What the pundits & media are saying about us

[Mouse!]

Exactly. Win our remaining games and Shiteh slip up and the title is ours.

We will play City home and away, so it really is in our hands!

 

[spursfan77]

A lot of these so called pundits etc don't do any research and it shows.

We have one bad season and suddenly Aston Villa are better than us.

If you ask them why they think that they can't explain it, they'll just offer some generic nonsense.

I wish MNF wasn't only on when there's a game.

Football in this country desperately needs proper analysis on TV but Sky Sports (for example) don't care.

The same Sky Sports will offer fantastic analysis when they broadcast Cricket, NFL, F1 (Sky Pad etc) though.

When you watch those other sports and the effort put into them it feels like the delivery of their football is just lazy in comparison. It’s like they know they don’t have to bother to keep it. It’s why there needs to be a serious alternative to the tv rights bid.

 

[spursfan77]

Carragher and Neville have shown many times that they can provide genuine insight and informative breakdowns but its seems like its exclusive to MNF.

They play different characters on other days of the week.

That’s because they put a day’s preparation into that show while for commentary they pretty much just turn up.

 

[Buggsy61]

We will play City home and away, so it really is in our hands!

That has given me a spring in my step this morning - what could possibly go wrong!

 

[eViL]

Neville's post super Sunday podcast thing on YouTube is always a decent watch. I just wish it was longer and included every Prem team/game covered that had played up to that point rather than a select few.


Oh and Peter Drury adds a new refreshing change himself.

Decent watch if you're a United fan, outside of that, not really.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Genuinely bemused by getting WTF ratings for this. All I’m saying is spurs aren’t better because they ‘removed the spectre of Harry Kane’ . Even if you disagree (which I find amazing) there is nothing wtf worthy about it

I think it's a bit WTF worthy if i'm being honest. I'm pretty sure Garth Crooks is well aware of the other stuff, all he's doing is highlighting some positives. Just because he doesn't caveat it how you'd want him to doesn't mean he's said much wrong and I think most people understand and get that. Sometimes, just sometimes, pundits allow for people to have the nous to take it as read that there are other positive factors at play as well

Setting the players free does not translate to Spurs are better because or discount other factors. He didn't say that. That's your (somewhat unfair) spin.

 

[Thenewcat]

I think there's everything WTF worthy about it. I'm pretty sure Garth Crooks is well aware of the other stuff, all he's doing is highlighting some positives. Just because he doesn't caveat it how you'd want him to doesn't mean he's said much wrong and I think most people understand and get that. Sometimes, just sometimes, pundits allow for people to have the nous to take it as read that there are other positive factors at play as well

Setting the players free does not translate to Spurs are better because. He didn't say that. That's your spin.

He said two things - Kane leaving has set the players free which a) I disagree with (I’m still gutted I don’t get to watch Kane in an Ange team) but also it isn’t exactly spin to say he is suggesting that’s a positive in his mind that makes us better 2) the captain bit where he seems to think Harry Kane was captain. If you disagree then great, give it a disagree. Not agreeing with an opinion isn’t what WTF is for. I loved Crooks at spurs but he is imo a terrible pundit, and this is an example of that terrible punditry, combining as it does a hot take and a probable mistake

 

[easley91]

He said two things - Kane leaving has set the players free which a) I disagree with (I’m still gutted I don’t get to watch Kane in an Ange team) but also it isn’t exactly spin to say he is suggesting that’s a positive in his mind that makes us better 2) the captain bit where he seems to think Harry Kane was captain. If you disagree then great, give it a disagree. Not agreeing with an opinion isn’t what WTF is for. I loved Crooks at spurs but he is imo a terrible pundit, and this is an example of that terrible punditry, combining as it does a hot take and a probable mistake

Yes the change of style has massively helped, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility to think that now Kane has gone it has forced others to step up in both creating and scoring.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

It's a positive in his mind is a world away from what you were suggesting.

By the way, I used WTF in exactly the right way, Because I can't believe your interpretation

But as you wish.

 

[littlewilly]

He said two things - Kane leaving has set the players free which a) I disagree with (I’m still gutted I don’t get to watch Kane in an Ange team) but also it isn’t exactly spin to say he is suggesting that’s a positive in his mind that makes us better 2) the captain bit where he seems to think Harry Kane was captain. If you disagree then great, give it a disagree. Not agreeing with an opinion isn’t what WTF is for. I loved Crooks at spurs but he is imo a terrible pundit, and this is an example of that terrible punditry, combining as it does a hot take and a probable mistake

I have to admit that Crook’s “team of the week “ on the beeb site is probably the most meaningless and inconsequential piece of “journalism“ I’ve ever had the rough luck to read. Staggeringly, it’s been going on for years.

