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LB Hotspurs

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The good thing is if we don't win it this year there is no Euro or World cup to ruin the start of our season. Poch will have a full squad from the off. And this can only make us even better. Super proud of the way we have played this year. But we did have a hangover at the start of the season.

Especially if we can get any transfer business done early as well, and not the problems we have faced in the last 2 summers with them being dragged out affairs. This would be even more of a bonus for Poch to get to work with them and integrate them in to the team alllowing for more rotation next season.
 

yiddopaul

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Starting to agree. While I like watching football the CL and EL just seem to drag on forever these days.
The FA Cup has been criminally undervalued. The CL is to blame, as it's to blame for the gap that grew between the top 4 and the rest of the league. (though that seems to be changing a bit now). It's like a locust that just takes what it wants and leaves destruction in it's wake for everyone else! (maybe a bit extreme?)
 

cheeseman

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The good thing is if we don't win it this year there is no Euro or World cup to ruin the start of our season. Poch will have a full squad from the off. And this can only make us even better. Super proud of the way we have played this year. But we did have a hangover at the start of the season.

Best start since 1960/61. Woeful start, wasn't it?
 

Hoops

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This deserves it's own thread.

19 games. 50 points. An unbelievable run over half a season's worth of games that I never thought I'd see from a Tottenham side. As the mathematicians amongst you can work out, if we'd kept this up for the entire season we'd finish on 100 points which has never been done before in the PL.

This isn't the first time in the Premier League that a team has taken 50 points from 19 games. But it is exceptionally rare. To put it into context, not even Arsenal's "invincibles" or either of Man Utd's European Cup winning sides managed that level of consistency in the league. Neither Liverpool nor Man City have ever reached that mark in the Premier League era, at least not over a single season.

Now let me put this into context specifically as a fan of Tottenham Hotspur. In the 21 full seasons that the Premier League became a 38 game season, we have finished all 38 games with 50 points or less in eight of them - that's more than a third (and we've finished with 53 points or less in more than half of the seasons). Now most of these were in the dark days of 1996-2004, where we averaged 48 points a season over the eight years. As recently as the 07/08 season when we had Berbatov, Keane, Lennon, Bale, Woodgate and King in the squad, we finished with only 46 points, and only 51 the following year.

50 points from half a season's worth of games. That is absolutely insane. If you are young enough to have missed out on Francis, Gross, Graham, Hoddle and Pleat, take a moment to realise how lucky you are to be watching this Tottenham side.


Has there been a thread with more winner ratings? I may have done one but not sure
 

DiscoD1882

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Best start since 1960/61. Woeful start, wasn't it?
All Dier, Kane, Walker and Rose did not start he season well at all.

Drew Everton
Beat Palace
Drew Liverpool

Not the greatest start ever. My point is that there were a few players with a hangover from the summer. And this will not be the case with a full team pre season.
 

cheeseman

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All Dier, Kane, Walker and Rose did not start he season well at all.

Drew Everton
Beat Palace
Drew Liverpool

Not the greatest start ever. My point is that there were a few players with a hangover from the summer. And this will not be the case with a full team pre season.

First seven games:

Won 5
Drew 2
Lost 0

Best start since 60/61. FACT!
 

DiscoD1882

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First seven games:

Won 5
Drew 2
Lost 0

Best start since 60/61. FACT!
again you are missing my point are you saying, which I am. That the England players will be better. Or worse. With a rest and a full pre season. What does our best start since 60/61 have to do with it? I don't even know why you are shooting down my post?
 

cheeseman

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again you are missing my point are you saying, which I am. That the England players will be better. Or worse. With a rest and a full pre season. What does our best start since 60/61 have to do with it? I don't even know why you are shooting down my post?

You said, "...no Euro or World Cup to ruin the start to our season".

I've just demonstrated that the start of our season wasn't ruined.
 

DiscoD1882

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You said, "...no Euro or World Cup to ruin the start to our season".

