The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 26 July 2011

Montasura · Jul 26, 2011

The Journalist said:
Montasura

I have not moved on from Germany to Spain. The German deals are very much on BUT I have been told that interest in the Spanish based pair has meant that Tottenham are now focusing on these two players. They will go back to the German deals.

Regarding the FEE for the three. I agree that £15million would be a very good deal for Villa. BUT by giving permission to speak i would suggest its not far off Tottenhams valuation. Expect it to be offered in installlments but we expect that to be declined.
I would suggest that if Villa offer it in cash it could be close to £15million any high and installments.

I can tell you that Villa can not believe that have agreed to sign Nzogbia for less than £10 million and are on a high. I know that Daniel Levy has a reputation for being a mean Negotiator but the new boys at Villa are no mugs.

And so they should be feeling smug. Cracking deal imo and he's gone straight into my dream team. Still think we should have nipped in there :bang:

Viper said:
FFS!!! Ive actually started to youtube Farfan now in an attepmt to convince myself that he might actually be ok!! It hasnt really worked, he offers nothing more than Lennon, I much prefer Affelay!

Obviously you have plenty of time to waste but, seriously, don't bother....he is shit....you know it, I know it....ffs, I suspect he probably knows it too :grin:

$hoguN · Jul 26, 2011

Has anyone bothered to ask POTL is there has been any more developments in regards to Vucinic??

cockeral · Jul 26, 2011

Again I can only maintain from what I was told last week - Modric is staying. Daniel will not sell at any price - it's now a matter pride.

The Journalist said:
I have NO information on Modric. Opinion of myself and my source is that he WILL go. My source believes this will be the last time you will get a fee of £35-40 million.
That is why Arsenal are willing to sell Fabregas.
My view is that in the end senior players; Van der Vaart especially, will get tired of it.

On a more positive note; it is my sources opinion that Bale could be a Tottenham player for many years. Apparently a real decent normal bloke.

brasil_spur · Jul 26, 2011

talkshowhost86 said:
Absolutely brilliant news if true. Would leave us to be able to concentrate on strikers rather than thinking about who may have to replace Modders.

Let's hope this one is accurate.

Or we'll just continue with our pursuit of midfielders (Diarra, Affelay, Farfan etc...) whilst ignoring the obvious fact that we REALLY NEED A FECKIN STRIKER ALREADY and hope for the best :grin:

kdspur · Jul 26, 2011

with reagrds this villa stuff. how can they be given permission when villa are on other side of world. players when given permission means talk to the manager, all financial stuff im sue is taken care of by agent and villa staff surely? villa wont be back till next week from asia

The Journalist · Jul 26, 2011

Cockeral

I am not denying he will stay. I have NO information on it and always state that. I was just offering an opinion.

faze_coys · Jul 26, 2011

who is ghostofarmo (scout)? Top ITK?

i pray we get affelay, we be a real coup. and for the prices been quoted, hes worth 4-5x more than that.

Hot-Spur · Jul 26, 2011

Crouch £8mil
JJ £7mil
Hutton £5mil

Would be closer to it I think, although tbh I don't think Crouch is worth that but I guess saying as he is a "international" he will be extra.

SpursTillIDie1882 · Jul 26, 2011

pythonboy said:
Are you in the pub already?:beer:

I wish!!!!! i gotta type fast when im at work! somethimes or i just have FAT fingers!

KingNick · Jul 26, 2011

kdspur said:
with reagrds this villa stuff. how can they be given permission when villa are on other side of world. players when given permission means talk to the manager, all financial stuff im sue is taken care of by agent and villa staff surely? villa wont be back till next week from asia

no it doesn't. It means any of the clubs representatives can talk to any of t6he players representatives.

Often the manager be be the last person to talk to the player as some players (but usually their agents) will want to make sure the financial package is right first before they look further into whether themove could be the right one.

faulks · Jul 26, 2011

kdspur said:
with reagrds this villa stuff. how can they be given permission when villa are on other side of world. players when given permission means talk to the manager, all financial stuff im sue is taken care of by agent and villa staff surely? villa wont be back till next week from asia

I always thought permission to talk would be us letting Villa talk to the our players/agent regarding wages, personal terms etc.

Although these days I imagine that is probably one of the first things that happens...

