The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 29 July 2011

Maske2g · Jul 29, 2011

tRiKS said:
in your opinion on all of that.

Ledley isn't a liablilty, he's a bonus.

Kaboul is good
Gallas will play 25+ league games ot a high standard

and we've got dawson

Corluka is not aweful. it's not his best posoition and he's weaker than those above but AWEFUL is a poor turn of phrase.

OK these are facts

Ledley's knee isn't going to miraculously get better. He will play less and less. It's pre season and he's already needed a knee op.

Gallas spent 10-15 minute limping around at the end of games. He is also not of an age where playing twice a week is gonna help him. He will not last forever.

Corluka isn't just an awful centre half, he is averarrge (double r) in his own position. A good defender, who is paceless, mildly creative and skillful but on an off day his passing can be so atrocious, to the point of the crowd wincing when he gets it.

This is opinion.

We have Dawson, who is good.
We have Kaboul, who is good.

Both are prone to a ricket, I cringe when Dawson is on the left, and I wouldn't be confident of our defence doing anything special if they had to play 20 games on the spin.

We wouldn't need a centre half if Bassong had been given the respect he deserved as a main stay in our 4th placed finish.

lenny7 · Jul 29, 2011

Stoof said:
You've all seen A Beautiful Mind, right? And if you look deep enough you'll eventually find something that's not there.

I don't think half the things people say are actually cryptic. You're just all so desperate for it to be. Stop it. Breathe.

errrrrr....

Sorry, I was just making a joke, is that allowed?

SlunkSoma · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Why are we not being accredited with interest in the press?
I just asked

Levy is being very adamant and insistent that our interest in players stays quiet. He is addressing clubs, agents and players. It seems the only one not listening is Harry. Lol
Vdv was a shock for most people, he is relying on that approach again.

Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

No Zigic?

ackie · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Why are we not being accredited with interest in the press?
I just asked

Levy is being very adamant and insistent that our interest in players stays quiet. He is addressing clubs, agents and players. It seems the only one not listening is Harry. Lol
Vdv was a shock for most people, he is relying on that approach again.

Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

Any news mate on...

shaqTHFC · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Why are we not being accredited with interest in the press?
I just asked

Levy is being very adamant and insistent that our interest in players stays quiet. He is addressing clubs, agents and players. It seems the only one not listening is Harry. Lol
Vdv was a shock for most people, he is relying on that approach again.

Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

that's reassuring then. thanks for asking.

SlunkSoma · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Why are we not being accredited with interest in the press?
I just asked

Levy is being very adamant and insistent that our interest in players stays quiet. He is addressing clubs, agents and players. It seems the only one not listening is Harry. Lol
Vdv was a shock for most people, he is relying on that approach again.

Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

So it WAS us who bid €80m for Hulk. Knew it. B&Y bitches

marvel · Jul 29, 2011

Maybe that is why POTL is being so quiet

cockeral · Jul 29, 2011

I have a feeling may of you will be surprised next couple of weeks.

ackie · Jul 29, 2011

cockeral said:
I have a feeling may of you will be surprised next couple of weeks.

and it will be good surprises...

Courtneyjd · Jul 29, 2011

cockeral said:
I have a feeling may of you will be surprised next couple of weeks.

ITK? :razz:

Of course it isn't! :cry:

Clamour_Kid · Jul 29, 2011

Courtneyjd said:
ITK? :razz:

Of course it isn't!

No. It isn't not cryptic. Eek

JUSTINSIGNAL · Jul 29, 2011

cockeral said:
I have a feeling may of you will be surprised next couple of weeks.

I hope you're right.

RJ1882 · Jul 29, 2011

cockeral said:
I have a feeling may of you will be surprised next couple of weeks.

Shouldn't be hard. Sign a bloody first team player and we'll all be surprised.
Ok... Back to my cider

SlunkSoma · Jul 29, 2011

I like how if you post on here with <100 posts people are like

".....wait, are you ITK"

Going stir crazy round here. It's all getting to'o much.

Dare! · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

So it's us who have had a bid rejected by Dundee United for David Goodwillie. Eek

marvel · Jul 29, 2011

cockeral does have a link to Levy in some way tho, had info in his holiday etc

haslemereyid · Jul 29, 2011

ryantegan said:
Why are we not being accredited with interest in the press?
I just asked

Levy is being very adamant and insistent that our interest in players stays quiet. He is addressing clubs, agents and players. It seems the only one not listening is Harry. Lol
Vdv was a shock for most people, he is relying on that approach again.

Basically if a club says they are speaking to an un-named team, be wary it might be us. If a club says they are speaking to tottenham, they probably are not

Dundee United turn down a bid from an un-named premier league club for David Goodwillie!!!!!

yido_number1 · Jul 29, 2011

haslemereyid said:
Dundee United turn down a bid from an un-named premier league club for David Goodwillie!!!!!

Maybe they were counting Blackpool who Mcoist confirmed bid as Prem League... That is probably Villa or Blackburn...

faze_coys · Jul 29, 2011

what is the latest ITK in relation to? what has he said previously?

tRiKS · Jul 29, 2011

Maske2g said:
OK these are facts

Ledley's knee isn't going to miraculously get better. He will play less and less. It's pre season and he's already needed a knee op.

Gallas spent 10-15 minute limping around at the end of games. He is also not of an age where playing twice a week is gonna help him. He will not last forever.

Corluka isn't just an awful centre half, he is averarrge (double r) in his own position. A good defender, who is paceless, mildly creative and skillful but on an off day his passing can be so atrocious, to the point of the crowd wincing when he gets it.

This is opinion.

We have Dawson, who is good.
We have Kaboul, who is good.

Both are prone to a ricket, I cringe when Dawson is on the left, and I wouldn't be confident of our defence doing anything special if they had to play 20 games on the spin.

We wouldn't need a centre half if Bassong had been given the respect he deserved as a main stay in our 4th placed finish.

not as many facts in there as you think matey

King: the op was planned months and months ago which he why he did pre-pre season sprint training before pre-season and during pre-season took part in the hig intensity sprint/recover/sprint drills for the first time in 4 years, something we should all be encouraged about.

His knee won't get better but his management of it has, he's said himself the knee wasn’t the issue last season it wasn’t the groin and thigh muscles. Now here’s a real fact. Chronic joint injuries produce a fluid, a fluid mostly made up of water which floods the area to protect the damage done, it is a fact that as your body gets used to the injury the amount of fluid partitioned to that area reduces. With Ledley’s knee the way he’s able to fine tune the exercises, ice and drug routine to cope with the pain/injury, so too his body will adapt and send less and less fluid on the knee. On occasion there will be more than normal but it will trend that there will be less and less.. his knee now will swell up less and for a shorter period of time than it did say 3 years ago.

You are correct in that his bone on bone contact will never get better BUT one of the symptoms (swelling) that reduces his motor movement and obstructs his selection, IS getting better.

Gallas limping in games isn’t as relevant as: did he play in them? did he play well? There’s no reason to expect anything less. Again though 25-30 games allows cover for the other 2 CB’s you graciously tagged as Good (I bet they are dancing in the street with your endorsement)

Corluka… well what you say is fact seems more like opinion. My opinion on him is he isn’t awful. I’ve said no more no less.

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