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Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

SpursJord

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2018
183
563
I seriously believe people focus to much on the Sports washing. Yes it is probably helpful but by and large if QSI buy into Spurs, Minority or in Full in the Future it is to WIN. They love sports and want anything they own or is associated with to be the best around.

So if QSI do buy in things will have to change with or without Levy because they will not put their Name against a club that doesn't win or compete for the major titles.
 

mil1lion

This is the place to be
May 7, 2004
42,681
78,556
Yes. It should matter to those who run football in this country. It should matter to the likes of Beckham and Fifa who enrich themselves off the back of the Qatari regime. And it should matter to players who choose to play for these paymasters enriching themselves with an absurd amount of money to kick a ball about.

But it doesn't because they all want a piece of the pie. Everyone is in it for the pound note... except the fans.

The fans being the lifeblood of the club, paying their hard earned cash to follow the team and buy the kits don't seem to matter in the big corporate world of football. We're pawns to these uber rich elite and frankly, meaningless. Sure, we can protest or boycott but it wont do any good, it's the money that talks. There will be more fans who come along to buy tickets and merchandise (mostly the glory hunters). So we're not hurting the Qatari's by walking away from our club, we're hurting ourselves. The club will be here long after Levy, Lewis or the Qatari's have gone. Us real fans have suffered years of frustration under a tight fisted chairman like Levy. Times up.. we carry on into obscurity or we sell out. And you could bet your last pound coin whoever has a few billion lying around to buy the club have fucked someone over somewhere. You don't get that kind of wedge being an honest operator.

Fans don't give a shite about how 'well run' the club is or how much profit we're bringing in. The game is about glory! That's what I was brought up believing anyway. But all I've witnessed in my 36 years supporting Spurs is them lot down the road winning doubles and the Russian buying a champions league and numerous titles for our other rivals. We haven't had glory in my lifetime, it's just a cliche for marketing.

It's not our club selling out, football sold its soul a very long time ago.
It's a lot like life under government too. The rich get richer and pretend to understand the cost of living crisis for the rest. This is life sadly, all we non wealthy can do is get on with our lives and make the most of it in spite of the wankers in charge. Fuck the system!
 

legion

tanguy remontada
Jul 17, 2020
54
128
Another one bites the dust. Shame, I thought he was looking to buy us given our links with his INEOS company and the friendly we played against his other team (Nice)

 

bc205

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2005
3,584
6,325
I seriously believe people focus to much on the Sports washing. Yes it is probably helpful but by and large if QSI buy into Spurs, Minority or in Full in the Future it is to WIN. They love sports and want anything they own or is associated with to be the best around.

So if QSI do buy in things will have to change with or without Levy because they will not put their Name against a club that doesn't win or compete for the major titles.

The winning is an integral part of the sportswashing. They are not separate at all.

The whole point is to create a successful brand/club to generate positive publicity and to help present a sanitised version of Qatar and distract from human rights etc

Don't kid yourself, the main reason that they are investing heavily in sports is for political/sportswashing purposes.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
23,702
93,530
Another one bites the dust. Shame, I thought he was looking to buy us given our links with his INEOS company and the friendly we played against his other team (Nice)

He was also in the running to buy Chelsea, and he didnt get that.
 

wadewill

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2005
3,164
10,483
Another one bites the dust. Shame, I thought he was looking to buy us given our links with his INEOS company and the friendly we played against his other team (Nice)

He’s a United fan isn’t he
 

pablo73

Well-Known Member
Dec 6, 2006
3,981
13,623
The question has been asked in the ITK thread what do we want from the club and the people running it.

I think we'd all like the same level of expertise, focus, dedication, joined up thinking and long term strategy that has been put into the club's infrastructure to be put into the footballing side of things. I mean, we are a football club after all, apparently.

Just some sort of fucking vaguely coherent plan would be a good start rather than the consistently muddled thinking, scattergun approach from someone who does not have the relevant expertise, to put it mildly!

Hire experts in their field and let them get on with it. He's actually done the first part but is clearly too much of a control freak to do the second part.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,726
88,919
Lol - seriously?!? o_O Son of working class parents, who went to a Grammar school and then Birmingham University who became the UK's richest man through incredible business investments
You mean buying failing assets at cut prices and then letting them run into the ground, dealing with protests against poor working conditions and safety by buying his workers rights off them, keeping all base of operations and homes in tax havens whilst campaigning for brexit, sinking money into vanity projects like Belstaff, the Grenadier, etc etc. He was considered the richest man in the Times for a year, before they changed how they calculated accumulated wealth or something.

I'm not going to go into details. Suffice to say his wealth is down less to business acumen, and more to being a mean bastard. The dude is Mr Burns.

Oh, and the working class/council estate angle that gets used for these guys is tedious. Everyone was working class and lived in a council estate before the whole right to buy and aspiration bullshit in the 80s. Using it as some sort of handicap, like we should all be impressed that one of us serfs managed to do well, is really patronising.
 

RELISYS

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2011
93
347
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If Arsenal win the PL without oil money, anything we 'won' with it would be meaningless. Their achievement would always be profoundly greater.

Deep down we know it too, we'd be invalidated as a club.
Arsenals current Top Flight Status has not been obtained through sporting merit, so you could argue that all the Titles they have won since are Tainted or Meaningless, since it is a fundamental requirement for any Club to Win Promotion, not be given it, to Win a Top Flight Title, We have won our Two Titles the right way while theirs will always be Tainted. They have no right to criticize any Club when their current Top Flight Status was based on the FA Breaking their Own Rules regarding promotions to accommodate them.

They also benefit from Oil Money, not just through the television rights deals but also one or their biggest sponsors are Emirates who are owned by an Oil State, so they have benefited greatly from it over the past decade, despite what their fans say and the same applies to every Premier League Club, directly or indirectly. The Premier League and Football is not a Clean Sport in this Regard.

People are assuming that if QSI do buy the Club they will use their own money to help fund Transfers, that might not be the case they might want to run the Club in a sustainable way since we already generate huge sums of money and probably don't need them to. We just need a better Footballing Strategy.
 
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