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No one is giving a final assessment of Pochettino as a manager, we are just judging how well he has done up to this point.
What do we think of Poch?
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No one is giving a final assessment of Pochettino as a manager, we are just judging how well he has done up to this point.
michaelden
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I posted this on the Britain First Spurs Fans site and they want him kicked out the country
Japhet
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We certainly have much more team spirit of late. Promoting Kane and Mason in particular has driven this and has shown up the negative effect some of our 'senior' players can cause. Fitness looks very good. Injuries are minimal (may be luck but it's relevant). Players seem to genuinely like the guy and he seems to be pretty cosy with Levy. Plenty of emphasis on development and not much attention paid to reputations or salaries. See how we do when he has had a chance to bring a few of 'his' players in. I'm certainly looking forward to it.
Hoddle&Waddle
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I really enjoy the style of play, and think we can only get better. All good in hindsight but I'm really glad we got Poch instead of LVG.
thinktank
Hmmm...
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Not luck.
Hoddle&Waddle
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No suprise that Levy loves him, by bringing in the likes of Bentaleb and Kane he has saved Levy's arse (in terms of the fans turning on him).
marvel
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I am very happy with him. The things I love about him are the way he conducts himself and speaks about the club and the way he has inspired improvement in Kane, Bentaleb, Mason, Rose, Chadli, Eriksen to name a few. The Chelsea game for me was a view into what could happen if everything goes his way, it was incredible. We haven't seen it on anything like a regular basis but it was a very significant moment as it showed the fans, players and board that special things can happen under Pochettino. What we now need to see if him given the tools to achieve this on a regular basis and I am sceptical our board will provide these. If he has to keep relying on players like Kane to perform at a high level week in week out then it is doomed to fail as somewhere along the line burn out or injury will occur. If improvements to the squad are made to allow rotation with top quality replacements then we will do very under him I think. He has shown more than enough for me to suggest he should be backed significantly in summer.
spurs9
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Unless the injury is down to a challenge or an awkward landing/fall, it's never down to luck/bad luck.
npearl4spurs
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What do I think of Mauricio Pochettino now?
I am proud to have him as our head coach, as he would put it. I was hopeful when he came over to us because of the success he had with Southampton. As an outsider, I saw the success he had with younger players and looking at our squad, almost everyone except Vertonghen and Lloris were all 24 and younger (a couple of exceptions).
He has taken what squad he was given and has us playing very well. I am proud of the work he is doing with the Academy and the opportunities he is willing to give to any young man, no matter the age. I know there was some speculation that he purposely made Kaboul captain and Adebayor vice-captain so that they would show their true colors to the squad and make it easy to move noteworthy players out of the club; if that was not the case, I think that was his biggest slip-up so far.
As a couple of others have said, it has taken him awhile to learn the squad following the World Cup, but now that he knows the players and has had months to coach them, we are starting to bear fruit. Another big test Saturday against Arsenal...let's get three points and take another massive step towards making North London lilywhite!
COYS!
I am proud to have him as our head coach, as he would put it. I was hopeful when he came over to us because of the success he had with Southampton. As an outsider, I saw the success he had with younger players and looking at our squad, almost everyone except Vertonghen and Lloris were all 24 and younger (a couple of exceptions).
He has taken what squad he was given and has us playing very well. I am proud of the work he is doing with the Academy and the opportunities he is willing to give to any young man, no matter the age. I know there was some speculation that he purposely made Kaboul captain and Adebayor vice-captain so that they would show their true colors to the squad and make it easy to move noteworthy players out of the club; if that was not the case, I think that was his biggest slip-up so far.
As a couple of others have said, it has taken him awhile to learn the squad following the World Cup, but now that he knows the players and has had months to coach them, we are starting to bear fruit. Another big test Saturday against Arsenal...let's get three points and take another massive step towards making North London lilywhite!
COYS!
thinktank
Hmmm...
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Not to mention the millions £££.
shelfboy68
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I agree he is better than avb who seems more of a fifa manager and yes he suits levys philosophy of not spending much but maximising achievment with what we have.
However he needs more time to be judged a great manager and measure his achievements like winning trophies or champions league qualification, but so far so good and in fact by early march he may even have his first trophy.
davidmatzdorf
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It's too early to make any firm judgments.
