owners. Mike Ashley is a good example. The Glazers are a Jewish family and quite frankly the United fans are entitled bellends who want the glazers out only when they lose. They spend an obscene amount of money every year.

The issue is that being called a parasite when you’re Jewish is incredibly insulting. In Nazi Germany the word was used prominently in propaganda to aid with the legitimisation of persecuting Jewish people. I’m pretty sure the slur goes back as far as the Age of Enlightenment.

There is no doubt in my mind that some Spurs fans are well aware of how deeply insulting the word is to a man like Levy and choose to use that word specifically for that reason. In my mind, I wouldn’t want to associate myself with the minority of individuals who are using the word for that purpose.

If you believe he’s bleeding the club dry, which personally I think he is, call him a con man, a crook, a criminal etc.

 

[mattspur1986]

Honestly get a grip you lot. You’d complain if the deal for Fati was just a loan and then you’d complain when we let it go because we are not a bottom feeding club. I have literally been fighting with a spurs fan who complained fati was like replacing berbatov with Frasier Campbell and then he went on to moan when it feel through. This fan base is literally delusional, the fati deal is 100% correct decision if we didn’t gAin ownership

It’s literally not about the player, as been said multiple times! It’s the way we go about our business! We’ve had Itk that we were interest since April (we knew it’d be a straight loan) yet we spent months on it, then acted shocked when Barca pulled the plug. It’s levy 101. Fact if the matter is, we’re now woefully short with less than 48 hours to sort all out business incomings and outgoings. History doesn’t lie, and you can’t blame people for getting annoyed at it.

we will be here come sat am, and people will still say it’s not the clubs fault, when in fact it is 100% the fucking clubs fault for acting like amateurs - and majority of us are sick to the back teeth of it.

 

[chas vs dave]

I have to say I am with @coy-spurs1882 on this one. I find it very uncomfortable that Levy's actions keep getting linked to his Jewish roots when that was never the intention of the poster (same applies to the term "tight"). I appreciate pulling people up on terminology is well meaning but I think it is doing more harm than good as being Jewish is constantly being brought up in this thread alongside universal hate for Levy.

The definition of a parasite is "an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense" which is extremely applicable to Levy as an individual (and definitely not Campbell).

A better comparison would be to google "parasite" and "Mike Ashley" or "Glazers" and you will find plenty of times that term is used to describe owners looking to profit from football over on-field success.

It was the very basis of the Nazi campaign against jewish people in Nazi Germany.

Again, its been pointed out by why it's offensive BY JEWISH PEOPLE On numerous occasions.

That's not your right to define why it isn't.

You're now trying to double down and gaslight it.

It's been quite clearly stated why I find it offensive, on multiple occasions.

If you consciously use the term, then I'm sorry you are being anti semitic.

 

[fingersinc]

Have I imagined the last few years of anti Levy chants home and away, where's this notion he's still popular and beloved come from?

Maybe it’s coming from the people that were booing the Levy out chants at Fulham on Tuesday night.

 

[chas vs dave]

Because he is gaining the profits of ENIC to the detriment of the club's future. Maybe you suggest another word then?

Yet he isnt. They haven't taken a penny out of the club. It's plain as day on the P & L.

At least get that fact right.

Has he stifled the club on the playing field, yes.

Is he risk adverse and not doing enough to move this club forward, yes.

 

[KingNick]

Maybe it’s coming from the people that were booing the Levy out chants at Fulham on Tuesday night.

Those people just don’t think anti-levy sentiment should interfere with supporting the team during a match. I doubt that they are actually “levy-in”

 

[KingNick]

Yet he isnt. They haven't taken a penny out of the club. It's plain as day on the P & L.

At least get that fact right.

Has he stifled the club on the playing field, yes.

dz he risk adverse and not doing enough to move this club forward, yes.

Profit doesn’t have to be in cash/dividends. The enormous capital gain is a profit on the original investment. That capital gain has been used by leveraging the stadium/ticket/broadcast income to secure a very large debt to build the new stadium without ever investing more than they would be able to take out.