What our opponents' fans are saying

Everlasting Seconds · Jan 29, 2015

We should dub this thread "What our fans are saying, about any topic there is".

tommo84 · Jan 29, 2015

haxman said:
Ah, they're a rare breed, Liverpool fans. Even the more level headed ones, like my mate who yesterday said that Sterling is the best player in the league. I didn't expect that kind of guff from him.

Working with Liverpool fans, and having a few in the family, has shown me that Liverpool fans are quite a lot like Newcastle fans once were. Individually they can appear quite rational (although there is always a bias and a real reluctance to credit other teams). However, whereas a group of Newcastle fans would simply bounce off each other's irrational optimism without hurting anyone but themselves, put a few Liverpool fans together and their biased, arrogant distorted view of the world rapidly snowballs and within a couple of minutes they've convinced themselves that it doesn't matter where they finish in the league because whoever finishes top will hand the title over to them simply because they are Liverpool, and its rude and completely disrespectful of any other team to dare to even challenge for it.

Donki · Jan 29, 2015

Geyzer Soze said:
Hence, perhaps, Eriksen's ability to pull off a winner in the dying minutes so often? Just a thought. But he does have about the calmest head in top flight football it seems. He never looks flustered, strokes the ball in, never putting more on it than is required to do the job ... calmness personified for the most part.

Maybe i'm talking bollocks, it's jsut struck me when you said that that that might be a part of the reason he seems to be able to pull someting off in the dying (stressful) minutes. Clear head.

He looks high a lot of the time.

225 · Jan 29, 2015

Good old RAWK

I hate Chelsea but i hate Spurs. Not sure who i would rather see win it.

Spurs, Chelsea are completely contemptible if we played anti football like they do the media would be on our backs, but as they're a London club it's ok & remember there booing the minutes silence for Hillsborough.

tommo84 · Jan 29, 2015

225 said:
Good old RAWK

Well, we've never booed the minute's silence for Hillsborough (although some of our fans chanted from the concourse throughout it last year sadly), and not sure how anyone could describe what we do as anti-football. Nor Chelsea this season - I hate them but Hazard is brilliant to watch and Fabregas is equally impressive. Even when we're not playing well and lack cutting edge we still play large chunks of the game in the opponents' half!

225 · Jan 29, 2015

tommo84 said:
Well, we've never booed the minute's silence for Hillsborough (although some of our fans chanted from the concourse throughout it last year sadly), and not sure how anyone could describe what we do as anti-football. Nor Chelsea this season - I hate them but Hazard is brilliant to watch and Fabregas is equally impressive. Even when we're not playing well and lack cutting edge we still play large chunks of the game in the opponents' half!

I know - hence why they're so funny!

SheffieldAndy · Jan 29, 2015

To be fair, the second quoted poster I think is saying he'd prefer Spurs to win, and then listing the reasons why he'd prefer that Chelsea didn't. His reasoning may be off but I like his conclusion

Sir Henry · Jan 29, 2015

StartingPrice said:
What would the odds have been, in a city that size, for a whole generation of babies to have been dropped on their heads within the first few years of life?

In Liverpool ? probably 8/11 on

VegasII · Jan 29, 2015

tommo84 said:
Working with Liverpool fans, and having a few in the family, has shown me that Liverpool fans are quite a lot like Newcastle fans once were. Individually they can appear quite rational (although there is always a bias and a real reluctance to credit other teams). However, whereas a group of Newcastle fans would simply bounce off each other's irrational optimism without hurting anyone but themselves, put a few Liverpool fans together and their biased, arrogant distorted view of the world rapidly snowballs and within a couple of minutes they've convinced themselves that it doesn't matter where they finish in the league because whoever finishes top will hand the title over to them simply because they are Liverpool, and its rude and completely disrespectful of any other team to dare to even challenge for it.

While shouting "Shearer! Shearer! Shearer!" ??

allpaths · Jan 29, 2015

225 said:
Hardly the same - you saw Jan's wig bounce when he got a nut from Zozulya.

Plenty of people have said that it wouldn't hurt, so I've offered to demonstrate and play the role of Zozulya - soon change their mind after they realise an innocent looking 'butt like that can actually hurt more.

Vertonghen had his hand on the guy's shoulder last night, so unless he has practiced the vulcan neck pinch then there's no reason at all why anyone would drop to the floor.

i didnt say it wasnt a red but jan did overplay it looked like he got shot the way he went down, what jan did to the sheffield player was close to going over and being a red but wasnt. All i said was that it reminded me not that it was like for like

allpaths · Jan 29, 2015

225 said:
I think it's why he should be captain.

I'd rather Jan than Michael "I'll get me dad on yer" Dawson or Younes "Wasn't my fault" Kaboul.

Nearly every successful team has a captain who has fire in his belly and is the first to step in to a battle (in any metaphorical sense). We've been missing that for quite a while, if you ask me.

I Daws was a wonderful captain other than his inability to fit into our playing style

225 · Jan 29, 2015

allpaths said:
I Daws was a wonderful captain other than his inability to fit into our playing style

and Gazza would be a wonderful landlord, other than his inability to stay off the stock.

When Jan got heatbutted, all Daws did was shove people around - that could have got him into trouble too. In fairness to Ade, he's the only one who stepped in with the maturity to calm it all down. It's an example of how you only ever knew he was captain by the black band on his arm - He seems a nice guy, but I never really felt that he had any natural influence on the team. Jan is just passion incarnate this season.

225 · Jan 29, 2015

allpaths said:
i didnt say it wasnt a red but jan did overplay it looked like he got shot the way he went down, what jan did to the sheffield player was close to going over and being a red but wasnt. All i said was that it reminded me not that it was like for like

I don't see how it could remind you. People tend to drop when they've taken a skull to the temple, but not when they put a hand on their shoulder.

