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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

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jonnyp

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Cheers, I missed that quote from Ossie. That's what I thought though, it's not La-MAY-la.
 

Snuzzy

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where the hell would we play Pjanic?!

If I was Holtby or Chadli I would be pissed off at this.

That said, Lamela goodness yes yes yesssss please
 

Snarfalicious

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where the hell would we play Pjanic?!

If I was Holtby or Chadli I would be pissed off at this.

That said, Lamela goodness yes yes yesssss please



I don't think this happens without us selling Bale, I'll preface this comment with that.

The only thing I can think of is that Pjanic could provide starting talent at three positions (LW, in the hole, AM/most advanced midfielder in the 4-3-3).

But, when we've already got Siggy who can do the same and Holtby who can cover in the hole/advanced midfielder, it seems like a waste of funds.

If we want him strictly as a LW to share duties with Chadli, it could make sense I assume.

LW: Pjanic and Chadli
AM: Holtby, Siggy
RW: Lamela, Townsend
 

ButchCassidy

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I don't think this happens without us selling Bale, I'll preface this comment with that.

The only thing I can think of is that Pjanic could provide starting talent at three positions (LW, in the hole, AM/most advanced midfielder in the 4-3-3).

But, when we've already got Siggy who can do the same and Holtby who can cover in the hole/advanced midfielder, it seems like a waste of funds.

If we want him strictly as a LW to share duties with Chadli, it could make sense I assume.

LW: Pjanic and Chadli
AM: Holtby, Siggy
RW: Lamela, Townsend


I think we view Holtby as more of a Dembele type midfielder than a true attacking mid
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I don't think this happens without us selling Bale, I'll preface this comment with that.

The only thing I can think of is that Pjanic could provide starting talent at three positions (LW, in the hole, AM/most advanced midfielder in the 4-3-3).

But, when we've already got Siggy who can do the same and Holtby who can cover in the hole/advanced midfielder, it seems like a waste of funds.

If we want him strictly as a LW to share duties with Chadli, it could make sense I assume.

LW: Pjanic and Chadli
AM: Holtby, Siggy
RW: Lamela, Townsend

It's not a waste of funds if Pjanic is a better player, which he is IMO.
 

Snarfalicious

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It's not a waste of funds if Pjanic is a better player, which he is IMO.


Granted, he might be. But if you were to ask me if I'd prefer to spend around 20m Euros on a possible upgrade on a player you already have or fill two major needs in CB/LB, I'm probably going with the CB/LB. If we get Lamela, a CB and a LB, we're a very well-rounded side. Even if Bale does depart.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Granted, he might be. But if you were to ask me if I'd prefer to spend around 20m Euros on a possible upgrade on a player you already have or fill two major needs in CB/LB, I'm probably going with the CB/LB. If we get Lamela, a CB and a LB, we're a very well-rounded side. Even if Bale does depart.

Yeah but thats assuming that the Pjanic rumour is true and the Alderweireld/Rami/any other defender we've been linked to are not true. There's been links to CB's just as there is a link to Pjanic, so to say if we sign Pjanic it would mean not spending in other area's is pure speculation. If you look at it on its own merits it makes sense, he's a top class player that will improve us, and personally I think we need a 'passer' of top quality if we want to compete higher than just 4th spot.
 

Snarfalicious

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Yeah but thats assuming that the Pjanic rumour is true and the Alderweireld/Rami/any other defender we've been linked to are not true. There's been links to CB's just as there is a link to Pjanic, so to say if we sign Pjanic it would mean not spending in others is pure speculation. If you look at it on its own merits it makes sense, he's a top class player that will improve us, and personally I think we need a 'passer' of top quality if we want to compete higher than just 4th spot.


That's fair enough. Obviously I'd love to get everything we need, I'm just trying to keep my feet on the ground.

As a side note, it was interesting looking at the stats between Lamela/Pjanic and Bale/Lennon...

Pjanic and Lamela each had 56 chances created last season.

Lamela averaged a chance created every 46 minutes.

Pjanic averaged a chance created every 30 minutes.

Our leading 'chance creators' were Bale with 75 (one chance/39 minutes) and Lennon with 66 (one chance/42 minutes).

It's not exactly fair to compare goals/assists between these two sets of players as Bale went absolutely crazy in terms of goals and we're not going to replace that with one player this offseason. But, it's not crazy to think that with Pjanic we could emulate the 'chance creator' that Bale presented and Lamela could offer us the goal-scoring talent from out wide. Personally, I'd like to see Chadli, Pjanic and Lamela in behind Solado.

By doing that, we could let Pjanic do what he does best and set others up for goal scoring chances. If Lamela/Chadli could put together 20+ goals combined, to pair with Soldado, we might be okay in the long run.

By playing that attacking 4 and rotating Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Dembele and Holtby we could really set our team for opponents and still give us enough presence in midfield to hold up against even the strongest of opponents.
 

ItsBoris

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I don't think this happens without us selling Bale, I'll preface this comment with that.

The only thing I can think of is that Pjanic could provide starting talent at three positions (LW, in the hole, AM/most advanced midfielder in the 4-3-3).

But, when we've already got Siggy who can do the same and Holtby who can cover in the hole/advanced midfielder, it seems like a waste of funds.

If we want him strictly as a LW to share duties with Chadli, it could make sense I assume.

LW: Pjanic and Chadli
AM: Holtby, Siggy
RW: Lamela, Townsend


If the combined price is 47m euros, then that's £40 million. If we are paying 30 million for Lamela, then it would be an additional 10 million for Pjanic. Imo, it would mean selling Gylfi to raise the funds. Then the question is whether Pjanic is better, which idk. There's not much difference in terms of productiveness, though I know that both players have made many of their appearances off the bench.

I think Pjanic could probably give us creativity from midfield, but I'd be surprised if he was a starter there ahead of our other players. But his utility/ability to play in multiple positions could give him a lot of game time.
 

TheAmerican

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If the combined price is 47m euros, then that's £40 million. If we are paying 30 million for Lamela, then it would be an additional 10 million for Pjanic. Imo, it would mean selling Gylfi to raise the funds. Then the question is whether Pjanic is better, which idk. There's not much difference in terms of productiveness, though I know that both players have made many of their appearances off the bench.

I think Pjanic could probably give us creativity from midfield, but I'd be surprised if he was a starter there ahead of our other players. But his utility/ability to play in multiple positions could give him a lot of game time.

40m for the two is a steal. The best scenario would be to bring them both and let AVB decide who he will play and sell. I do think we will keep Sig before a few others.
 
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