The thing that really strikes me is that he seems to have figured out - so far, at least - how to stay outside and above the club politics.
He set down his marker very early that he was going to pick players based on his observations and not on their reputations, wages or transfer fees - and he seems to have got away with it.
The promotion of youth players is no great surprise - he did the same at Southampton and it seems to have been one major reason why he got the job. I can see all manner of compelling reasons why Levy would want a manager right now who is willing to work with and develop young players. Here are two:
He seems to have a gift for not abrading new colleagues. From all of the leaks and rumours, he gets on with Baldini, Levy and all of the other key personnel who were there when he arrived. That's hard to do.
He doesn't make excuses and blame others. After years of Redknapp and AVB, that's going to go down well with Levy & co.
If the Capoue/Kaboul/Adebayor rebellion story is remotely true, then he has a feeling for which faction to support and the political skills to get away with supporting junior players over senior ones. That's also hard to do.
All of those examples are relevant to the question of his tenure: how long is it going to be before Levy overreacts to a period of bad form and grumbling fans and starts to think about sacking the manager again? We'll have a period of shit form soon enough. That's when we'll find out whether Pochettino's political skills are as good as they seem.
The thing that really strikes me is that he seems to have figured out - so far, at least - how to stay outside and above the club politics.
He set down his marker very early that he was going to pick players based on his observations and not on their reputations, wages or transfer fees - and he seems to have got away with it.
The promotion of youth players is no great surprise - he did the same at Southampton and it seems to have been one major reason why he got the job. I can see all manner of compelling reasons why Levy would want a manager right now who is willing to work with and develop young players. Here are two:
- Our academy, in a state of ongoing revolution for the past 10 years, has just now started to cough up a meaningful number of high-quality players. It used to produce players to generate modest transfer fees to the lower divisions. Then it started to generate squad players who might eventually be sold to lower-table Premiership sides. Then it started to produce internationals. Then Levy appointed Pochettino. Coincidence? I doubt it. Sherwood would already have been bashing Levy's ear about the quality in the academy for the preceding year, first because AVB wasn't playing them and then because he was. The results of Sherwood promoting Bentaleb and Kane last season will not have been lost on the club hierarchy.
- We have a stadium to build and every Nabil Bentaleb, Harry Kane or Ryan Mason is £20m that we don't have to spend on players.
He seems to have a gift for not abrading new colleagues. From all of the leaks and rumours, he gets on with Baldini, Levy and all of the other key personnel who were there when he arrived. That's hard to do.
He doesn't make excuses and blame others. After years of Redknapp and AVB, that's going to go down well with Levy & co.
If the Capoue/Kaboul/Adebayor rebellion story is remotely true, then he has a feeling for which faction to support and the political skills to get away with supporting junior players over senior ones. That's also hard to do.
All of those examples are relevant to the question of his tenure: how long is it going to be before Levy overreacts to a period of bad form and grumbling fans and starts to think about sacking the manager again? We'll have a period of shit form soon enough. That's when we'll find out whether Pochettino's political skills are as good as they seem.
seanwhite1961
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Developing players? Apart from promoting Mason, seen little of that. Kane was being excluded when even I thought he had to be starting PL games. Putting Ade back in and sidelining Kane v Sheff Utd was a dreadful decision.
His style, such as we saw at Southampton, suits us. High pressing, quick tempo, attacking from all angles. Only in the past month or so has it really began to materialise.
The next 6 fixtures will inform us greatly.
His style, such as we saw at Southampton, suits us. High pressing, quick tempo, attacking from all angles. Only in the past month or so has it really began to materialise.
The next 6 fixtures will inform us greatly.
Mr Pink
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Was a very big advocate for his appointment on here, as most know, but its still too early to make cast iron judgments.
Delighted we got him and I'm encouraged so far - most of the reasons have been cited so far in this thread.
I thought if we got him he'd be here for the real long term, and nothing has changed my mind on that - in fact I'm more confident that will be the case.
The implementation of his style was never going to happen in a couple of weeks. Have called for patience so many times, but we have seen glimpses here and there and it has became a bit more evident in recent weeks. But what's been most impressive is that we've found away to get results in the interim - work in progress etc. Yes individual brillance has played a big part, but so has fitness levels and the attitude of the players which comes from the management. He's already started to shift our mind set IMO.
