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Luka Van der Bale

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I don't know what it is like in England but in Aus, everyone is now talking up Spurs. I have to admit that i don't really like that, as we seem a better "fly under the radar" team. Look at last season when people starting talking us up late in the season, and we fell apart. Then there was the whole "mind the gap" fiasco.

It is just not great being talked up as a Spurs supporter.
Tbf we didn't bottle the title. Leicester just kept winning, and then once the title had become out of reach, our performances and results dropped off a cliff last 3 matches. We actually kept the pressure on Leicester very well when we were in title contention - they just dealt with that pressure well. Both teams just kept racking up the points, so we didn't catch them.
 

$hoguN

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For those praising Liverpool's press over ours we do it in entirely different ways. We aim to press early and high up the pitch with our defence rarely stepping out to press as it leaves gaps, that's why we can do it for 90 mins without conceding.

Liverpool on the other hand look to press all over the pitch, do not commit a DM to cover any gaps and their defence do step out. It's why they get cut to ribbons by everyone.
 

ClintEastwould

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I don't know what it is like in England but in Aus, everyone is now talking up Spurs. I have to admit that i don't really like that, as we seem a better "fly under the radar" team. Look at last season when people starting talking us up late in the season, and we fell apart. Then there was the whole "mind the gap" fiasco.

It is just not great being talked up as a Spurs supporter.

By "fly under the radar" do you mean not actually be any good? People talk about good exciting teams. Can't have one without the other.
 

EllenAlex

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I don't disagree with the premise that we will have to improve - but I'd be surprised if there are 4 teams with 70+ points this season.

Too many squads capable of taking points off each other to see 4 break away from the rest.

Much like at the bottom, where you no longer have to achieve 40 points to stay up. Not since season 2011-2012 has 40 points been required for safety when Birmingham beat Wolves to the drop.

I wonder how much the increased competition will eat into the Top 4/Title points requirements?
 

tototoner

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"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."
 

Larryjanta

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Much like at the bottom, where you no longer have to achieve 40 points to stay up. Not since season 2011-2012 has 40 points been required for safety when Birmingham beat Wolves to the drop.

I wonder how much the increased competition will eat into the Top 4/Title points requirements?

I said this last season when people said it was our only chance. I don't see teams running away with the title, at least 2 teams will be in the hunt going into the final weeks with the extra money each team has. I don't see a team winning it in March (or being out of sight) unless they're truly a remarkable team. Every team in the prem could go 4 matches winning them all or losing them all, it's the consistency which you do both of these that matters

"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

I don't think pundits are realising 1) that Poch wants to make a club into one of the biggest and then dominate rather than do straight in to somewhere it's expected and 2) that we are so very close to it. They also don't seem to realise (and Neville should really be able to grasp this!) that taking a job at Barca/ Real is a massive risk, you won't get the time to make your mark and, if you fail once, you'll never get another shot at it. By building a team, you have less pressure, can have the odd off season and still reach your goals.

All that being said, if Real/Barca came in for him, I'd be lying if I said I didn't worry a little
 

Dillspur

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"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

Carry on like we are and he'll already have one of the biggest jobs in the world
 

Dave-F

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Feb 26, 2004
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For those praising Liverpool's press over ours we do it in entirely different ways. We aim to press early and high up the pitch with our defence rarely stepping out to press as it leaves gaps, that's why we can do it for 90 mins without conceding.

Liverpool on the other hand look to press all over the pitch, do not commit a DM to cover any gaps and their defence do step out. It's why they get cut to ribbons by everyone.

Unfortunately the hom,e game against Liverpool came too soon for us. October - March and we would have beaten them.
 

Indacupfortottenham

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"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."


I saw this too, don't think he'd suit Barca or Madrid though ( hope that's not wishful thinking). Hope he builds a dynasty here, , he has definitely started one I think.
 

etchedchaos

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I'd think Barca would be a toss-up, they have a few players that might buy into his system but they might not. Madrid however would be a clusterfuck, too many egos, not to mention he'll get little or no support from the President to allow him the freedom to properly implement his system either.
 

Lo Amo Speroni

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Poch has said he would like to stay at the club as long as Fergie and Wenger have at Man Utd and Arsenal. I think he will stay whilst he still feels supported and the team are doing as he asks of them. He strikes me as a guy who would not want to manage big egos but create a club in his image.
 

The Scarecrow

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Poch has said he would like to stay at the club as long as Fergie and Wenger have at Man Utd and Arsenal. I think he will stay whilst he still feels supported and the team are doing as he asks of them. He strikes me as a guy who would not want to manage big egos but create a club in his image.
I also don't see why he would want to leave now that he's so close to true greatness. Winning trophies with Barca or Bayern is one thing, but creating a new dynasty is something else entirely.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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Carry on like we are and he'll already have one of the biggest jobs in the world

he has already

Except that he hasn't and we aren't. It's just hubris to suggest so. Being a "big club" does not result from a couple of Champions League campaigns, nor even if we win the Premiership once or twice. It has to do with having a huge worldwide fanbase, a 60k+ stadium, a global "brand" [hate that word] and a history of dominance measured in decades. It also has to do with financial muscle and international marketing tie-ins.

We are in the throes of dealing with the first requisite for becoming a "big club " in the modern sense, which is to develop a big-club-sized stadium. We are also pursuing key global promotional partnerships, e.g., with the NFL, to increase our brand recognition. If we can manage to win a Premiership title or two and to compete in the CL on an every-other-year basis, as opposed to occasionally, then this will attract of millions of fans in other countries and will further increase our profile and our financial clout.

But it will take another decade to achieve, even with a fair wind and on-pitch success. Even if we achieve it, we will not be able to reach the level of Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, because they have too big a head start.

Barking out that "we are a big club" doesn't cut it; it doesn't convince anyone outside the Spurs echo chamber.
 

tototoner

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Mar 21, 2004
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Except that he hasn't and we aren't. It's just hubris to suggest so. Being a "big club" does not result from a couple of Champions League campaigns, nor even if we win the Premiership once or twice. It has to do with having a huge worldwide fanbase, a 60k+ stadium, a global "brand" [hate that word] and a history of dominance measured in decades. It also has to do with financial muscle and international marketing tie-ins.

We are in the throes of dealing with the first requisite for becoming a "big club " in the modern sense, which is to develop a big-club-sized stadium. We are also pursuing key global promotional partnerships, e.g., with the NFL, to increase our brand recognition. If we can manage to win a Premiership title or two and to compete in the CL on an every-other-year basis, as opposed to occasionally, then this will attract of millions of fans in other countries and will further increase our profile and our financial clout.

But it will take another decade to achieve, even with a fair wind and on-pitch success. Even if we achieve it, we will not be able to reach the level of Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, because they have too big a head start.

Barking out that "we are a big club" doesn't cut it; it doesn't convince anyone outside the Spurs echo chamber.

We're the 12 biggest football club by revenue in the world right now, that's without the new stadium and without regular CL participation, we are a lot closer to being a "big club" than you give us credit for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2014.E2.80.9315
 

Sir Henry

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Aug 18, 2008
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"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

That IS actually being disrecpectful, its like saying, I'm not racist but I dont like white people.
 

Basil Brush

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Aug 20, 2013
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By "fly under the radar" do you mean not actually be any good? People talk about good exciting teams. Can't have one without the other.
What i meant is we are a team that cant seem to handle expectations. That was the reason for my examples.

However under Poch, things seem to be improving.
 
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