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ilikeost

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I'd personally be perfectly happy if we didn't sign anyone at all.
I wouldn't say perfectly happy but I wouldn't mind it that much. The only issue is obviously a potential injury to Kane because I'm not sure Son, N'jie or Chadli is good enough as strikers.
 

GetSpurredOn

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For those suggesting it'll take till march for a new striker to bed in and be of use, in reality, that's probably around the time we'll be looking to kick onwards.
 

Spurs1960

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Aye, i just realised that! What im trying to say, is that the club will be worth more when the stadium is built, than it is right now.

I think the best time would be to sell about 5 years after its built. When we have received all the benefits that it brings.

Well that simply isn't true because the NFL want a London team and will eventually get it, which obviously is expected to be at WHL or we wouldn't be building it in the first place. When that happens and exposure in millions upon millions of US homes is regular then commercial income will go through the roof and our fanbase will increase. Plenty of benefit to come after a 4-year period. Every reason to hang on as the club will be worth even more if you wish to view it that way.
 

Spurs1960

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Didnt Toby, Son and Alli do it straight away? Thats what we hire scouts for.

It would be a huge mistake not to get some backup. I dont buy the January is not a selling month, any month is a selling month provided you offer the asking price.

Some do, some don't. you buy for the long-term not for players who will start well, if they do it is a bonus. having said that performing is about motivation anyway so any player personally motivated should perform as well as he can until he learns a system etc. Some learn quicker than others, some have easier roles to learn, some are not played in a position they are used to. Not cut and dried answer, no right or wrong.
 

Impspur1

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I think any of the forwards we are linked with recently will only make us better. A nice position to be in for a change!
 

Mr Pink

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I wouldn't give a shit if we signed nobody this window. I can't even think of many out there who are actually available to us and who would actually improve our first team drastically, and we have players like Pritchard, Onomah, Bentaleb, Mason, Son, Njie, Chadli, CCV,KWP, Harrison, Oduwa, Veljkovic (if we can get him to sign a contract) really talented players who aren't getting games right now.

If a real gem who could improve us is out there and available ok, but the last thing we need is any more padding or progress blocking.

We have Son and Njie who are slightly different options as striker already (and Chadli & Lamela), so we don't need a "different" type for those plan B tactical changes (as various games have proved this season). At best we need someone who if Kane was injured could play that fulcrum role but who would be happy to be understudy, because that's what we are going to play every week, because that's what we do. Utterly pointless signing someone like Berahino, Perez etc.

Agree with this BC, but I do think we really should try and bring in that understudy for Kane. I'm sure we're trying and January is never ideal but if Kane picks up any kind of serious injury we'b be in trouble. Dembele at Fulham would make sense on a lot of levels - havn't seen much of him, but someone who is happy to come in and be used gradually.
 

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Didnt Toby, Son and Alli do it straight away? Thats what we hire scouts for.

It would be a huge mistake not to get some backup. I dont buy the January is not a selling month, any month is a selling month provided you offer the asking price.

No Alli and Toby settled straight away as they had preseasons I believe. Son has struggled for form and consistency and was bought a couple of days before the window. That is what will happen with any Jan signing. Plus Son was also high quality o doubt we'd be able to prise someone of his level away in Jan.

Way I see it from my knowledge of world football there is maybe only that Marseille guy who looks like he could come in and have the sufficient quality and experience in that role to make a difference now. No point loaning or signing a quick fix who needs to be sold later.

Also starting to like that people are now coming round to the idea of training players we already have rather than buying average. When we had that debate in the other thread. No point clogging up a squad doing well.

Dream Jan for me would be Veljkovic signing and being understudy to Dier and then getting the understudy to Kane. If we don't use what we have and maybe trying Harrison off the bench as he is now beginning to train with first team and see how he gets on
 

ebzrascal

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No Alli and Toby settled straight away as they had preseasons I believe. Son has struggled for form and consistency and was bought a couple of days before the window. That is what will happen with any Jan signing. Plus Son was also high quality o doubt we'd be able to prise someone of his level away in Jan.

