Is Redknapp Tactically good Enough!

DEFchenkOE said:

It's true fabiano isn't worth £20m and 100k a week imo but at the same time we do desperately need a striker. If however we are going to play as you suggested more often than not 4-4-1-1 with VdV behind Defoe probably then we need to stick with this. If we could get Fab then he would rotate for starting with Defoe.

I mentioned in another thread but we need to stick to one system and bring players in and out around this. VdV will not be there all the time so play Kranjcar if he isn't, we need like for like swaps as much as possible imo. I don't like that when VdV isn't there we change system, think this just imbalances the team in a negative way. If Harry wants to play 4-4-2 then he needs to get vdv to fit in that, whether it's from the right as he did against Wolves or in the central midfield alongside a Palacios/Sandro. Against Arsenal in the cc we should have played the 4-4-1-1 but with different personnel:

Bentley Palacios Sandro Lennon
Giovani
Pavlyuchenko​

Or​

Bentley Livermore Sandro Giovani
Krancjar
Pav​

Any kind of combination but at least try to keep the same structure as the first team.

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BringBack_leGin said:

On the first two, let me correct you a touch. We've actually added VDV, Sandro, Gallas and Pletikosa.

On the third, wouldn't you reassess your aspirations a little if you saw Defoe, Dawson, Gallas, King, Kaboul, Gomes and Ekotto all get injured at once? Five of those six players will always be in the side when fit.

The fourth point, well that is just horseshit I'm afraid to say. Should Wenger have been sacked because, having been regular league winners under him, he has now gone half a decade as the leagues 3rd or 4th best side? Should Ancelotti go if Chelsea fail to win the league this year? Should Pep Guardiola have gone because 2010 only brought one trophy, when 2009 brought six?

If we finish low down the table, then there'll be an argument for displacing Harry. There'll still be an arguement for keeping him and letting him try to build, however. If we finish 5th or 6th, that still puts us in very good stead to make another attempt for the top four next season, especially if we give a good showing this season in the CL to give our own players hope in our chances, as well as potential signings.

Or we could just sack Harry, let a new guy come in with a completely new set of players and a completely new wishlist of transfer targets. Who needs continuity when you have wims and instincts eh?

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Kendall said:

We seem to have a lot of players who are not playing to the potential we have seen.

I don't think its a pure Redknapp failing, but its something that needs to be addressed ASAP.

When Palacios, Lennon, Kranjcar, Corluka, Pavlyuchenko and Defoe are on form, we look frightening, but for some reason, these players haven't been for some time now.

I'm not sure what the answer is really, these players haven't become shit over night, though the latter two have been plagued by inconsistency thought their Tottenham time.

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C-oops said:

Sorry. Gave up reading this thread after 4 pages. The OP is clearly deluded. I think the main reason we are losing or drawing at the moment is simply lack of movement and pace up front. No one is making runs behind the defence. Noone is causing defences to worry about our pace , so we are getting squashed as they push up = less room to play our type of football. Also rarely are we getting anyone from midfield making runs from deep( which can counter a high line). On Sat we lost our most potent attacking threat ( Bale ) to a positional change that couldnt be avoided and who was kept busy by most notably Dyer in the 1st half. With Defoe out we look toothless upfront and need to rectify this in Jan, assuming its not too late. A strong, pacy striker that can play up front on his own was our main priority in the summer and still remains so. I'm not too worried about anything else. Least of all Harry and especially our defence which is only creaking due to the huge injury list.

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kkemal said:

Everything you just wrote about the movement is the managers job to cure! it's called management!!

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BringBack_leGin said:

I do agree that too much system interchange is damaging, though on occasion it is necessary. However, you are right, we need to look at our best option, have a like for like rotator for each player, and then afterwards, have a plan B.

E.g. when all are fit:

Gomes
Hutton Dawson King Ekotto
Lennon Huddlestone Modric Bale
VDV
Defoe

Cudicini
Corluka Kaboul Gallas Bassong
Bentley Sandro Jenas Giovani
Kranjcar
Crouch​

but with two two strikers on the bench, so that a switch to 442 if need be becomes possible should the situation command.

Oh, I'm not necessarily saying that those are the exact teams I'd choose, it's obviously very form dependant, but I was just throwing together a suggestable mish mash.

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kkemal said:

Everything you just wrote about the movement is the managers job to cure! it's called management!!

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WexfordTownSpur said:

I am not saying the coment is wrong that Rednapp falls a little short tactically, especially against masters like Fergie and Venger Boy, but you would expect better against the likes of McCarthy etc.

However I am not going to blame all our woes on Rednapp, although ultimately whatever the problems are, it all goes back to him to get it sorted.

Some key areas seem to be injuries and fitness (maybe related) this then feeds into inconsistent partners in training and on the field!

I feel this an area that Harry needs to look at, are our fitness and medical team up to scratch? I just feel players seem to always take longer than expected to come back and also break down a lot - also I hear harry claiming players are tiered, and a lot and thus need to come off or be rested!

Bottom line is inconsistency on the field of play, and for me, this has been our problem this year!

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BringBack_leGin said:

Hmmm, Barca never resort to long ball. Even in the Champs League semi v Chelsea, they persisted with keeping it on the ground until Iniesta, in the last seconds, won it for them. As for Arsenal being better than us player for player, they might not be (though Vermaelen and Sagna would walk into our defence, Nasri and Fabregas into our midfield and either Chamakh or Van Persie would definitely usurp any of our strikers), but they do have familiarity. That is only bred over time. Their midfield have been together for years, they know eachother inside out, with a change only made when someone leaves, rather than just for the sake of it.



You could ask how a team with Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Anelka, Terry, Cech, Cole and Ivanovic lose to, and be comprehensively outplayed by, us.

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arnoldlayne said:

Er.. how many years have Vermaelen, Nasri, Chamakh been at Arsenal?

And how many 1st team games has Wilshire played - yet fitted into the system easily.

Arsenal have had tremendous injury problems, losing van Persie, Fabregas and others integral to them for long stretches of the season (past/present)

How do they cope yet we don't?

Chelsea and Arsenal consistently play well.

We have the odd good results against good teams but against poor teams, sometimes we win purely because of the better quality of our players. Yet when that fails because the players have been neutralised by "poor" teams we seem at a complete loss.

I don't have the answers and although not a fan of HR, I don't know who we could get to replace him. You would need a manager who has won titles in one of the "big" leagues and a lot of luck, I think. Even then you could end up with someone like Benitez, rather than Wenger.

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Original # 10 said:

I watched Lennon closely second half against Arsenal, upteen occassions when Keane dropped deep or a CM had the ball in a promising position, Lennon refused to make a telling run.

There was so much space behind Gibbs at times, all Lennon had to do was pull wide, time his run across the line and he would have been in. He did this once when Keane found him and he should have scored.

Its not about the manager mangaging as the players are told what to do before they enter the pitch. Its about the players having the confidence to to do their thing. Currently Lennon is lacking in confidence. The only way for him to come thorugh this is to do the old Arry arm round the shoulder and keep the faith.

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kkemal said:

Agree, but Harry sitting down with him and watching a re run of games and highlighting what he wants from him would also be classed as management!!

An arm round him is also management, so why hasn't harry done this?

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