EnfieldYiddo
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I think you'll find it's Zayn*
Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United
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Dean
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Sadly, I thought "Best song ever" was about "Top of the World" by The Carpenters....Be honest. You know his name and the other three and the one who left and all the words to all their songs
dudu
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Surely that is exactly what we need though - a CM who is better defensively than what we have but who is also as good as what we have on the ball?
Nerine
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You know nothing, errr... Dean Sno... Ah never mind. Poor concept. Not the right set up.
rossdapep
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That was really interesting. Although Kramer's consistency throughout makes me prefer him.
Schneiderlin would be a much more significant signing than both Kondogbia or Kramer. We've all seen players look great in other leagues, in other environments, move for a big fee and then flop spectacularly. I'm sure people probably thought that Paulinho "would have a higher ceiling" than James Milner, for example, but for me, the two in terms of effectiveness in this league, are on different planets. With the benefit of hindsight.
Schneiderlin has not only proven to be successful in the Premier League week in, week out, but he has MORE IMPORTANTLY, been proven to be an effective lynchpin of the system our head coach likes to play.
If we as a club are serious about making our head coach's system work and the player who is proven to do this to a very high standard is available and gettable, we have to do everything to get that player, if we're serious about this.
For all the other young signings we're making and young players coming through the youth system, a signing like Schneiderlin, to have that calm experienced (but at 25 still have time on his side) head in the heartbeat of the team to knit it altogether, then that is invaluable.
Anyone else would be a risk, whereas Schneiderlin would mean we are looking like we mean serious business for next season.
Schneiderlin and Bentaleb for me would be a guaranteed dominant, competitive, top-quality Premier League midfield. That's what you're buying.
Schneiderlin has not only proven to be successful in the Premier League week in, week out, but he has MORE IMPORTANTLY, been proven to be an effective lynchpin of the system our head coach likes to play.
If we as a club are serious about making our head coach's system work and the player who is proven to do this to a very high standard is available and gettable, we have to do everything to get that player, if we're serious about this.
For all the other young signings we're making and young players coming through the youth system, a signing like Schneiderlin, to have that calm experienced (but at 25 still have time on his side) head in the heartbeat of the team to knit it altogether, then that is invaluable.
Anyone else would be a risk, whereas Schneiderlin would mean we are looking like we mean serious business for next season.
Schneiderlin and Bentaleb for me would be a guaranteed dominant, competitive, top-quality Premier League midfield. That's what you're buying.
mark87
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Although signing Morgan would obviously be fantastic, he is used to playing with wanyama and we currently don't have that type of player in our squad, closest would be stambouli, so would be interesting to see how the formation would line up with Schneiderlin in the team, if two in the middle it will be him and Bentaleb then nabil would have to work alot more on the defensive side of his game so him and schneiderlin can share the defensive workload as well as pushing forward.
SpartanSpur
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I actually agree (and it is an observation I've made myself) with this but seems having Eriksen on the left is the not the manager's plan. Eriksen needs to learn to play on the half turn a lot more, and be able to see more of a picture in the middle without simply moving in from the outside. Maybe if we sign Martial as a more out and out winger it will allow us to use a 4-3-3 and push Eriksen deeper.
It's also a position Pritchard could excel in, however I believe he also did a lot of his best work at Brentford off of the left.
It's a shame we can't pick up a WF for the right side as that would allow us to use CE in a free role on the left...
People who question his worth need to check Southamptons results/ performances when he was not playing for them, apart from the Villa game. I havent checked but someone told me over a 3rd of their goals conceded last season were when he wasn't playing and that wasn't a huge amount of games.
Mr Pink
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Not trying to belittle you at all, I just didn't want to discuss it further with you. You asked me for my opinion in terms of him being worth it, and I gave you my opinion. You replied by saying you didn't agree with what I was 'spouting'. If anything that was an attempt at belittling!
But whatever.
SpartanSpur
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You don't put up the defensive numbers that MS does without being a very competent DM. Bentaleb and MS would share roles, both capable of pressing, holding and being a deep lying playmaker. It would be a very strong and dynamic midfield. Bentaleb is very capable of this, especially with someone to share the load which sadly for Mason isn't really his game.
mikeeegreen
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This is exactly on point. Even though he gets forward and plays a box to box type role (especially under Pochettino) his positional awareness and reading of the game is key.
danielneeds
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I actually think Schneiderlin and Bentelab is a great blend in the middle. Schneiderlin as the sitter and director of operations, and Bentelab given more freedom to be the terrier, chasing and harrying, and using his natural energy.
worcestersauce
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They didn't say that though, they said they would allow him to go and began negotiations as did he, and then went back on their word and then and only then did they say he isn't for sale.
As for us taking their manager by the way, we didn't steal him away from them, they sacked their chief exec, the man who brought Poch in, and started selling all their players, Pochottino was on his way out Spurs or no Spurs.
I just want people to remember the facts properly.
mikeeegreen
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Think the other way round. That's what it would be.
THFCSPURS19
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Fixed
danielneeds
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I don't think so. Bentelab doesn't have the defensive awareness at this point of his career. He's better knowing someone is behind him.
Trix
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I agree it seems difficult for some to grasp because most teams that play with two CM's have one more defensive and one more attack minded player. The best example I can think of was Petit and Vieria. Both Tackled, both attacked but not at the same time. Takes discipline and understanding but it can work very well if the players have enough all round quality.
Everlasting Seconds
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That's hitting the nail on it's head with a freakin atom bomb. Our #1 problem on the pitch last season.
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