Kendall
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Because wenger nurtures his talent whereas we throw them in at the deep end and tear them down when they don't improve in line with our standards.
Lennon v Bentley
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Because wenger nurtures his talent whereas we throw them in at the deep end and tear them down when they don't improve in line with our standards.
It's arguable that the course of Walnutt's entire career has been changed by scoring a hattrick for England where the opposition goalie dived over one ordinary shot, and Theo took another chance with his left foot because his right boot had disintegrated and he was too superstitious (and too unprofessional) to change it for proper footware.
Capello did not pick Walnutt against Croatia on club form. However, now the guy is super confident, and the strengths of his game - pace, decent technique - are able to shine. The one thing I would attribute to Whinger is a consistent formation. The goon 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 is remarkably consistent. The wide midfielders are coached to run inside (not outside) opposition FBs, and the CMs and strikers look to play them in on goal. So Walnutt knows what he's expected to do, and the team know where he should be at all times.
I'm sure Walnutt has also benefitted from watching Henry in training and matches, because their core strengths are very similar.
Lennon's fundamental problem is his technique. He does not strike the ball cleanly, and this negatively affects his crossing and his finishing. Lennon also hasn't been helped by the fact that we have had no consistent formation or pattern of play in recent times, and the only constant - Berba & Keane up front - is a thing of the past.
Whatever - Walnutt is currently super confident; Lennon is playing very well given our team's confidence is shot and the formation changes from match to match.
DJS
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I still rate Bentley over Lennon and just feel that Bentley needs some time to get his fitness back to 100% and find his form.
Against Pompey I would play Bentley right side where we can benefit from his crossing and distribution and I would play Lennon down the left where he can provide a pacey outlet - his crossing ain't too hot so reckon he should have not probs down the left as he can still stretch the opposition.
Against Pompey I would play Bentley right side where we can benefit from his crossing and distribution and I would play Lennon down the left where he can provide a pacey outlet - his crossing ain't too hot so reckon he should have not probs down the left as he can still stretch the opposition.
Rackybear
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Dont agree.
What yanno said ^^, Lennon has no technique when hitting a football, that is not something that is learnt, its a natural part of your game, you dont change the way you kick a football - youd just look retarded.
At least you can tell with Walcott that he knows how to shoot, he knows when to use his pace and when to release the ball, since his hat-trick in croatia he has been great for arsenal. When lennon is in a confident mood on good form, his crossing, shooting and passing dont exactly improve, he just continues to run at players more consistently and to a greater rate of success.
Lennon will never be a world beater, whether at man utd, arsenal or spurs.
Im not going to write him off - he can still be a good player for spurs, but running at players on the wing, pushing the ball beyond them and then outdoing them for pace before attempting a delivery is about all he will be able to do.
Midostouch
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Bentley will come good if we give him a chance - I can feel his anxiety from where I sit way up in East stand. Bentley on right, Lennon on left, for me - but they need Hutton and Bale overlapping.
dimi - interesting video. Lennon absolutely can beat a man (or men) running at pace, and this makes him potentially a very dangerous player. I note that it's 2:04 before we see a single final ball from Lennon in that YouTube clip though.
All his goals are decently taken. Not one could be called a clean strike.
I'm very happy for Lennon to be a squad player at Spurs. Against certain opponents, and in certain game situations, he's a very valuable option. It's also clear that he's playing much better than Bentley at the moment.
However, both Bentley and Gio have far superior technique, and if they get confident, are imo potentially better players.
All his goals are decently taken. Not one could be called a clean strike.
I'm very happy for Lennon to be a squad player at Spurs. Against certain opponents, and in certain game situations, he's a very valuable option. It's also clear that he's playing much better than Bentley at the moment.
However, both Bentley and Gio have far superior technique, and if they get confident, are imo potentially better players.
DJS
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Ah the memories that brings watching Lennon in those clips!
Still proves he can do a great job down the left or right but also made me feel rather sad at the fucked up state we appear to be in at the moment...
I miss Keano, Big MJ and those days... :-(
Still proves he can do a great job down the left or right but also made me feel rather sad at the fucked up state we appear to be in at the moment...
I miss Keano, Big MJ and those days... :-(
Rackybear
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Dimitar-Berbatov - that video just proves my point.
Firstly its youtube and can make anyone look good *insert random video of Zokora/Rasiak/Voronin* here.
Secondly all he does is run at people and nothing else - he is a one trick pony and although a very useful one at times, the guy has no technique, cannot shoot, cannot cross and cannot pass. Walcott, Young, Ronaldo, Cole, SWP, Babel are all better then him, at least they have other aspects to their games.
Thirdly, 3:40 worth of clips is all he has to show for 3 seasons worth of premiership football? :razz:
Firstly its youtube and can make anyone look good *insert random video of Zokora/Rasiak/Voronin* here.
Secondly all he does is run at people and nothing else - he is a one trick pony and although a very useful one at times, the guy has no technique, cannot shoot, cannot cross and cannot pass. Walcott, Young, Ronaldo, Cole, SWP, Babel are all better then him, at least they have other aspects to their games.
Thirdly, 3:40 worth of clips is all he has to show for 3 seasons worth of premiership football? :razz:
ShelfSide18
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Look at it from a full backs perspective, who would you prefer to be up against?
doubledecker
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Bentley is a poor man's David Beckham. No ability to take on and beat his man , just a good delivery of crosses and free kicks. However the reason that he is only a poor man's Beckham is that those skills seem also to desert him when things are not going well.
One thing that does occur to me is that , like Beckham , it may be worth playing him in a playmaking role. Let him play there and at the same time push Modric right forward in a 4-5-1.
Gomes
Gunter- Woodgate- Corluka- Bale
King
Lennon- Bentley ( or Hudd ) - Jenas
Modric
any one of our strikers
And , yes, King as our holding midfielder as I believe he is the only player in our club that can do that job effectively ( as he has shown for England in the past )
One thing that does occur to me is that , like Beckham , it may be worth playing him in a playmaking role. Let him play there and at the same time push Modric right forward in a 4-5-1.
Gomes
Gunter- Woodgate- Corluka- Bale
King
Lennon- Bentley ( or Hudd ) - Jenas
Modric
any one of our strikers
And , yes, King as our holding midfielder as I believe he is the only player in our club that can do that job effectively ( as he has shown for England in the past )
southlondonyiddo
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They are both completely different types of players
Im just so happy that we played 1 and benched the other because no way should both be playing at the same time
Im just so happy that we played 1 and benched the other because no way should both be playing at the same time
southlondonyiddo
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Yep, for me you can toss a coin each game If you like.....and lennon had a decent 5-10mins 2nd half no more.
ShelfSide18
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But in those 5-10 minutes he was infinitely more effective than Bentley. We struggled to get him the ball after that. I think Lennons one of the few players who can hold his head up high after the awful start we've made.
southlondonyiddo
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.........maybe so but his final ball is still shocking and his end product at the moment is no better than Bentley, who has at least scored a goal
No question he's gone backwards from that amazing player that 1st burst on the scene over 2 seasons ago!
