No mention of the cup games eh?
Reading this thread merely serves as a reminder that the human race is (slowly), and ultimately will, divide into 2 sub-species (either by natural selection - see Dr Oliver Curry LSE, or by genetic engineering). The degree to which such limited analysis is thrown around in all walks of everyday life, where a quick headline or statistic is wholly absorbed as fact, is truly depressing and frightening.
I appreciate this is a football rather than an academic forum, where our passion for the club is of utmost importance; however can I just explore some of you to stop a moment and just take a breath before committing to your opinions. You all have the information and the potential available to form better conclusions, not just about football, but in life in general. Don't subscribe to the voluntary consciousness modern media and politics conditions you to. Yes I know, not as much fun!
Been a long week, with the aforementioned sentiments playing a leading role. I didn't ever expect to pontificate on such topics here, however this thread just encapsulated something that has been on my mind. Apologies if I have bored, offended or confused anyone (the latter an attempt at mild satire of course).
Poor mites, bet they are all crying about being singled out..........until they cash their weekly cheque that is.....soft fucking drama queens.
Reading this thread merely serves as a reminder that the human race is (slowly), and ultimately will, divide into 2 sub-species (either by natural selection - see Dr Oliver Curry LSE, or by genetic engineering). The degree to which such limited analysis is thrown around in all walks of everyday life, where a quick headline or statistic is wholly absorbed as fact, is truly depressing and frightening.
I appreciate this is a football rather than an academic forum, where our passion for the club is of utmost importance; however can I just implore some of you to stop a moment and just take a breath before committing to your opinions. You all have the information and the potential available to form better conclusions, not just about football, but in life in general. Don't subscribe to the voluntary consciousness modern media and politics conditions you to. Yes I know, not as much fun!
Been a long week, with the aforementioned sentiments playing a leading role. I didn't ever expect to pontificate on such topics here, however this thread just encapsulated something that has been on my mind. Apologies if I have bored, offended or confused anyone (the latter an attempt at mild satire of course).
Tim Sherwood: Position untenable. It's obvious this has been coming for at least the last month. He should have been put on gardening leave and moved as far away from the first team as possible to limit the damage he's already done. I'm sure between Steffen and Ramsey we could have coped easily.
It would have stopped this circus dead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever......are you a Timist or anti-Timist? hehe (jesting, of course)
Yep - being told condescendingly to pull my head out of my ass unfortunately got me very riled up indeed. I'm afraid I would have been leaving my studs up had we been on a pitch.
Apologies if I have offended anyone apart from the person to whom that childish insult was addressed
Yep - being told condescendingly to pull my head out of my ass unfortunately got me very riled up indeed. I'm afraid I would have been leaving my studs up had we been on a pitch.
Apologies if I have offended anyone apart from the person to whom that childish insult was addressed
I think a comparison between AVB's and Sherwood's cup results is not going to tell us very much. AVB won 10 consecutive cup games, but they were mainly against very weak opposition. The point at which he was sacked coincided with our Europa League opposition becoming tougher and also more serious opposition in the domestic cups. I don't see any reason to assume that we would have beaten West Ham, Arsenal and Benfica in the cups with AVB still in place.
I think a comparison between AVB's and Sherwood's cup results is not going to tell us very much. AVB won 10 consecutive cup games, but they were mainly against very weak opposition. The point at which he was sacked coincided with our Europa League opposition becoming tougher and also more serious opposition in the domestic cups. I don't see any reason to assume that we would have beaten West Ham, Arsenal and Benfica in the cups with AVB still in place.
Whilst I generally agree with your opinion I have to disagree on this point. AB didn't chose the level of opposition he was pitted against and could only beat what was in front of him. Removing certain opposition from the sample group is quite selective and leaves the any comparison open to criticism of bias
If I had included the cup matches in the original analysis, then I would have had the usual suspects replying that 'it's the league results that count'. You can't please everyone and, in the case of statistics, you generally can't please anyone.
I'm reasonably confident, based on a succession of wins using Sherwood's more chaotic/adventurous approach against Premiership sides containing inferior players, that our superior players would have beaten the teams in our Europa League group under either manager - and that we would have lost to Benfica under either manager, because they're better than we are.
Against West Ham and Arsenal, who knows? It's a cliché that any Premiership team can beat any other on a given day.
It may be a personal preference but I enjoy watching a Spurs team that had been well drilled and knows exactly how they are supposed to be attacking (whether that be slow possession based or faster counter attacking) rather than one that looks like the players are having to pull out a stroke of personal ingenuity to get the goal. Even harry's team had more direction than what we have seen
I'd say we should beat Ajax - our players are just better than them.
I don't even want to imagine a scoreline with FdB's Spurs against Tim's Ajax! Stupid question anyway - Tim would get sacked halfway through the game for playing his demented 4-4-2, instead of Ajax's well-worked 4-3-3.
It may be a personal preference but I enjoy watching a Spurs team that had been well drilled and knows exactly how they are supposed to be attacking (whether that be slow possession based or faster counter attacking) rather than one that looks like the players are having to pull out a stroke of personal ingenuity to get the goal. Even harry's team had more direction than what we have seen