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HoltbiusMac

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For someone who is so apparently crap Shawcross has been a main part of the best, most consistent defence outside of the top 6 for several seasons. Must all be a fluke I guess.
 

loaderspurs

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For someone who is so apparently crap Shawcross has been a main part of the best, most consistent defence outside of the top 6 for several seasons. Must all be a fluke I guess.
I agree with stoke historically having a great defence, but for me that was a hell of a lot more to do with Pulis than with their personnel. Stoke's defence this year was very different to previous seasons, and Palace's defence looked greatly improved...
 

easley91

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We need a bullish defender from time to time. Shawcross fits that for me. I won't judge until he's played several games for us, as players often play better for certain clubs. He may be decent for us, you never know.
 

JJetset

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No doubt Jj has an excellent source, but I'm not sure why his every comment is taken as scripture in that exact moment in time, just as with what occurred with Davies. The Goat may have a different source, and one that's heard something more recently. Jj is great ITK, but that doesn't necessarily define impending results later down the line.
Alright then want a bet ?
 

Breezer

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I don't understand why people wanted Caulker, but now are dismissing Shawcross.
They should be dismissing BOTH!

Man Utd have first option to sign him. They've sold Vidic and Ferdinand has left, but still don't approach Shawcross. I wonder why????
 

Spursidol

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Some of our incomings need to show 'Captaincy' material, and 'solid' 'no surrender' attributes - all elements missing from our team last season at times, especially against the likes of ManCity, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

Sandro and Kaboul used to show that, but not much in evidence last season. Dawson was one of the few providing that mindset last season - so if he's off thats even more important.

So that does suggest that the likes of Vlaar and Shawcross need to be on our list of possible CB's - even if they are not top of the list
 
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TheAmerican

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They should be dismissing BOTH!

Man Utd have first option to sign him. They've sold Vidic and Ferdinand has left, but still don't approach Shawcross. I wonder why????
Because United have gobs of money and can approach bigger targets?

If we are purchasing a specific role-type player, we don't need to break the bank, it just has to be the right fit.
 

Breezer

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Because United have gobs of money and can approach bigger targets?

If we are purchasing a specific role-type player, we don't need to break the bank, it just has to be the right fit.
Nothing to do with him not being good enough? IMO he's a younger version of Dawson. Unless we're upgrading then stick with what we have.
 

LiamJM10

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I don't understand why people wanted Caulker, but now are dismissing Shawcross.

Agree with this. Didn't want Caulker back either. Likewise, don't want Reid. They're midtable/lower end centrebacks. Do their job well in their respective systems, but they are not good enough to make the step up.
 

spursfan77

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I can't see us signing shawcross. He completely goes against the whole ethos of tottenham hotspur.
 

loaderspurs

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Got to say I feel sorry for JJ sometimes. Yes he's connected, but he's also a fan. I come here because I love talking about spurs with other fans. He comes in, posts one thing and is immediately asked questions about what he knows never gets a chance to merely have a debate, and thus rarely posts around here anymore. :-(
 

Hoopspur

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Saturday lunchtime, page frigging 16 and all we've established is we may (or may not) be in for Ryan bleedin' Shawcross!!
 
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