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Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

freeeki

Arsehole.
Aug 5, 2008
11,840
69,468
What’s really concerning…

Let’s say we somehow signed Porro, Zaniolo and Ndicka before the end of January.

An outlay of over €100m.

Will it make that much difference?

Probably not.

That should give some indication of just how deep the rot in our squad is.

We’re probably a minimum of 9-10 signings away being able to compete for anything.

Hundreds of millions needed to fund that. Which ENIC simply will not invest.

Instead they’ll focus on trying to get as much money as possible for Lo Celso, Ndombele and Winks, and ask Conte to get the best out of Dier, Lloris and Sanchez in the mean time.

And I don’t care that they spent €60m on Richarlison. That’s not an indication of them backing the manager.

Sure, we needed him, but anyone who claims they thought Richarlison alone would be the key to us challenging, is lying.

Congratulations on the stadium half of us can’t afford to go to. Now can you spend some money on players or get the fuck out of our club, you bald prick.
 

rossdapep

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2011
22,159
79,696
Back in 2017 we signed Sanchez and Foyth as the future hope they'd replace them one day.

In 2018 it became clear that Toby and Poch had an issue and that we may have neeeded to consider selling him.

in 2019 Poch was gone but it had become clear that Vertonghen was not the player he was and Toby whilst still doing ok was still not looking as 'safe' an option.

Foyth was clearly not going to improve under Poch and Jose didn't fancy him. We could also all see that Sanchez had glaring weaknesses.

Knowing all this, a serious club would have made it a priority position and considered selling someone to refund it.

Unfortunately the pandemic came, so ill cut the club slack on that.

Vertonghen and Toby left shortly after. But prior to that the club had a choice. Skriniar or Rodon.

Now consider everything in regards to this situation.
Vertonghen is going.
Toby will be gone soon.
Sanchez isnt improving
Foyth is not rated.
Dier ????

The club felt the right step was a fucking kid. Not a proven serious CB. A kid.

Since then weve added Romero. And Rodon obviously wasnt up to it.

One serious CB in 6 years.

To compound matters. Hugo's age hasnt been some revelation, people noted we needed to seek a replacement 3 years ago.

We didnt necessarily need to let him go but the club should have at least brought in a keeper that looked like a good replacement. Much like Juventus did with Sczezsny for Buffon.

Instead, they have had 4 FUCKING STRIKES.

All cheap or free options.

1. Gazzajigga - clearly was never going to be good enough.

2. Hart - Clearly passed it.

3. Gollini - Probably the cheapest get out card ever....and was useless.

4. Forster - I like him but hes not a Tottenham no1.

All that time, agent fees etc etc could have been saved with a smart investment in 2019 or so.

The utter neglect of this board and ownership has been a disgrace.

Instead Levy was out there chasing old flames (Bale) and coaches he wanted 15 years ago (Jose)


If that doesn't highlight how out of touch he is, I dont know what will dl
 

mil1lion

This is the place to be
May 7, 2004
42,493
78,079
Conte doing his best to bring the value of the club down as I'm sure Levy was asking for too much
 

Bluto Blutarsky

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2021
15,185
70,732
Back in 2017 we signed Sanchez and Foyth as the future hope they'd replace them one day.

In 2018 it became clear that Toby and Poch had an issue and that we may have neeeded to consider selling him.

in 2019 Poch was gone but it had become clear that Vertonghen was not the player he was and Toby whilst still doing ok was still not looking as 'safe' an option.

Foyth was clearly not going to improve under Poch and Jose didn't fancy him. We could also all see that Sanchez had glaring weaknesses.

Knowing all this, a serious club would have made it a priority position and considered selling someone to refund it.

Unfortunately the pandemic came, so ill cut the club slack on that.

Vertonghen and Toby left shortly after. But prior to that the club had a choice. Skriniar or Rodon.

Now consider everything in regards to this situation.
Vertonghen is going.
Toby will be gone soon.
Sanchez isnt improving
Foyth is not rated.
Dier ????

The club felt the right step was a fucking kid. Not a proven serious CB. A kid.

Since then weve added Romero. And Rodon obviously wasnt up to it.

