OmarsComing
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Not if the other team were 5.5's as well.
A draw would have been a fair result
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Not if the other team were 5.5's as well.
A draw would have been a fair result
mpickard2087
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I never said Walker wasnt at fault, that was bad from him fullstop.
I agree about Bale, I said in the match thread that he is partly culpable for the first two goals, his tracking of Silva was pathetic (pathetic would also sum up his performance before he scored, if he had continued like that I honestly would have been giving him a 3 in this game at best).
As for Kaboul, it would help if we had a midfield doing its job in front of him to stop a pass down the middle like that, but I still dont see how Dzeko was an immediate danger hat warranted stepping up out of the defensive line like that, if the ball goes to Dzeko's feet then be on your toes and push towards him as he receives it, but I think he tries to push out too quickly.
Bus-Conductor
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I can make a (not very strong) case for him humping it, just, but I just think his hump was poorly thought. It would have been hard to retain possession in our corner of the pitch if City had pressed up on us, but either way, as I said, it was a poor hump, even if humping was OK. It should have gone down the channel for Defoe to chase not straight down the middle where it was more likely to come straight back.
I'm not 100% convinced humping it was right, but where he humped it definitely wasn't.
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Kaboul 8 Bale 7 everybody else 6 except for Benny who gets 5.Hes the weak link in our defence, and just because hes a bit mental and a man of the people we shouldnt forget that.
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You can't just let their attacker have free possession in the final third of the pitch because if Walker had done his job then Silva wouldn't have had a release ball because Kaboul is doing his correctly, if he doesn't Silva could have played a one-two with the unmarked Dzeko and built something dangerous. If Walker does his job properly Silva has no outlet options because Kaboul shuts off Dzeko.
SoulDog
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To be fair they were the better side over all, they play some really nice football and you can see why they are at the top, yes we played some nice football in parts but never really looked a threat to late on. Everytime they come forward they looked like they were going to score, how they can just keep the ball around the box, there movement is good and there passing. We did work hard today and was unlucky but still felt City were more dangerous and more likely to score.
I am pleased we come back and did fight right to the end and was so unlucky not to get a point of even win the game. I am absoutley gutted and still think maybe with a different formation and different tactics we could of won that game!
I am pleased we come back and did fight right to the end and was so unlucky not to get a point of even win the game. I am absoutley gutted and still think maybe with a different formation and different tactics we could of won that game!
mpickard2087
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Friedel 6.5 - No fault for the goals. Made a couple of saves and smartly off his line a couple of times.
Walker 5 - Badly at fault for the opening goal, City got in behind him a few times.
Kaboul 6.5 - Dominant in the air, City got down the side of him a couple of times first half but not after that. I feel he didnt need to push out for the first goal and create the gap, others will disagree though.
King 6 - Was very solid until the 94th minute...
BAE 6 - I thought he was terrible the first 20 mins, then improved. Hindsight now tells us that it was the wrong decision to hoof it up the pitch going for a winner rather than letting the ball go out of play.
Lennon 5.5 - Didnt do enough for me.
Parker 6.5 - Battled well.
Modric 5.5 - Some nice passes as you expect, needed a bit more from him though.
Van der Vaart 5.5 - Quiet in possession, battled quite well in centre mid
Bale 6 - The Bale before the goal would have got no more than a 3, partly culpable for both goals and was enraging me with his flicks/tricks and general lack of effort. after the goal he looked full of running and looked more dangerous because for once he stuck to the left hand side primarily and looked to take on his man. Hopefully this is noted and we see him return to more of a left wing position, its where he is at his best.
Defoe 6 - Grabbed a goal, couldnt convert that chance at the end and also wasted the chance before it when he got in behind and then let the ball run away from him and lost it. Mixed bag.
Livermore 5.5 - Did his job reasonably well.
Pienaar n/a
Walker 5 - Badly at fault for the opening goal, City got in behind him a few times.