We've beaten the big teams before in recent years, obviously, but the thumping of Chelsea had a different feel to it. We wern't hanging on and hoping, we just gave them a good humping like it was expected almost.
Anyway the future is very bright under Pochettino because there is a long term plan to develop and improve, that's the most important thing and we're still in the early days of his tenure with the feeling that things are starting to move a long pretty well.
Delighted we got him and I'm encouraged so far - most of the reasons have been cited so far in this thread.
I thought if we got him he'd be here for the real long term, and nothing has changed my mind on that - in fact I'm more confident that will be the case.
The implementation of his style was never going to happen in a couple of weeks. Have called for patience so many times, but we have seen glimpses here and there and it has became a bit more evident in recent weeks. But what's been most impressive is that we've found away to get results in the interim - work in progress etc. Yes individual brillance has played a big part, but so has fitness levels and the attitude of the players which comes from the management. He's already started to shift our mind set IMO.
We've beaten the big teams before in recent years, obviously, but the thumping of Chelsea had a different feel to it. We wern't hanging on and hoping, we just gave them a good humping like it was expected almost.
Anyway the future is very bright under Pochettino because there is a long term plan to develop and improve, that's the most important thing and we're still in the early days of his tenure with the feeling that things are starting to move a long pretty well.
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THFCSPURS19
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Sorry what?
Rose was shit last season, has been fantastic this season.
He hasn't put Dier in the U21 side like many people predicted.
He's had the balls to make Mason a main starter (deservedly)
Bentaleb is now a key player and a starter
Dembele's looking more effective as a CAM
Eriksen is starting to do better than last season
Lamela certainly looks better than last season
Chadli's been banging in goals even though many people wrote him off last season
Even Paulinho looked good against West Brom
He's made Kane our key player and has developed him massively. How on earth can't you see this? He's better in every single aspect by a mile compared to last season. He's also now our no.1 Striker, whereas he was probably no.2 by the end of Tim's reign.
I have no idea how you can justify your opinion.
slartibartfast
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Jury is still out for me.
Has made a number of decisions that are baffling to say the least.
His English has improved in the last few months and that can only help in all aspects.
Waiting to see what we look like next season when he has brought his player's in (presuming they are his and not Baldinis or Levys).
Said in another thread it seems to have taken a long time to put the ghost of AVB to bed and I like seeing him annoyed when we start piss balling about with backwards, sideways tippy tappy, possession for possessions sake football.
I do wonder if some of the more recent baffling appearances had pressure from above as we want them gone.
FA cup team selection was a proper fk up. Not very impressed with that.
I've always said EVERY manager sometimes makes decisions where your left thinking wtf?
Has made a number of decisions that are baffling to say the least.
His English has improved in the last few months and that can only help in all aspects.
Waiting to see what we look like next season when he has brought his player's in (presuming they are his and not Baldinis or Levys).
Said in another thread it seems to have taken a long time to put the ghost of AVB to bed and I like seeing him annoyed when we start piss balling about with backwards, sideways tippy tappy, possession for possessions sake football.
I do wonder if some of the more recent baffling appearances had pressure from above as we want them gone.
FA cup team selection was a proper fk up. Not very impressed with that.
I've always said EVERY manager sometimes makes decisions where your left thinking wtf?
THFCSPURS19
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Was it? We struggled to get through to the final of the C1C even though our second team played in the FA Cup. If our players were tired after playing on Saturday as well, we really could have fucked up against Sheffield United.
slartibartfast
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Agree with what your saying for the most part but think your over reaching with some of those mentioned.
Bentaleb? Was already playing.
Chadli and Eriksen were always going to be starting 11.
We're playing better football in general so all players look better.
Thats down to Poch.
Annoys me when people who criticise a manager they dont like put any achievements down to the players but any failure down to the manager.
Like Poch with Kane there was some bellend on TS yesterday slagging Harry saying he only got CL because of Bale!!!
And who brought Bale through and got him playing that way???
A.Durham said 'Well if thats the case we might as well get rid of all the managers then' lol.