Way I see it from my knowledge of world football there is maybe only that Marseille guy who looks like he could come in and have the sufficient quality and experience in that role to make a difference now. No point loaning or signing a quick fix who needs to be sold later.

Also starting to like that people are now coming round to the idea of training players we already have rather than buying average. When we had that debate in the other thread. No point clogging up a squad doing well.

Dream Jan for me would be Veljkovic signing and being understudy to Dier and then getting the understudy to Kane. If we don't use what we have and maybe trying Harrison off the bench as he is now beginning to train with first team and see how he gets on

Son actually started really well then got injured I seem to remember he got the winner against Palace and 2 goals on his Europa debut
 

IGSpur

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Son actually started really well then got injured I seem to remember he got the winner against Palace and 2 goals on his Europa debut

He did but that was a whole two games. Like I said he has struggled for form and consistency, probably has he just got dropped straight into the squad. He's quality is what is seeing him manage with us atm
 

GetSpurredOn

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Dream Jan for me would be Veljkovic signing and being understudy to Dier and then getting the understudy to Kane.

This, in short, is what I'm hoping for.
Veljkovic to sign a new contract and step up as a first team understudy to Dier (as DM/CB option), plus Carter-Vickers to step up and understudy Toby (if as expected Fazio is sold).
A new striker, to take some of the workload off Kane, funded by the sales of Fazio and Andros. Fill the space Andros leaves within, using fit again Pritchard, Onomah etc.
Finally, as a bonus, a couple of longer term view signings, much like Alli was last January, early suggestions seem to be Rico Henry, Shilow Tracey etc.
 

millsey

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Agree with this BC, but I do think we really should try and bring in that understudy for Kane. I'm sure we're trying and January is never ideal but if Kane picks up any kind of serious injury we'b be in trouble. Dembele at Fulham would make sense on a lot of levels - havn't seen much of him, but someone who is happy to come in and be used gradually.
He's an 18 year old kid who has scored about 8 goals in the championship and played a handful of professional games. He is not a Kane understudy in any shape or form for this season or even the next!
 

Shadydan

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What I'm talking about is when you have two or more games in a 7-9 day window, that you rotate through the squad. I'm perfectly happy with a consistent XI if all we're doing is playing PL games, but we haven't been.

This physiologically has an impact through the season in how the body is able to recover from the wear and tear from games because simply put our body is fixing and stopping up and blocking off little microtears that we inflict upon ourselves every day, and these guys are creating much more havoc in that respect than most - or all - of us are.

How do you manage that slow degradation? Balance the need for continuity with form, injury and the opportunity for them to rest in season and during the off-season. At the very least 2017 is going to awful for us if this keeps up because guess what else is coming up: Euro 2016.

Dude stop over analysing, we'll deal with the potential threat of burn out when it comes.
 

Breezer

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I think some people are jumping on the bandwagon and being slightly unfair towards Berahino. Yes he might have a few rough edges that are being noticed because he doesn't want to be at WBA. Maybe he's handled it in the wrong way. But he's still young and has plenty time to be put on the right path. End of the day Berahino is a proven Goal scorer in the Prem and plays regularly for Eng U21s. I'm certain Poch could have him back at his best! If we don't sign him then another top team will. The guy is not Balotelli mk2. I'm not fussed if we sign him or not but to completely right him off over a few silly incidences would be foolish.
 
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Hot Spur

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What's all the talk about "backups"??? Every signing should aim to IMPROVE the team, therefore should be a first choice starter, not a backup. We will never win anything signing second choice players.
 

THFCSPURS19

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What's all the talk about "backups"??? Every signing should aim to IMPROVE the team, therefore should be a first choice starter, not a backup. We will never win anything signing second choice players.
OK, tell me a player who we could realistically sign that is better than Kane, would score more goals and would fit perfectly in our pressing style?

The best thing about these posts is that when you subsequently ask them the above question, they can't give an answer.
 

Shadydan

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What's all the talk about "backups"??? Every signing should aim to IMPROVE the team, therefore should be a first choice starter, not a backup. We will never win anything signing second choice players.

Because people are being realistic.
 
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