Kaboul 6.5 - Dominant in the air, City got down the side of him a couple of times first half but not after that. I feel he didnt need to push out for the first goal and create the gap, others will disagree though.
King 6 - Was very solid until the 94th minute...
BAE 6 - I thought he was terrible the first 20 mins, then improved. Hindsight now tells us that it was the wrong decision to hoof it up the pitch going for a winner rather than letting the ball go out of play.
Lennon 5.5 - Didnt do enough for me.
Parker 6.5 - Battled well.
Modric 5.5 - Some nice passes as you expect, needed a bit more from him though.
Van der Vaart 5.5 - Quiet in possession, battled quite well in centre mid
Bale 6 - The Bale before the goal would have got no more than a 3, partly culpable for both goals and was enraging me with his flicks/tricks and general lack of effort. after the goal he looked full of running and looked more dangerous because for once he stuck to the left hand side primarily and looked to take on his man. Hopefully this is noted and we see him return to more of a left wing position, its where he is at his best.
Defoe 6 - Grabbed a goal, couldnt convert that chance at the end and also wasted the chance before it when he got in behind and then let the ball run away from him and lost it. Mixed bag.
Livermore 5.5 - Did his job reasonably well.
Pienaar n/a
OmarsComing
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injured obv
punkisback
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Friedel 6- Could have commanded the box better, good rushing out at times
Walker 5 - Badly at fault for the opening goal, City got in behind him a few times.
Kaboul 6 Solid in the air
King 6 - Calm throughout; un Ledley like tackle in the last minute. The man has won us more games than he has lost. I cannot remember the last time he made an error
BAE 6 - Bad decision making today. Didn't seem as calmed and composed compared to usual
Lennon 6.5 good dribbling in the city box but didn't really have the support he needed.
Parker 5.5 didn't get near a city player at all and slowed down play by not passing quicker. Good headed tackle on Richards.
Modric 6.5 decent passing worked very hard but he is not a DM
Van der Vaart 6 good balls to begin with but faded.
Bale 6 - Brilliant goal, rubbish in the first half good in the second
Defoe 6 - Well taken goal, should have done better on the last chance
Livermore 6 Hassled well, passed tidily. Lost possession once
Pienaar - What was the point of this subsitution?
In the end we were outnumbered in CM. City's widemen come inside and make it a 3 man Am, whilst Milner and Barry held.Thats all 5 men in the centre. We played with 2 AM and parker holding and we leave ourselves wide open. City can rely on Barry or Milner to recycle possession quickly and in a forward direction. We couldn't get near a City man, and when we did have possession we isolated the midfield from the defence.
Walker 5 - Badly at fault for the opening goal, City got in behind him a few times.
Kaboul 6 Solid in the air
King 6 - Calm throughout; un Ledley like tackle in the last minute. The man has won us more games than he has lost. I cannot remember the last time he made an error
BAE 6 - Bad decision making today. Didn't seem as calmed and composed compared to usual
Lennon 6.5 good dribbling in the city box but didn't really have the support he needed.
Parker 5.5 didn't get near a city player at all and slowed down play by not passing quicker. Good headed tackle on Richards.
Modric 6.5 decent passing worked very hard but he is not a DM
Van der Vaart 6 good balls to begin with but faded.
Bale 6 - Brilliant goal, rubbish in the first half good in the second
Defoe 6 - Well taken goal, should have done better on the last chance
Livermore 6 Hassled well, passed tidily. Lost possession once
Pienaar - What was the point of this subsitution?
In the end we were outnumbered in CM. City's widemen come inside and make it a 3 man Am, whilst Milner and Barry held.Thats all 5 men in the centre. We played with 2 AM and parker holding and we leave ourselves wide open. City can rely on Barry or Milner to recycle possession quickly and in a forward direction. We couldn't get near a City man, and when we did have possession we isolated the midfield from the defence.
Friedel: 7. Occasionally a little shaky on corners but otherwise superb.
Walker: 5. Didn't provide a great deal of attacking threat, lost Nasri for the first and Lescott for the second.