The Journalist · Jul 26, 2011

Kdspur

I think i stated last week that Alex McLeish will not be involved in the deals. HE has identified the players but other people are doing them. Thats why Nzogbia fee was agreed Yesterday while he was in Asia. First game is tomorrow, second on saturday and new players should be due for meeting him Monday.

Bobbins · Jul 26, 2011

We really missed a trick with N'Zogbia. Could've covered 3 or 4 positions for us. Far better player than Pienaar, for example, and would allow us to get rid of Niko and Bentley without risking lack of cover.

Rob · Jul 26, 2011

faulks said:
I always thought permission to talk would be us letting Villa talk to the our players/agent regarding wages, personal terms etc.

Although these days I imagine that is probably one of the first things that happens...

What's the point of us negoatiating for weeks on a fee for the player to turn around and say "move to Stoke? **** that"?

I always assumed initial interest etc was confirmed at a very early stage but the personal terms weren't finalised until the club were happy with the fee.

SpursTillIDie1882 · Jul 26, 2011

The Journalist said:
Montasura

I have not moved on from Germany to Spain. The German deals are very much on BUT I have been told that interest in the Spanish based pair has meant that Tottenham are now focusing on these two players. They will go back to the German deals.

Regarding the FEE for the three. I agree that £15million would be a very good deal for Villa. BUT by giving permission to speak i would suggest its not far off Tottenhams valuation. Expect it to be offered in installlments but we expect that to be declined.
I would suggest that if Villa offer it in cash it could be close to £15million any high and installments.

I can tell you that Villa can not believe that have agreed to sign Nzogbia for less than £10 million and are on a high. I know that Daniel Levy has a reputation for being a mean Negotiator but the new boys at Villa are no mugs.

£15M for both jenas and hutton is right, but i wouldnt include crouch in that, that would be day light robbery!! for all 3 i think £22M is fair, £5M hutton, £8M jenas and £9M crouch

nailsy · Jul 26, 2011

agrdavidsfan said:
Rumour in the Modric thread is Lukas at the training ground without his gear on and shaking hands with players and staff

Any news on that @Thejournalist

Is he finally saying sorry to everyone?

Bobbins said:
We really missed a trick with N'Zogbia. Could've covered 3 or 4 positions for us. Far better player than Pienaar, for example, and would allow us to get rid of Niko and Bentley without risking lack of cover.

Would have been a good squad player for us, but we just can't fit him in the team at the moment.

Montasura · Jul 26, 2011

kdspur said:
with reagrds this villa stuff. how can they be given permission when villa are on other side of world. players when given permission means talk to the manager, all financial stuff im sue is taken care of by agent and villa staff surely? villa wont be back till next week from asia

Video link?? Telephone?? Old fashioned I know but hey if it gets the job done who cares

Bobbins said:
We really missed a trick with N'Zogbia. Could've covered 3 or 4 positions for us. Far better player than Pienaar, for example, and would allow us to get rid of Niko and Bentley without risking lack of cover.

This

SpursTillIDie1882 · Jul 26, 2011

Bizness said:
Been in a meeting, has the ghostofarmo (scout) stuff been posted?

unfortunatly you cant ask an ITK on coys, else you'll get the book thrown at you! ive been burned brfore by the COYS Police!!

cockeral · Jul 26, 2011

Absolutely appreciate it.

I know the Modric debate is a sensitive topic on here - but when someone who regularly posts ITK offers their opinion, this sometimes gets misconstrued and people mistake it for genuine information, which leads to panic in the cyber forum streets.

I just want to assuage any sense of panic.

The Journalist said:
Cockeral

I am not denying he will stay. I have NO information on it and always state that. I was just offering an opinion.

faulks · Jul 26, 2011

Rob said:
What's the point of us negoatiating for weeks on a fee for the player to turn around and say "move to Stoke? **** that"?

I always assumed initial interest etc was confirmed at a very early stage but the personal terms weren't finalised until the club were happy with the fee.

I meant inital talks regarding terms etc. Stoke for example might go "We are willing to pay you 20k a week with bonuses" and Jenas will tell them to fuck off straight away because it will never be what he wants.

Since I'm pretty sure doing this without telling anyone constitutes tapping up, that is why they would need permisson?

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