Nanky_1988
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Haha Ive read it now and understand.... Apologies
The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 8th/9th August 2015
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@Bobby__Lucky
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thinktank
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*ahem* Be careful what you wish for, stoofer.
Agree though. The thing is, we seem to have proper contingency/depth of options this time.
Fans are gonna moan though; I'm convinced they actually like it tbh.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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I was in a reasonably good mood today before reading this thread.
Now, running a warm bath, putting on some Lionel Richie and slashing my wrists sounds quite appealing.
Now, running a warm bath, putting on some Lionel Richie and slashing my wrists sounds quite appealing.
Jamturk
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The board seem to find the money for ill fated bids on Olympic stadiums, the board seem to find money to compensate managers and staff they hire then fire.
The board seem to find money to buy players that we don't need but might turn a profit on later.
There is no doubt that the board are profligate in areas of the club affairs that get overlooked.
I would like the money for transfers concentrated into getting key players with experience that can help bring through the undoubted talent we have coming through the ranks ATM.
p.s there are a lot of things the board deserve credit for.
scat1620
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I know there has to be a balance of pragmatism and idealism in life, but if you take that argument to its logical conclusion (like we're taking the "Just get them in" argument to its logical conclusion) then if all of our transfer targets in a given close-season were great players who were within our reach financially provided we negotiated hard and were prepared to wait until the last day of the window (or even the next window/next summer, as we're often hinted is the case due to the selling club not wanting to do business that year e.g. Schneiderlin) to finalise the signing then we could end up fielding a team consisting of the U12s with Doris The Tea Lady* in goal for a season.
It's not an easy balance to achieve, but I think that THFC (whoever that might be: Levy, Baldini, Pochettino etc) haven't had the balance right with our striking options for at least a year now, and I expect them to do better by hook or by crook.
*to be fair, I hear Doris is quite handy in the nets, so maybe that wouldn't be too bad of an option
thinktank
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Quick farewell wank before the big event?
Spurger King
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Poor ol' Jasper taking a bit of a kicking on SO after offering his opinion that we "must" make an announcement by Tuesday. Not worth quoting any of it as it's just speculation on his part, but the general tone is that he's confused/surprised by the lack of announcements.
thinktank
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The balance will get there. Poch will makes sure of it. It may not be with the players everyone wants (though it could well be, there's still time) but he will forge a properly balanced, effective, young, vibrant side.
I seriously suggest folks hold back on stringing themselves up until Christmas. Do it then...after giving me all of your presents.
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thinktank
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We've had onion from itks this window, don't think it's a prob. unless a halt has been put to it.
Mr Pink
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If you working off a list of targets for any given position then the answer is a resounding yes.
It would be totally typical for us to have a list of players for different positions to work from. That's a realistic model most Clubs would work under.
Levy is very good at the negotiating and extracting value, no doubt about it, and there's still time left before casting any real judgement but we're definitely short in some areas which could be pretty significant if not addressed.
I'd be disappointed if it was all left to deadline day. Doesn't bear thinking about it if deals break down because we ran out of time.
I know that sounds dramatic at this stage but experience should tell us all that its a possibility at the least, hence the collective nervousness starting to brew/fester on here tonight.
Lets see what happens this week though.
Spurger King
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That was pretty much the gist of the conversation. Sounds frustrated more than anything. There was this nugget...
"It just cannot happen that if we have not confirmed a midfielder signed, we MUST at least confirm a striker. Can I be any clearer than that?"
To which the answer would be - erm, yeah probably.
BunionBoy
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Fans are getting frustrated by Levys strung out transfer plans but it's not fair to take it out on the ITK's.
Can you imagine how long it takes Levy to negotiate changing his broadband !
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But what happens if no deals could be done that quickly? Is that so unfeasible?
I just don't get how people think we have any power when buying a player.
thinktank
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It really is, mate. We'll be ok. There's enough decent competition now to push what we've got forward. Pritch, Onomah, Winks, Carroll will all contribute and contribute more and more as we go on imo. Wimmer, Toby, Alli and Trippier have strengthened us.
Toby and Dier would be ok options for CM next to whoever (Dier would likely grow into it more)
Chadli would surprise people if he had to deputise for an injured Kane - please god don't that happen though - and play point.
We would be ok.
The attitude and hunger of the young guns (and trippier, who I'm loving) would push the whole project forward imo.
I really think there is a massive overreaction going on right now.
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@Bobby__Lucky said:
I don't recall any ITK that mentions both in the same sentence, although there was one but that referenced 2 out of 3 (or 3 of 4) which referenced Berahino, N'jie , Werner. But i could be mistaken. I recall the cabbage card goat ITK and subsequent berahino ITK from multiple sources but none referencing the 2 together. Just my thoughts that ITK comes from differing sources and it could be that both are high up the list ? But maybe only one will be purchased? Obviously both would be lovely however. Looking like a long wait ether way, with info that WB are waiting on other bids and Saido giving the appearance of dedication (which is very professional under the circs)
OP was about 2 from 3 of Berahino, N'Jie and Werner - so @JJset is correct to refer to 'both'
thinktank
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Dayum, you went all technical on his ass.
thinktank
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Turfies?
Mr Pink
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Its hard to answer that because we are not privy to the intricacies involved.
I get what you're saying though. I know we tend to view deals in simple terms, when in reality they're complex in most cases but I've often suspected that our transfer strategy has been hindered by having too many cooks involved- ie the committee, or whoever is making the final decision or how many people are involved in contributing to the decision making process has hindered our ability to act more decisively.
I do think there are signs this summer that we've altered our strategy though. A clear plan seemed/seems to be in place. The speed in which we've moved players on this summer has been impressive.
But by the same token, I expected us to have in another attacking option by now, certainly by the end of this week. That's still possible, so we'll see I guess.
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