I've just demonstrated that the start of our season wasn't ruined.
If we are being pedantic. How do you know we wouldn't have won all of our games and Had the best start to a season ever??
 

kmk

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If we are being pedantic. How do you know we wouldn't have won all of our games and Had the best start to a season ever??

Our start will not be the main reason if we don't win the league.

We just need to start beating the rest of the top 7 away and hope Jansen improves next season.
 

RichieS

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Our start will not be the main reason if we don't win the league.

We just need to start beating the rest of the top 7 away and hope Jansen improves next season.
On the other hand, the number of points we end up with this season may well be enough to win the league next...
 

Rout-Ledge

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Rather than mope about how we deserved to win it one of the last two years, let's use this as the motivation to keep competing at the very top for the foreseeable future. If we do, we will win it...and probably more than once.

We just need to keep the spine of the team together, and most importantly we need to keep Poch.
 

slartibartfast

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again you are missing my point are you saying, which I am. That the England players will be better. Or worse. With a rest and a full pre season. What does our best start since 60/61 have to do with it? I don't even know why you are shooting down my post?
Can I shoot down this one? Put your punctuation. In the right. Place. Lol ;)
 

bomberH

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Dude! Spoiler alert! I haven't watched that one yet!

Most weeks I make a pathetic joke when I'm at the Lane. If we're about to take a corner or free kick, I look at my phone and excitedly tell my mates I just got a text from someone watching the match on Sky saying we scored from it. The first time I did it, the guy next to me turned his head excitedly for a split second before it sunk in that he was as thick as shit.
 

dudu

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Couldn't be prouder to be a spurs fan right now. We have done thing the right way with an English core of players and a club ethos that is promoting all the things I want in my spurs side.

We are greater than the sum of our individual parts and our individuals are themselves some of the best players in the league. A genuine team.

Arsenal supporting mates have no fight left in them and are full of praise for us.

Liverpool supporting workmate won't even talk football with me anymore which is such a relief I can't tell you.

I am genuinely just grateful to get to fully enjoy watching the football team I love on a weekly basis.
 
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Lukasz

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But it's not how others remember us that matters, it's how you do. I'm loving this team, loving watching this team knowing it's a proper team doing proper things, coached properly, like other teams I used to be envious of.

Winning a trophy has got harder because this league - the teams in it and Europe has got much better in every way. So for me, being one of the very best teams in this league is a huge footballing achievement and I'll always remember that, whether we win a trophy or not. Whether others remember that or not.

The joy for me is not about one day, one moment, it's about the last three years watching this team week after week evolve into the best Spurs side I've seen, going back to the mid seventies. And doing it the hard way too, by being run well as a club and superb coaching.

Winning the league would be the dream and what this team deserves, but not winning it won't rob me of the knowledge and enjoyment I'm getting from this phase, watching us play great football, play with and without the ball superbly and winning a cup wouldn't mean much at all in comparison to what we have done in the league, the way we have done it and what we have achieved in becoming this team.

That is a beatiful post, Sir.
 

waresy

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In a very short space of time we have gone from a club that had very few players that the fans could identify with or get excited about - a couple of seasons ago it was felt they were detached from the fans - to having a side that excites, doesn't stop going for it and has put together such an impressive run of form it has put us in contention for big things.

Even if we end the season empty handed, which is more probable than the possibility of winning the league, we are exciting, engaging and playing the best football I have seen from a Spurs side.

If we can add to this young and hungry side players of similar ilk, wanting to push themselves to be in the chance of winning medals we stand as good a chance as anyone to taking some silverware soon. This will be much deserved.

Exciting times to be a Spur and lets hope it continues positively. COYS
 

SlotBadger

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In a very short space of time we have gone from a club that had very few players that the fans could identify with or get excited about - a couple of seasons ago it was felt they were detached from the fans
I remember everyone talking about our players' body language away at City. How they (mainly Vertonghen) were leaning on the walls, etc, prior to kick off.

Given how enthusiastic our squad appears to be these days, both on and off the pitch, it's difficult for me to criticise any behaviour under previous management.
 
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