I think Basham mistook him for Benny Hinn for a moment...

SheffieldAndy · Jan 29, 2015

Yes, he did overreact disgracefully, but it's plain from the clip in the vine posted that his hand (most notably, his fingers and thumb) wasn't on the guy's shoulder.

allpaths · Jan 29, 2015

225 said:
and Gazza would be a wonderful landlord, other than his inability to stay off the stock.

When Jan got heatbutted, all Daws did was shove people around - that could have got him into trouble too. In fairness to Ade, he's the only one who stepped in with the maturity to calm it all down. It's an example of how you only ever knew he was captain by the black band on his arm - He seems a nice guy, but I never really felt that he had any natural influence on the team. Jan is just passion incarnate this season.

i agree dawson was never able to get his teammates to show the same passion and commitment that he showed but i think that more damning on the type of weak fragile mentality the squad had at the the time. I do believe there is more than one way to be a good captain unfortunately Daws was a professional captain that lead or tried to lead by example which didnt work for this group since they needed somebody to get in there faces and challenge them. And Jan was part of the problem last year, he didn't know how to handle things when things went to hell and he mentally gave up on the team last year, not that I blame him last year was embarrassing. This year has been sparked more by the emergence of the passion from the youth more than anything Jan has done who is just enjoying his football once again. Personally I think Mason, Kane, Bentaleb and Lloris are the leadership in the squad and everybody else are following there lead. And on the headbutt ive been in many little friendly skirmishes with my older brother where weve accidentally bumped heads and yeah they hurt for a while but they never leave me rolling around on the floor.

225 · Jan 29, 2015

allpaths said:
i agree dawson was never able to get his teammates to show the same passion and commitment that he showed but i think that more damning on the type of weak fragile mentality the squad had at the the time. I do believe there is more than one way to be a good captain unfortunately Daws was a professional captain that lead or tried to lead by example which didnt work for this group since they needed somebody to get in there faces and challenge them. And Jan was part of the problem last year, he didn't know how to handle things when things went to hell and he mentally gave up on the team last year, not that I blame him last year was embarrassing. This year has been sparked more by the emergence of the passion from the youth more than anything Jan has done who is just enjoying his football once again. Personally I think Mason, Kane, Bentaleb and Lloris are the leadership in the squad and everybody else are following there lead.

I don't really blame Vertonghen - I, like most people will, have experienced working a team where your manage is a complete prat, and the senior member of your team is also a complete lettuce.

The fact that the squad hasn't changed too much, but the mood has, will most definitely be down to the hierarchy. The job of a captain is to try and lift the team when they need a boost and, unfortunately, Dawson tried to on many occasion but just isn't a patch on Hugo/Jan. You've got to respect the guy with the armband, believe in him and - some times - be scared of him. Daws was a fantastic servant to the club, but I don't think he was the best captain we have had.

allpaths said:
And on the headbutt ive been in many little friendly skirmishes with my older brother where weve accidentally bumped heads and yeah they hurt for a while but they never leave me rolling around on the floor.

Maybe, but in football it's about the entitlement to go down - some might see it as helping the referee. No prizes for being a gent.

E17yid · Jan 29, 2015

Labradaws was an excellent captain and a top geez.

You could see by the way Jan embraced Daws after the Hull game that he has a lot of respect for him.

Miss his smile.

Now we've got Fazio.

allpaths · Jan 29, 2015

225 said:
I don't really blame Vertonghen - I, like most people will, have experienced working a team where your manage is a complete prat, and the senior member of your team is also a complete lettuce.

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I didnt blame vertonghen for last year i even said, so im a bit confused why u just restated what i had said.

225 said:
The fact that the squad hasn't changed too much, but the mood has, will most definitely be down to the hierarchy. The job of a captain is to try and lift the team when they need a boost and, unfortunately, Dawson tried to on many occasion but just isn't a patch on Hugo/Jan. You've got to respect the guy with the armband, believe in him and - some times - be scared of him. Daws was a fantastic servant to the club, but I don't think he was the best captain we have had.

Maybe, but in football it's about the entitlement to go down - some might see it as helping the referee. No prizes for being a gent.

Like I said before to me the only thing that has changed this year other than poch, who deserves credit for the leadership he has shown, but Mason, Kane and Bentaleb. Since u like leaders that stand up for their teammates a standout moment and changing point for the season was when Benteke was bullying our centerbacks and Ryan Mason stepped up and squared him up really challenged him. Verts attitude and form has improved this season and he is a large part of our team but I wouldnt call him our captain or leader. As well didnt Jan give the Sheffield player an opportunity to go down then, by undeniably grabbing his throat?

225 · Jan 29, 2015

allpaths said:
I didnt blame vertonghen for last year i even said, so im a bit confused why u just restated what i had said.

I wasn't aware you'd trademarked that opinion. Sometimes you can agree with what someone says, it doesn't have to be back and forth. Also, on that note, this is only spamming up a thread so I'll leave it there.

Anyway... Sheffield United fans

missed out on a ticket tonight and I know loads went up there, read yr clubs statement in regards to yids having tickets in yr end, did you lot see any?

No and you would have heard them ,why cant Cockneys talk instead of shouting. Look at me look at me , Im really facking loud

Missing the point of a footballing atmosphere a little?

Generally, I've struggled to find anything other than complimentary from the old internet about spurs. I'm suspicious, but pleasantly surprised

IfiHadTheWings · Jan 29, 2015

Our Chris pisses all over him(not literally I hope as that would be weird), I agree Coutinho looks silk but Eriksens no slouch in that department himself+ he will out score and out assist him, the only department Coutinho wins is the 'I've still got my own hair department'

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