 

[Thenewcat]

It's a positive in his mind is a world away from what you were suggesting.

By the way, I used WTF in exactly the right way, Because I can't believe your interpretation

But as you wish.

Well i can’t believe yours, so have one back

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Well i can’t believe yours, so have one back

Thank fuck the summer holidays are almost over.

 

[Thenewcat]

Thank fuck the summer holidays are almost over.

It’s alright for you, my daughter’s still at home because her school is made from shit concrete

 

[garyhopkins]

He said two things - Kane leaving has set the players free which a) I disagree with (I’m still gutted I don’t get to watch Kane in an Ange team) but also it isn’t exactly spin to say he is suggesting that’s a positive in his mind that makes us better 2) the captain bit where he seems to think Harry Kane was captain. If you disagree then great, give it a disagree. Not agreeing with an opinion isn’t what WTF is for. I loved Crooks at spurs but he is imo a terrible pundit, and this is an example of that terrible punditry, combining as it does a hot take and a probable mistake

I think Crooks is merely implying that having no Kane gives more responsibility to the other forwards and they are somewhat freer to do more with Sonny rising to the occasion as he often did when replacing an injured Kane.

As for the Captain bit you're mis-understanding Crooks wording. He is not saying that Son has taken over the Captaincy from Kane. He is saying that Kane leaving meant that Sonny got the Captain's armband. Had Kane stayed then it's almost certain Kane would now be Captain.

 

[Thenewcat]

I think Crooks is merely implying that having no Kane gives more responsibility to the other forwards and they are somewhat freer to do more with Sonny rising to the occasion as he often did when replacing an injured Kane.

As for the Captain bit you're mis-understanding Crooks wording. He is not saying that Son has taken over the Captaincy from Kane. He is saying that Kane leaving meant that Sonny got the Captain's armband. Had Kane stayed then it's almost certain Kane would now be Captain.

Well that’s an interpretation but the term ‘spectre’ is much more negative IMO. Your interpretation of the captain issue is also possible and that’s why I said ‘probable mistake’. I’m not misunderstanding it - given crooks’ track record I think it’s much more likely he’s just got it wrong. I also don’t see why handing the captaincy to Kane if he stayed would be a negative. As I said though, personally I think Crooks is a rubbish pundit and is playing to the anti-Kane gallery but have no problem with people disagreeing.

 

[tobi]

That’s because they put a day’s preparation into that show while for commentary they pretty much just turn up.

There's nothing stopping them from doing research for an in studio appearance or something like Friday Night Football.

A lot of these pundits have dedicated researchers available to them, there's no excuse.

A lot of them feel the need to say something and rarely admit when they don't have an answer or aren't familiar with a player's game.

Like Jamie Redknapp doing analysis of Sarr's goal vs Man Utd and he loudly proclaimed that Spurs fans thought he was a defensive midfielder.

 

[Timbo Tottenham]

There's nothing stopping them from doing research for an in studio appearance or something like Friday Night Football.

A lot of these pundits have dedicated researchers available to them, there's no excuse.

A lot of them feel the need to say something and rarely admit when they don't have an answer or aren't familiar with a player's game.

Like Jamie Redknapp doing analysis of Sarr's goal vs Man Utd and he loudly proclaimed that Spurs fans thought he was a defensive midfielder.

I actually worked at Setanta back in the day. I did I brief stint on the golf team and I would prepare a fact/stat sheet for the on air comms.

For the football, you’d see the commentator and co-coms at a computer doing their research (I actually saw Chris Waddle at my usual spot and was going to ask him to move until I realised it was him!!).

So yes, I imagine Sky have a team of researchers and pundits should get in early to go through it/do their own. Who knows if they actually do though.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We will play City home and away, so it really is in our hands!

Surprised that the bookies are even still taking bets on us to win it to be fair

 

[Komma]

Breaking news, PaddyPower are paying out all bets on Tottenham winning the league.







Under 21s' league.

 

[Locotoro]

When you watch those other sports and the effort put into them it feels like the delivery of their football is just lazy in comparison. It’s like they know they don’t have to bother to keep it. It’s why there needs to be a serious alternative to the tv rights bid.

To be fair, those other sports give a lot more time to stats and analysis because the games are traditionally stop/start with lots of time for the pundits to pad out the breaks with information like that whereas Football is almost continious from start to finish bar half time so the pundits focus on commentating on whats happening and how to describe it rather than provide any deep dive on the style, tactics, strategy plays etc.