The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Lurkers & Begging Bowl Edition 12th August 2013

Ghost Hardware said:

I just can figure out why Bale is so desperate to leave now, he has only really had one season of consistently fantastic football due in no small part to AVB. He has the next 5/6 years to play in Spain if that's what he wants but why not stay for one more year and carry on the good work from last season. He will never be given the freedom at RM he will be allowed here. I understand the desire to play for one of the best clubs in the world but he's only 24, why rush out the door. And I'm not even going to mention all the family ties. I guess at least it's not Man U he wants to move to. I guess it's just sad as after a lot of talk at the end of last season about new contracts and the players we have been bringing in I almost managed to convince myself he would be staying long term. Now I need an update about Lamela and Vlad to cheer me up, was so happy when the goat mentioned those two.

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MunkoSpurs said:

Surely Bale would realise that if he has another season like he just has, Real would be just as keen to sign him next season. I don't understand all this now or never stuff.

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hodsgod said:

I understand your point, but what would you do if you were Bale? Bearing in mind you wouldn't be a Spurs supporter and you could get a career threatening injury at any time. Would you honestly wait at a smaller club, not much chance of winning anything etc.

I understand his attraction to Madrid completely. I have been in a similar place professionally and I took the new job, for clarity I should say it was a bloody disaster, but nonetheless I think I would do it again.

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dagraham said:

Have you actually seen him play the lone striker role? I can't recall any info on him suggesting he can. I've heard he has played as either a winger, a wide forward or a no. 10 role.

I think if we are to successfully challenge at the top end of the table we need to move away from the idea of players just "doing a job" and have genuine competition. Again, Bale could probably "do a job" there but playing with his back to goal is not his strong point and it would deprive the team of its biggest strength.

We need 3 genuine strikers IMO, which is why if Ade leaves, I hope we have a younger striker lined up who is more willing to be a squad memeber and bide their time.

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hodsgod said:

I understand your point, but what would you do if you were Bale? Bearing in mind you wouldn't be a Spurs supporter and you could get a career threatening injury at any time. Would you honestly wait at a smaller club, not much chance of winning anything etc.

I understand his attraction to Madrid completely. I have been in a similar place professionally and I took the new job, for clarity I should say it was a bloody disaster, but nonetheless I think I would do it again.

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Tit&Ham said:

JJ earlier claimed Bale is definately going[/B][/I]. There hasn't been much Bale news the last week - Good or bad thing?

Would be interesting to hear if anything has changed or not...

20 days left of the window - Nothing happening today. 19 days left... I think I will give my girlfriend a good round in the toilet-hole if he stays! Maybe even force an a**-to-mouth... Well, I am kissing those lips... Well, who gives a crap (!), I'll eat my own shit if he stays!

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welshyid5785 said:

Yes he probably does, and I said as much.

Loyalty does not exist in football. Simple as that. If Bale wanted to go, handed in a TR or whatever, I'd sell ASAP. Different players have different aspirations. And unfortunately for us our status means that any top quality players that come our way will want to leave eventually, when the giants come calling.

And I wouldn't say 'quick' to want JL to leave. I've wanted him gone since it became apparent he was not good enough, which was well over a year ago. Just as we are arguably below Bale's level (Modric, Carrick, Berbatov etc) we are above (WELL ABOVE in my opinion) Livermore's level.

I fail to see how loving Spurs should get you a contract with them regardless of ability. If that was the case we'd all be quids in.

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Franchise60 said:

The difference is he HAS a contract with spurs. Given to him by spurs. If he is happy here then not wanting to leave is his option. To say it makes you question him as an athlete/pro is out of order

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Tit&Ham said:

JJ earlier claimed Bale is definately going. There hasn't been much Bale news the last week - Good or bad thing?

Would be interesting to hear if anything has changed or not...

20 days left of the window - Nothing happening today. 19 days left... I think I will give my girlfriend a good round in the toilet-hole if he stays! Maybe even force an a**-to-mouth... Well, I am kissing those lips... Well, who gives a crap (!), I'll eat my own shit if he stays!

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Franchise60 said:

The difference is he HAS a contract with spurs. Given to him by spurs. If he is happy here then not wanting to leave is his option. To say it makes you question him as an athlete/pro is out of order

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$hoguN said:

He primarily plays an attacking midfield role but can also play out on both wings and in the hole. At a push he can play as a striker as he has a good first touch, is a good finisher and moves well. Dempsey didn't play as a striker but we still bought him with a view to filling that role in a pinch, and that is exactly what Chadli can do.

We also do not need three strikers, we just need two that fit the system. Soldado + another would give us good enough cover considering we have a very talented academy and squad players capable of playing that role. Unfortunately Defoe is as useful as a lone striker as a chocolate teapot, so we may end up with 3, however if both target men are injured we would still end up as f**ked with or without Defoe.

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Disconosebleed said:

From a personal and careerist point of view, I actually think Bale would be a little foolish not to take the chance to go to Madrid. Obviously I hope he stays, but objectively it makes little sense to me that he would want to stay. He's a top tier player, playing for a a third tier club. Even if we had qualified for the Champions League I would still have expected him to leave - in his career, we will never be able to offer him the platform to win the trophies he should be winning. That's before you even take into account money.

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• He will not be their star player and crowd favourite as that spot i taken (Ronaldo)
• He cannot speak the language - This is probably more of an issue than people think. Imagine working for a Company where only a few spoke your language and even understood what you are saying.
• He will have enormous expectations on his shoulders! The 100M+ tag would be used against him on every occasion

Archibald&Crooks said:

I think you'll have to wait until you're on a PC or something. The donate button is on thefront page to the right hand side. Cheers!

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CrazyKen said:

Donated..Again..Couldnt afford more then £5 today, more later..but i hope its enough to keep me safe from A&C's big pink one..

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HappySpur said:

I gave and all he said that earned me was the right to a dab of lube.

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ecce_tottenham said:

Verified?

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Tit&Ham said:

JJ earlier claimed Bale is definately going. There hasn't been much Bale news the last week - Good or bad thing?

Would be interesting to hear if anything has changed or not...

20 days left of the window - Nothing happening today. 19 days left... I think I will give my girlfriend a good round in the toilet-hole if he stays! Maybe even force an a**-to-mouth... Well, I am kissing those lips... Well, who gives a crap (!), I'll eat my own shit if he stays!

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