One serious CB in 6 years.

To compound matters. Hugo's age hasnt been some revelation, people noted we needed to seek a replacement 3 years ago.

We didnt necessarily need to let him go but the club should have at least brought in a keeper that looked like a good replacement. Much like Juventus did with Sczezsny for Buffon.

Instead, they have had 4 FUCKING STRIKES.

All cheap or free options.

1. Gazzajigga - clearly was never going to be good enough.

2. Hart - Clearly passed it.

3. Gollini - Probably the cheapest get out card ever....and was useless.

4. Forster - I like him but hes not a Tottenham no1.

All that time, agent fees etc etc could have been saved with a smart investment in 2019 or so.

The utter neglect of this board and ownership has been a disgrace.

Instead Levy was out there chasing old flames (Bale) and coaches he wanted 15 years ago (Jose)


If that doesn't highlight how out of touch he is, I dont know what will dl
P.S. Are they gone yet?
 

legion

tanguy remontada
Jul 17, 2020
54
128
That Qatar money can't come soon enough... Hopefully it brings with it a more attacking manager but I'll take what I can get.
 

Clockspur

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2013
891
4,057
Back in 2017 we signed Sanchez and Foyth as the future hope they'd replace them one day.

In 2018 it became clear that Toby and Poch had an issue and that we may have neeeded to consider selling him.

in 2019 Poch was gone but it had become clear that Vertonghen was not the player he was and Toby whilst still doing ok was still not looking as 'safe' an option.

Foyth was clearly not going to improve under Poch and Jose didn't fancy him. We could also all see that Sanchez had glaring weaknesses.

Knowing all this, a serious club would have made it a priority position and considered selling someone to refund it.

Unfortunately the pandemic came, so ill cut the club slack on that.

Vertonghen and Toby left shortly after. But prior to that the club had a choice. Skriniar or Rodon.

Now consider everything in regards to this situation.
Vertonghen is going.
Toby will be gone soon.
Sanchez isnt improving
Foyth is not rated.
Dier ????

The club felt the right step was a fucking kid. Not a proven serious CB. A kid.

Since then weve added Romero. And Rodon obviously wasnt up to it.

One serious CB in 6 years.

To compound matters. Hugo's age hasnt been some revelation, people noted we needed to seek a replacement 3 years ago.

We didnt necessarily need to let him go but the club should have at least brought in a keeper that looked like a good replacement. Much like Juventus did with Sczezsny for Buffon.

Instead, they have had 4 FUCKING STRIKES.

All cheap or free options.

1. Gazzajigga - clearly was never going to be good enough.

2. Hart - Clearly passed it.

3. Gollini - Probably the cheapest get out card ever....and was useless.

4. Forster - I like him but hes not a Tottenham no1.

All that time, agent fees etc etc could have been saved with a smart investment in 2019 or so.

The utter neglect of this board and ownership has been a disgrace.

Instead Levy was out there chasing old flames (Bale) and coaches he wanted 15 years ago (Jose)


If that doesn't highlight how out of touch he is, I dont know what will dl
The worst bit is you know under Levy/Enic will just make small steps towards addressing the issues

maybe Porro comes in now

a decent CB and Keeper in the summer padded out by youngsters and freebies on top. Richy as Kanes replacement with a young cheap player to be back up.

Terrifying to think how bad this squad will look this time next year if we don’t get Qatari money
 

spursfan77

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2005
46,684
104,964
The worst bit is you know under Levy/Enic will just make small steps towards addressing the issues

maybe Porro comes in now

a decent CB and Keeper in the summer padded out by youngsters and freebies on top. Richy as Kanes replacement with a young cheap player to be back up.

Terrifying to think how bad this squad will look this time next year if we don’t get Qatari money

and this is where they’ve always let everyone down. They just don’t recruit and invest properly. We want to be a big club but refuse to act like one. It’s a complete lack of professionalism and drive from the top for any success. It is like the football is secondary to everything else. At least if we do get an investment or take over the new owners won’t be as bad as that. Sure if it isn’t the qataris we could get another bunch or arseholes in but they wouldn’t shoot themselves in the foot as many times as levy has. It wouldn’t be possible.
 

