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It does raise questions about this guy. Is he really any good!!
Read the full article at Evening Standard
Read the full article at Evening Standard
Well I for 1 am hoping he has Levy's ear for the next head coach
I'd say levy is in a position a lot more complex than you give him credit for.I hope he has more to do with the next appointment than Levy. If Levy were only a Chairman he would have been sacked for the number of managers he has appointed that haven't made the grade. It has to raise questions over his decision making ability as regards personnel.
I'd say levy is in a position a lot more complex than you give him credit for.
I'd say 1 in 100 working managers around the world are capable of great things. An elite few.
Of those 10% probably 60% are already in the top jobs, Wenger, Fergie(pensioner) Ancelotti, Guardiola, Mourinho, Rogers, Klopp, Loew,
They're entirely unattainable for us.
Then there's a second tier. The May be greats. This is pond levy can fish in. He can cast his line and he might pick a tiddler, he might land something special.
So far dear old Daniel has cast his line numerous times into this pond and, despite lots of hope, he's landed the shit left behind by the tiddlers.
He's just going to have to keep casting that line, seeing what he's got, then throwing it back if it transpires it's garbage. Which invariably it is.
Then there's a second tier. The May be greats. This is pond levy can fish in. He can cast his line and he might pick a tiddler, he might land something special.
So far dear old Daniel has cast his line numerous times into this pond and, despite lots of hope, he's landed the shit left behind by the tiddlers.
He's just going to have to keep casting that line, seeing what he's got, then throwing it back if it transpires it's garbage. Which invariably it is.
Who is there in the world that can guarantee that our next appointment will be a success?I appreciate my argument is a little (?) simplistic and, if I'm being honest, it's said more in frustration than my genuine view. I know he has done wonders with the club finances and I think we would be in real trouble without him. I do just wish he would stay out of the football matters and let those who have more experience in such matters get on with it.
Who is there in the world that can guarantee that our next appointment will be a success?
Even Fergie Fucked up his recommendation for his replacement.
I'd say levy is in a position a lot more complex than you give him credit for.
I'd say 1 in 100 working managers around the world are capable of great things. An elite few.
Of those 10% probably 60% are already in the top jobs, Wenger, Fergie(pensioner) Ancelotti, Guardiola, Mourinho, Rogers, Klopp, Loew,
They're entirely unattainable for us.
Then there's a second tier. The May be greats. This is pond levy can fish in. He can cast his line and he might pick a tiddler, he might land something special.
So far dear old Daniel has cast his line numerous times into this pond and, despite lots of hope, he's landed the shit left behind by the tiddlers.
He's just going to have to keep casting that line, seeing what he's got, then throwing it back if it transpires it's garbage. Which invariably it is.
I hope he has more to do with the next appointment than Levy. If Levy were only a Chairman he would have been sacked for the number of managers he has appointed that haven't made the grade. It has to raise questions over his decision making ability as regards personnel.
Easily overlooked by people with their scattergun or who just want to point blame but their argument doesn't really stand up.
Considering also every one of those dismissal's and appointments have been lauded by various sections of our supporters. Mr Levy cant seem to do right for all his good intentions...........
Roynie ,
Levy even sacks the ones who do make the grade , eg Harry .
If Levy had of been manager during Keith Burkenshaws first year when we got relegated there is no way Keith would have been retained .
How long would Bill Nich have lasted under Levy ? 9 months ? Not even that ?
About the only difference would have been that there wouldn't have been an official site to publish the clubs statements .
I'd say levy is in a position a lot more complex than you give him credit for.
I'd say 1 in 100 working managers around the world are capable of great things. An elite few.
Of those 10% probably 60% are already in the top jobs, Wenger, Fergie(pensioner) Ancelotti, Guardiola, Mourinho, Rogers, Klopp, Loew,
They're entirely unattainable for us.
Then there's a second tier. The May be greats. This is pond levy can fish in. He can cast his line and he might pick a tiddler, he might land something special.
So far dear old Daniel has cast his line numerous times into this pond and, despite lots of hope, he's landed the shit left behind by the tiddlers.
He's just going to have to keep casting that line, seeing what he's got, then throwing it back if it transpires it's garbage. Which invariably it is.
Rogers was attainable when at Swansea. He was in that pond I mentioned. He's since gone to Liverpool, after turning down spurs, and, having very very nearly winning the title, playing spectacular football, put himself week in the higher echelon of football manager credibility.You need to work on your maths - 1 in 100 is 1% not 10%
I don't think Levy's position is complex at all. He wants instant success much the same way that Abramovich wanted to win the Champions League. Obviously the scale of the relative success is different between the two however their attitude is the same. I honestly believe Levy thinks it's just a numbers game and one of these appointments will be a success but it's not working. Every manager he appoints and sacks means a decent, established manager is less likely to come to the club creating a downward spiral and a smaller pond to fish in - using your own analogy. This also means that the club is always in a constant flux with players and we never have an established, bedded in team. One manager takes on another managers players, fails, next manager buys a shedload of players, fails to get them playing together in the restricted timeframe allowed by DL and is sacked and so it continues.
