Yet Another Ex-Manager Watch: Cristian Stellini

[ultimateloner]

I like his post-match interview. Seems a nice, measured guy.
Said that he hopes that the heavy loss was due to him playing a new system with the back 4. He left unsaid (but everyone knew this was what he meant) that the tactics wasn't enough of a factor to lead to 4 goals getting shipped in 20 mins.

 

[GioW]

Have managed to avoid most of social media etc tonight -are we thinking he's gonna go?

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

I’m pissed off that it’s 2000 and he hasn’t been told (along with whole coaching staff) their services are no longer required

I don’t see us sacking him. Where do we go from there? None of our managerial targets want the job until the summer otherwise they would’ve taken it when we sacked Conte.

The optics of hiring Mason would be horrendous. We sacked Conte to hire his assistant manager. Now we’re going to sack Stellini to hire his assistant manager. Where does the buck stop?

FWIW, I don’t want Stellini anywhere near the club. He’s very evidently way out of his depth. However, I don’t see where we go from here.

 

[felmani26]

It's akin to when you had a substitute teacher come in - absolutely zero control or authority whatsoever.

Hopelessly out of his depth granted but make no mistakes, he's been thrown under the bus by the hierarchy!

 

[bat-chain]

I wonder what would happen if we just let the players do whatever they think is best and remove the idea of a coaching team entirely.

Conte and Stellini can’t motivate them, maybe they can do it for themselves.

 

[A Bit Much]

I wonder what would happen if we just let the players do whatever they think is best and remove the idea of a coaching team entirely.

Conte and Stellini can’t motivate them, maybe they can do it for themselves.

I'm sure some philosophers have explored this idea. I wonder how it's worked in reality?

 

[mil1lion]

Get Toure or Powell in charge and just bed in some youngsters now. I think fans are done with this team. At least the youngsters would get support from the fans. The season is done until we get a new manager anyway.

 

[rossdapep]

I don’t see us sacking him. Where do we go from there? None of our managerial targets want the job until the summer otherwise they would’ve taken it when we sacked Conte.

The optics of hiring Mason would be horrendous. We sacked Conte to hire his assistant manager. Now we’re going to sack Stellini to hire his assistant manager. Where does the buck stop?

FWIW, I don’t want Stellini anywhere near the club. He’s very evidently way out of his depth. However, I don’t see where we go from here.

We are 5 bad results and sackings from Doris tea lady taking over

 

[jay2040]

He can't stay after today. He has no fucking impact!

 

[rossdapep]

The problem is you are taking them away from the youth team

Get Toure or Powell in charge and just bed in some youngsters now. I think fans are done with this team. At least the youngsters would get support from the fans. The season is done until we get a new manager anyway.

 

[jay2040]

The problem is you are taking them away from the youth team

We can swap! Endearing you care for the youth team!

 

[rossdapep]

I understand what your saying but that’s quite a black and white way of looking at the situation imo.

Thing is, if it was up to Paratici we would have got Enrique and quite possibly he may have come in right away. We may even of not needed Stallini at all. You ether back the DOF or you don’t and Levy clearly did not think Enrique was/is the right fit but still went along with his suggestion (if it really was his suggestion) of Stellini. Levy already set up a precedent for overruling Paratici’s managerial suggestion in the past when he rejected Gattuso all be it last minute. That may well go for signings as well, Spence and Zaniolo are obvious examples. Essentially the dynamic was skewed from from beginning and it’s very clear there was no shared vision between the club/Levy and the DoF.

But the fact is you can ignore all that because everyone knew Paratici was a dead man walking the minute the ban was issued. Best case scenario he would have got a significantly reduced ban but still a ban. Yes your completely right that Levy needs to commit to a DoF and stop getting involved but he needs to commit to one that will be here next season. Not the ideas of a man who has no future at the club. If Levy had any foresight he would have fired Paratici a while ago and brought in a new DoF to oversee the inevitable manager hunt.

Ultimately we all want Levy to be involved as least as possible, but in order for that to happen he still needs to employ people who are actually good at managing the club in his absence and share the same vision. If Levy didn’t completely trust Paratici’s ideas for the club in every aspect (which he clearly didn’t) he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.

This last bit is a really good point.

You hire a DOF you have to leave him completely to it. You cant have any input on who the next coach is, unless they are ridiculously expensive and out of the remit.

If there is even a 1% lack of trust then it won't work.

Which brings us back to 'why hire a DOF who's philosophy does not align with the clubs?'

 

[UncleBuck]

if I was Stellini I’d walk, do I really want to be involved or associated with this absolute cluster show?
He’s quite clearly out of his depth but fair play to him for trying a different formation, unfortunately the players let him down though and folded like a deck of cards, yet again.
This whole sideshow lays on one man’s shoulders, sick and tired of the Levy circus, we are an absolute embarrassment.

 

[mil1lion]

This last bit is a really good point.

You hire a DOF you have to leave him completely to it. You cant have any input on who the next coach is, unless they are ridiculously expensive and out of the remit.

If there is even a 1% lack of trust then it won't work.

Which brings us back to 'why hire a DOF who's philosophy does not align with the clubs?'

Also the problem is the club doesn't even have a philosophy

 

[HildoSpur]

Completely out of his depth and to be honest it's not really his fault - he should never have been put in this situation in the first place.

 

[HildoSpur]

I wonder what would happen if we just let the players do whatever they think is best and remove the idea of a coaching team entirely.

Conte and Stellini can’t motivate them, maybe they can do it for themselves.

You assume the players care.

 

[hescominghome]

Honestly those of you disputing whether a caretaker like Redknapp would improve us / are calling out his age just look at the improvements under the 'ancient' Hodgson as a caretaker at palace. At this point some semblance of managerial ability with a new voice is all we can ask for.

Let's put it this way, we can't do worse than we are doing now realistically can we? a 6 1 drubbing at Newcastle is pretty much as bad as it gets without breaking records. Also one thing in Redknapps favour is at least he would likely be less afraid to drop players who are underperforming.

 

[Tucker]

I stand by what I said about him not going anywhere earlier.

And I’m pretty sure we’d have heard murmurings by now if him going was on the cards.

 

[tottenhamlad]

Redknapp would have got us top 4.

 

[pal90]

Redknapp would have got us top 4.

Redknapp had a get out of jail free card who could turn a game completely on his own called "Bale". ATM we haven't got one of those, nearest thing is Harry K and he needs someone decent around him.