For the love of Spurs

Well-Known Member
Mar 28, 2015
3,445
11,260
Sad position. The realisation that we are going nowhere never unless the owners sell up, doesn’t even have to be someone with endless pockets, even someone with vision and the determination to provide a plan would help.
 

Buster18

Well-Known Member
Sep 27, 2005
1,079
2,288
We're the 9th biggest earners in Europe. We earned £75m more than Arsenal last season.

These figures are for June 2022 and only include Euro income from Conference League Qualifiers and Group Games. It's only going to get higher next season when we add the CL income.

Ridiculous that we're penny-pinching on anything. We could probably spend £billion and still come in under FFP.

Surely someone out there wants to buy us.
 

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Mattyhp

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
52
363
The sadder thing is we have enough wealth to compete, but we have a chairman that can’t create a consistent strategy for the football side of the club. Companies change CEO/Chairman all the time, sometimes it’s performance driven, more often than not it’s to provide a fresh approach and new ideas. To have stuck with Levy despite it becoming obvious he can’t take the club to the next level only highlights the shareholders/ownership are happy with flirting with success as long as they pack out the stadium and turn a profit. Which is precisely why when push comes to shove I can’t see them selling a single %, more likely naming rights as any significant equity sale means they will get challenged by ambitious shareholders
 

Pochemon94

Well-Known Member
Aug 6, 2019
1,615
4,388
The sadder thing is we have enough wealth to compete, but we have a chairman that can’t create a consistent strategy for the football side of the club. Companies change CEO/Chairman all the time, sometimes it’s performance driven, more often than not it’s to provide a fresh approach and new ideas. To have stuck with Levy despite it becoming obvious he can’t take the club to the next level only highlights the shareholders/ownership are happy with flirting with success as long as they pack out the stadium and turn a profit. Which is precisely why when push comes to shove I can’t see them selling a single %, more likely naming rights as any significant equity sale means they will get challenged by ambitious shareholders
well i hate to say it, but he isn't getting fired considering he's the head of the board.... isn't the board specifically in place to keep the CEO/Person running the show in check?
 

carlosspurs

Active Member
Aug 24, 2008
95
147
well i hate to say it, but he isn't getting fired considering he's the head of the board.... isn't the board specifically in place to keep the CEO/Person running the show in check?
Clear this has and doesn’t happen. But the board should be in a position to challenge the Chairman/CEO.
 

carlosspurs

Active Member
Aug 24, 2008
95
147
well i hate to say it, but he isn't getting fired considering he's the head of the board.... isn't the board specifically in place to keep the CEO/Person running the show in check?
Clear this doesn’t happen. But the board should be in a position to challenge the Chairman/CEO.
 

Buster18

Well-Known Member
Sep 27, 2005
1,079
2,288
The sadder thing is we have enough wealth to compete, but we have a chairman that can’t create a consistent strategy for the football side of the club. Companies change CEO/Chairman all the time, sometimes it’s performance driven, more often than not it’s to provide a fresh approach and new ideas. To have stuck with Levy despite it becoming obvious he can’t take the club to the next level only highlights the shareholders/ownership are happy with flirting with success as long as they pack out the stadium and turn a profit. Which is precisely why when push comes to shove I can’t see them selling a single %, more likely naming rights as any significant equity sale means they will get challenged by ambitious shareholders
This. Chelsea had a net spend of -£50m last year and it's enabled them to go out and spend nearly £380m this season alone and enabled them to stay within FFP. We could probably spend a £1 billion and stay within it.
 

spursfan77

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2005
46,684
104,964
Careful what you wish for. We could end up with a Glazer's type owner with the figures we're turning over.

But even they invest in the team considerably. I wouldn’t mind owners taking dividends if it didn’t effect on pitch recruitment and the running of the club. They only reason they’ve struggled is because they’ve recruited badly and appointed the wrong managers until now. They’ve always backed their managers with money and signings.

So what if they take £20 million out of the club every year if they invest £200 million on it. It wouldn’t bother me if we were properly run.
 
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