The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 7 July 2011

agrdavidsfan · Jul 7, 2011

Lopez said this in January " i would have loved to have played for chelsea in london but im not sure i would have settled in well and as my lyon team is improving its going places and i decided i wanted to stay at lyon"
Lyon are understood to be in contract negotiations over a new contract that will keep lopez at lyon for another 2 seasons.

So I think the ITK on that is a non started he won't leave Lyon for us!

gibbospurs · Jul 7, 2011

so the leandro itk is not happening again??

Rob · Jul 7, 2011

Dan Ashcroft said:
If Pedroza isn't a hoax (which I'm not convinced about), then he'll surely be off the Championship or League 1 for a year or two. The guy isn't even a regular starter for his Mexican side and hasn't even made the national side U21s (and yet Gio is the star of their full side).

He's not a hoax. Levy speculating on his own again.

bubble07 · Jul 7, 2011

if defoe is having a medical for either newcastle or sundland one of our MANY esteemed ITK's would have said something by now

GlennHoddle · Jul 7, 2011

fickle fans - from jermain defoe he is a yiddo ringing around whl to now people willing to drive him to the north east!
Not saying i am against upgrading him but crazy how fickle fans are..
leandro/pedroza/lopez are not the type of signings to show ambition

we need a rossi/benzema/adebayor if at all possible

adiepf · Jul 7, 2011

bubble07 said:
if defoe is having a medical for either newcastle or sundland one of our MANY esteemed ITK's would have said something by now

i just cant see him ever going that far north...ever!

he is a big family man & loves london...he used to commute to portsmouth when he played for them..

he cant commute to the north east!

Rob · Jul 7, 2011

GlennHoddle said:
fickle fans - from jermain defoe he is a yiddo ringing around whl to now people willing to drive him to the north east!
Not saying i am against upgrading him but crazy how fickle fans are..
leandro/pedroza/lopez are not the type of signings to show ambition

we need a rossi/benzema/adebayor if at all possible

How about if we've always thought Defoe was shit and all he has to his game is to shift it sideways and blast it? Does that stop us being fickle? ;-)

adiepf · Jul 7, 2011

btw quite interesting that we are actively trying to move out unwanted players to bring in quality...theres nothing wrong with that some would say...but

if the defoe rumours are true (which i doubt personally) then surely that is a huge risk if we dont have a better striker lined up?

i mean if we let him go & fail as we did in january to bring in say rossi...then we have a whole berba/frazier scenario again dont we?

GlennHoddle · Jul 7, 2011

Rob said:
How about if we've always thought Defoe was shit and all he has to his game is to shift it sideways and blast it? Does that stop us being fickle? ;-)

Just getting flashbacks of a few months back and all these keane vs defoe threads, where JD always seemed to win the popularity contest.
Don't want to start these all over again, wrong place, but i was always more of a keane man :grin:

ryantegan · Jul 7, 2011

Not latest itk as such. But the last time leandro was mentioned to me, it was as good as done. We'll see

Dan Ashcroft · Jul 7, 2011

Rob said:
How about if we've always thought Defoe was shit and all he has to his game is to shift it sideways and blast it? Does that stop us being fickle? ;-)

x2. Never rated him.

adiepf said:
btw quite interesting that we are actively trying to move out unwanted players to bring in quality...theres nothing wrong with that some would say...but

if the defoe rumours are true (which i doubt personally) then surely that is a huge risk if we dont have a better striker lined up?

i mean if we let him go & fail as we did in january to bring in say rossi...then we have a whole berba/frazier scenario again dont we?

Tbh, I reckon if you played Kaboul upfront he'd score a lot more than 4 in 30. Moving on Defoe is no risk at all IMO.

adiepf · Jul 7, 2011

ryantegan said:
Not latest itk as such. But the last time leandro was mentioned to me, it was as good as done. We'll see

i dont think leandro would be deemed a fit replacement (yet) for defoe though ryan do you?...by H i mean?

gibbospurs · Jul 7, 2011

ryantegan said:
Not latest itk as such. But the last time leandro was mentioned to me, it was as good as done. We'll see

do you know if it was for now or jan by anychance?:grin:

adiepf · Jul 7, 2011

Dan Ashcroft said:
x2. Never rated him.

Tbh, I reckon if you played Kaboul upfront he'd score a lot more than 4 in 30. Moving on Defoe is no risk at all IMO.

tbf i think we can do better than him now but he has only had 1 bad season...the guy scores goals & if we let him go he will score goals again so we best have a good replacement is what i am saying..

cozzo · Jul 7, 2011

adiepf said:
tbf i think we can do better than him now but he has only had 1 bad season...the guy scores goals & if we let him go he will score goals again so we best have a good replacement is what i am saying..

An average of 10 Premiership goals a seasonEek

Dan Ashcroft · Jul 7, 2011

adiepf said:
i dont think leandro would be deemed a fit replacement (yet) for defoe though ryan do you?...by H i mean?

3rd choice forward for a 3rd choice forward.

Some mug (Pardew/Bruce) who hadn't seen him play much in the last 18 months might also be tempted to pay more than £7m for him, which we'd have to bite their hand off for.

Also 21yo low wager for a 29yo high wager.

Rob · Jul 7, 2011

adiepf said:
tbf i think we can do better than him now but he has only had 1 bad season...the guy scores goals & if we let him go he will score goals again so we best have a good replacement is what i am saying..

He'll score goals for a team who play to his strengths, same as Bent.

That doesn't mean it was a mistake to sell Bent and it won't be a mistake to sell Defoe. He's not good enough for us and never has been.

THOWIG · Jul 7, 2011

DoublePivot said:
I've actually removed him from my friends list and ignored him. Joey55 didn't trust him.

Joey and I had one conversation on SC and it went something like this.

Joey: I think we should sign Guerrero
Me: I agree

I wouldn't trust me either!

He was one of the best posters on here as I stated very recently.

Dan Ashcroft · Jul 7, 2011

adiepf said:
tbf i think we can do better than him now but he has only had 1 bad season...the guy scores goals & if we let him go he will score goals again so we best have a good replacement is what i am saying..

Or one standout 3 month spell in a 12 year career.

He's only scored more than 13 goals in a season once remember.

He's got no movement, is always offside, is a flat-track bully, has no bottle (8 penalty misses out of 13) and now no pace.

THOWIG · Jul 7, 2011

Rob said:
He'll score goals for a team who play to his strengths, same as Bent.

That doesn't mean it was a mistake to sell Bent and it won't be a mistake to sell Defoe. He's not good enough for us and never has been.

Have they signed anyone else recently? Last signing I knew of was Cabaye.

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