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gibbospurs

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Seemingly the only way this club scouts players. God forbid they paid some slightly overwieght men to go and watch these guys occasionally. Before they make their big moves to a European club and start banging in goals.

I can scout Willian, Leandro etc and I know sweet FA.
I have known about this guy!! im no scout, i just googled euro top goal scorers, this was before xmas. and there he was.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Now people are mentioning some guy called Adam Szalai who is shit! 17 goals in 52 games.

Is that just league goals? I only ask because before this season, Defoe had only scored 15 goals in his previous 47 matches.. That added to this season puts him on 25 goals in his last 69 games. Is Defoe shit too?

How about Adebayor? 25 goals in his last 68 matches. Is Adebayor shit too?

What kind of service is this Szalai fella getting? Is his team creating the 30+ chances per game that we created against Villa & Reading etc? Is he getting the same sort of quality service that Lennon & Bale provide on a weekly basis?

I think it's far too easy to say a player is shit, just because his stats don't suit your personal taste.

By the way, there's this one player I really like. Between 2003 & 2007 he scored 13 goals in 100 appearances. Then between 2008 & 2011 he scored 15 goals in 103 matches. So that's a pathetic 28 goals in 203 matches but I'd be mad to want him because, based upon what you use to judge a player, he's shit!! Fair comment?

By the way, that player is called Michu.. Get my point mate?
 

nedley

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Roll your eyes all you want but while people who have been right in the past say he's a target, I'm not impressed. Does 17 in 52 strike you as the kind of striker we need?

It's very narrow minded of you to just dismiss a player just on his goals to game ratio.
 
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So Liverpool have got Sturridge hes got 2 in 2, Chelsea got Ba hes grabbed a couple, Newcastle look like their getting Remy for £7m he looks decent at that price, what will we get...........................Nish nada zero zilch Levy i think it time to put up or do one.

Last window in jan you gave us Saha and Nelson i think your taking the piss old chap.
 

Breezer

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Why do i have a funny feeling we will sign Peter Odemwingie on the last day of transfers after failing to sign Llorente, Damiao, Villa, ohhh and Messi.
 

Rogmeister

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It's very narrow minded of you to just dismiss a player just on his goals to game ratio.

Quite true. I bet most people here would give Torres a run on the cheap and his record must be terrible at the moment!
 

nedley

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Is that just league goals? I only ask because before this season, Defoe had only scored 15 goals in his previous 47 matches.. That added to this season puts him on 25 goals in his last 69 games. Is Defoe shit too?

How about Adebayor? 25 goals in his last 68 matches. Is Adebayor shit too?

What kind of service is this Szalai fella getting? Is his team creating the 30+ chances per game that we created against Villa & Reading etc? Is he getting the same sort of quality service that Lennon & Bale provide on a weekly basis?

I think it's far too easy to say a player is shit, just because his stats don't suit your personal taste, or his stats don't suit your pallet.

By the way, there's this one player I really like. Between 2003 & 2007 he scored 13 goals in 100 appearances. Then between 2008 & 2011 he scored 15 goals in 103 matches. So that's a pathetic 28 goals in 203 matches but I'd be mad to want him because, based upon what you use to judge a player, he's shit!! Fair comment?

By the way, that player is called Michu.. Get my point mate?


WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Grey Fox

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Roll your eyes all you want but while people who have been right in the past say he's a target, I'm not impressed. Does 17 in 52 strike you as the kind of striker we need?

Can't be arsed to check, but I doubt Defoe's stats are much better, depending on when you compare.
 
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Is he free??? If not then it won't happen cant see Westbrom selling to us with 35 year installments and david pleats old brown suit thrown in for Clarke.
 

Franchise60

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I remember Harry saying the same thing 18 months or so ago.

He rated Pav above Suarez.

I fucking hate Suarez.

But I'd bloody love him at Spurs.

lol this isn't true

He didn't think Suarez would work with Rafa and we only had one big nut to spend on a striker. Might have been wrong not to sign him but let's not try and twist the truth too much.

Not sure we'd have spent 20+ million pounds on him anyway considering recent windows.
 

CowInAComa

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Nope. They paid (or are paying, if reports are to be believed) half of what we were (allegedly) quoted.

plus he's been awful, and injured since. not ridiculous that OM would accept far less and be eager to get the deal done.

Lucky escape as far as I am concerned. If AvB dont want him, thats good enough for me.
 

Sum Monsterism

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So Liverpool have got Sturridge hes got 2 in 2, Chelsea got Ba hes grabbed a couple, Newcastle look like their getting Remy for £7m he looks decent at that price, what will we get...........................Nish nada zero zilch Levy i think it time to put up or do one.

Last window in jan you gave us Saha and Nelson i think your taking the piss old chap.

yeah I hate that levy bought in those experienced players, the ones that the manager had nothing but praise for, and the way they helped us finish 4th.

DL you're soooooo not doing your job properly.:rolleyes:
 

razor1981

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Roll your eyes all you want but while people who have been right in the past say he's a target, I'm not impressed. Does 17 in 52 strike you as the kind of striker we need?

Yeah, 17 in 52 (average of 0.33 goals per game) sounds poor doesn't it?

Do you think we should really be going for someone like Leandro Damiao (average 0.39 goals per game (28 in 72)) or Fernando Llorente (0.32 goals per game (95 in 295)) instead?

Sometimes stats don't give the full picture.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Quite true. I bet most people here would give Torres a run on the cheap and his record must be terrible at the moment!

If AVB wasn't our manager, I'd take Torres in a heartbeat. People keep saying of Ade "form is temporary, class is permanent". Well, in my uneducated opinion, Torres has immeasurably more 'class' than Adebayor.
 
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