Kaboul-8. Mountain.
King-6.5. Would have been higher.
BAE- 5. One of his worst performances this season imo. Attacking play also quite poor, seemed scared of Richards at times, stupidly kept on hoofing the ball which came back to bite us right on the ass in the 94th minute.
Lennon-6. Provided an outlet and had some good runs. Final ball was poor though and was disappointed he didn't run at Clichy more, who looked very nervous.
Parker-7. Broke up play quite well. Still don't like him rushing ahead of Modric though; whether that is him or Redknapp telling him to do it, he needs to stop
Modric-6.5. Should have done more but wasn't bad by any means.
Bale-7.5. Appalling first half, excellent second half. Was at the heart of all our attacking moves and seemed like he really wanted first the draw and then the win.
VDV-6. Oh dear. Drifted to an extreme amount today and, as expected, left Defoe completely isolated. Was selfish when he did get it in good positions. Expected more from him today.
Defoe-6. Hard to rate. Scored, should have scored but was almost completely anonymous for long periods. But I don't blame him for that. I said before the match that if VDV kept on dropping ridiculously deep and Bale went drifting too, he'd be left alone.
Overall, proud of the players. And very good omens for the run of away games including Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. None of them should be as tough as that game was and we will have Ade back too.
Walker: 5. Didn't provide a great deal of attacking threat, lost Nasri for the first and Lescott for the second.
Kaboul-8. Mountain.
King-6.5. Would have been higher.
BAE- 5. One of his worst performances this season imo. Attacking play also quite poor, seemed scared of Richards at times, stupidly kept on hoofing the ball which came back to bite us right on the ass in the 94th minute.
Lennon-6. Provided an outlet and had some good runs. Final ball was poor though and was disappointed he didn't run at Clichy more, who looked very nervous.
Parker-7. Broke up play quite well. Still don't like him rushing ahead of Modric though; whether that is him or Redknapp telling him to do it, he needs to stop
Modric-6.5. Should have done more but wasn't bad by any means.
Bale-7.5. Appalling first half, excellent second half. Was at the heart of all our attacking moves and seemed like he really wanted first the draw and then the win.
VDV-6. Oh dear. Drifted to an extreme amount today and, as expected, left Defoe completely isolated. Was selfish when he did get it in good positions. Expected more from him today.
Defoe-6. Hard to rate. Scored, should have scored but was almost completely anonymous for long periods. But I don't blame him for that. I said before the match that if VDV kept on dropping ridiculously deep and Bale went drifting too, he'd be left alone.
Overall, proud of the players. And very good omens for the run of away games including Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. None of them should be as tough as that game was and we will have Ade back too.
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Thought Friedel was decent, as was Kaboul, Parker and Bale in the second half. One of the few things Coleman said (pronounced) right was that we were better than them in the second half.
Difficult to do ratings when I still feel like I've been fucked by an elephant.
Difficult to do ratings when I still feel like I've been fucked by an elephant.
DiamondLites
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King was magnificent, first mistimed tackle of his career on a weasel that should have been off the pitch in disgrace
Him and Kaboul were our best players by a distance
Him and Kaboul were our best players by a distance
sloth
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Bloody hell. Anyone would think we'd been totally out played looking at those ratings. All I can think is people's expectations were far too high.
We've just gone to the team which lead the PL, and who have won every game at home, had a right good go, and in the end only random chance dictated whether we came away with 0, 1 or 3 points.
We should be gutted, but surely also proud?
Can I also say that all this unsavoury, over-analysis of single moments in the game, when so and so could have done this or didn't do that, is a bit pathetic.
We've just gone to the team which lead the PL, and who have won every game at home, had a right good go, and in the end only random chance dictated whether we came away with 0, 1 or 3 points.
We should be gutted, but surely also proud?
Can I also say that all this unsavoury, over-analysis of single moments in the game, when so and so could have done this or didn't do that, is a bit pathetic.