I'm puzzled about the names you mentioned there as well - Wenger, Ancellotti, Mourinho, Fergie (who is not in a management position), Guardiola most people would agree with but the others are not so clear cut in my opinion. What elevates them above a whole host of other names doing well with their current clubs? Rodgers? Spurs could have appointed him when he joined Liverpool so he's not that unattainable he just doesn't want to come to a club with our horrific track record of sacking managers. He did well with Swansea and then finished 7th with Liverpool last season, lower than we finished this season. He was given a chance and finished second but what makes him more capable of being great than anyone else? Kevin Keegan famously finished second with Newcastle and look at the heady managerial heights he achieved......
Low - 10 years as a club coach winning the Austrian league once I believe. Next 10 years managing Germany, winning nothing but continuing their historical knack of qualifying and getting to the later rounds of tournaments. He's a decent coach obviously but what elevates him to this capable of greatness you're talking of?
I think these tiers you mention are more simply categorised as good, established managers (of which there are a few as you rightly say) then those with the potential to be good manager of which there are quite a lot and then the others.
Levy's endless fishing for instant success will strangle Spurs until the only way we can appoint a decent manager is by throwing ridiculous amounts of cash at them which is not what Levy is about. All of those established managers above have been given time at their various clubs and/or have been appointed when the clubs are already doing relatively well.
I think Levy has to change his approach or hand the reins to someone else.
Having said all of that - this next appointment could be the one so fingers crossed and all that
Rogers was attainable when at Swansea. He was in that pond I mentioned. He's since gone to Liverpool, after turning down spurs, and, having very very nearly winning the title, playing spectacular football, put himself week in the higher echelon of football manager credibility.
Klopp is one of the most sought after club managers in world football.
Loew has transformed Germany from on the edge of disaster back to perinial challengers. Should he ever indicate a desire to go to club management, he'd be in as high demand as Van Gaal.
As for Fergie, you can't talk about great managers of the modern era and not mention him. I clearly noted he's retired, but if he wasn't, he'd be unattainable. He even turned us down before United and we were arguably better than them back then.
Yes, my maths were out. I was eating chicken and noodles at lakeside and wasn't concentrating.
You need to work on your maths - 1 in 100 is 1% not 10%
I don't think Levy's position is complex at all. He wants instant success much the same way that Abramovich wanted to win the Champions League. Obviously the scale of the relative success is different between the two however their attitude is the same. I honestly believe Levy thinks it's just a numbers game and one of these appointments will be a success but it's not working. Every manager he appoints and sacks means a decent, established manager is less likely to come to the club creating a downward spiral and a smaller pond to fish in - using your own analogy. This also means that the club is always in a constant flux with players and we never have an established, bedded in team. One manager takes on another managers players, fails, next manager buys a shedload of players, fails to get them playing together in the restricted timeframe allowed by DL and is sacked and so it continues.
I'm puzzled about the names you mentioned there as well - Wenger, Ancellotti, Mourinho, Fergie (who is not in a management position), Guardiola most people would agree with but the others are not so clear cut in my opinion. What elevates them above a whole host of other names doing well with their current clubs? Rodgers? Spurs could have appointed him when he joined Liverpool so he's not that unattainable he just doesn't want to come to a club with our horrific track record of sacking managers. He did well with Swansea and then finished 7th with Liverpool last season, lower than we finished this season. He was given a chance and finished second but what makes him more capable of being great than anyone else? Kevin Keegan famously finished second with Newcastle and look at the heady managerial heights he achieved......
Low - 10 years as a club coach winning the Austrian league once I believe. Next 10 years managing Germany, winning nothing but continuing their historical knack of qualifying and getting to the later rounds of tournaments. He's a decent coach obviously but what elevates him to this capable of greatness you're talking of?
I think these tiers you mention are more simply categorised as good, established managers (of which there are a few as you rightly say) then those with the potential to be good manager of which there are quite a lot and then the others.
Levy's endless fishing for instant success will strangle Spurs until the only way we can appoint a decent manager is by throwing ridiculous amounts of cash at them which is not what Levy is about. All of those established managers above have been given time at their various clubs and/or have been appointed when the clubs are already doing relatively well.
I think Levy has to change his approach or hand the reins to someone else.
Having said all of that - this next appointment could be the one so fingers crossed and all that