The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 12th August 2015

coypu · Aug 12, 2015

Singaspursofsixspence said:
Play the ball, not the man

Charlie Adams says see you on Saturday

(Just trying to lighten a recent god awful depressing trend in here)

nailsy · Aug 12, 2015

Bulletspur said:
You can honestly say that with a straight face? It shows obviously you have missed the reasons for the various replies to his posts. The points of most of his posts are not in question, its how it is delivered. I am sure there are more suitable adjectives than donkey to describe Fazio who all be it limited, gave his best for our shirt.

I for one liked Fazio and would not have minded if he stayed, but I can see the logic. I hope his replacements prove themselves to be credible upgrades.

He's right about it getting boring. Your post was number 73 in today's thread. There were 24 posts before yours that were about Mike and his opinions.

Anyway, back to the ITK, wasn't Fazio seen as a bit of a leader in the dressing room? Does Toby bring that to the squad as well? With a young squad that leadership and experience can be pretty important.

SpurinChicago · Aug 12, 2015

Not super thrilled with the prospect of Fazio leaving simply because I believe every player coming from a different league deserves at least two seasons to determine if they are a fit. I thought Fazio was very good at times last year, but frequently looked a bit too slow for the league. But if Poch can live without him, I trust his judgment.

Indacupfortottenham · Aug 12, 2015

mikeeegreen said:
Same here. Would still love to sell Andros but that doesn't look like happening (Madness IMO but there we go)... To an extent I'd sell Dembele as well, but I think he's being kept on to keep all the Belgian's happy. It's well documented that him and Jan are BFFs

Personally I think the two you mentioned are good squad players and have attributes other players are lacking, Fazio just isn't in that category for me.

@Bobby__Lucky · Aug 12, 2015

mikeeegreen said:
Has there been any ITK on Carroll recently... ?

I did ask JJ about Carroll, and if in Maurice's plans, the reply leaned toward him not being in plans, but things change.

mikeeegreen · Aug 12, 2015

Indacupfortottenham said:
Personally I think the two you mentioned are good squad players and have attributes other players are lacking, Fazio just isn't in that category for me.

Good for a squad maybe, but both want to play, and we can't guarantee that. We also need £££ for targets and both would bring in around £10mill each. Dembele probably has high wages as well.

mikeeegreen · Aug 12, 2015

@Bobby__Lucky said:
I did ask JJ about Carroll, and if in Maurice's plans, the reply leaned toward him not being in plans, but things change.

I'd agree with JJ on that. Hopefully JJ's stance still remains.

Cavehillspur · Aug 12, 2015

@Bobby__Lucky said:
I did ask JJ about Carroll, and if in Maurice's plans, the reply leaned toward him not being in plans, but things change.

Trix · Aug 12, 2015

@Bobby__Lucky said:
I did ask JJ about Carroll, and if in Maurice's plans, the reply leaned toward him not being in plans, but things change.

Looking likely Carroll will go.

longtimespur · Aug 12, 2015

SHaRD said:
No - that was Grant Hall. Dominic Ball is still with the U21s, but is more a DM.

Hells and bells, halls and Balls I get mixed up Cheers for putting me right to you and Sandro30 (y)

doom · Aug 12, 2015

@Bobby__Lucky said:
I did ask JJ about Carroll, and if in Maurice's plans, the reply leaned toward him not being in plans, but things change.

wasn't that before he played pre-season though?

mikeeegreen · Aug 12, 2015

Trix said:
Looking likely Carroll will go.

Yeah makes sense. Cheers Trix.

WiganSpur · Aug 12, 2015

Trix said:
Looking likely Carroll will go.

I was in agreement with this initially but he's been great in pre-season at CAM.

One of a very few in our squad with the ability to see and execute a pass. There's a chance we could miss him.

nedley · Aug 12, 2015

Trix said:
Looking likely Carroll will go.

Well lets hope we don't leave ourselves short in that department.

SonicSarr · Aug 12, 2015

Trix said:
Looking likely Carroll will go.

Shame if true. He looked good in post/pre season matches. Never really got a decent crack at it here.

glospur · Aug 12, 2015

Trix said:
Looking likely Carroll will go.

Disappointing in my opinion. He was one of our best in preseason and offers the type of quick tempo passing ability at the edge of the area that few others in the squad possess. I thought he was significantly better than anyone else in the 10 role in preseason and deserved an opportunity based on that.

Indacupfortottenham · Aug 12, 2015

Hoping Carroll only goes out on loan, maybe a sign we are bringing in another CM.

Lappi · Aug 12, 2015

If Fazio was trusted and staying we wouldn't have signed both Wimmer and Toby. We don't need 5 centre backs, especially given we have talented young ones

mikeeegreen · Aug 12, 2015

nedley said:
Well lets hope we don't leave ourselves short in that department.

Considering he plays in the attacking midfield 3 whenever Poch has used him, I highly doubt we will be short. Add the imminent signing of N'jie and obvious inclusion of Pritchard (who is a much better player IMO and fits Poch's philosophy a lot more)

mikeeegreen · Aug 12, 2015

Indacupfortottenham said:
Hoping Carroll only goes out on loan, maybe a sign we are bringing in another CM.

Poch never used/uses him as a CM

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