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Player Watch: Moussa Sissoko

HobbitSpur

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Amazing.

He was literally the only Spurs player on the pitch yesterday who tried to have a real go, let loose and try something other than a sideways or backwards safety pass.

We've missed that since a Welshman left.

Simon Davies?? I though he was quite good, but never thought we really missed him
 

millsey

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He needs to play through the middle. On Sunday it should have been Dele who went off for him.
Where are people seeing the skill set that he can play through the middle? His touch is terrible, he can't pass and he just try's to boot it past someone and run? Once he loses the ball in the middle we will be under attack. I want him nowhere near the spine of the team
 

CJMurray

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Where are people seeing the skill set that he can play through the middle? His touch is terrible, he can't pass and he just try's to boot it past someone and run? Once he loses the ball in the middle we will be under attack. I want him nowhere near the spine of the team

Agree. Credit to him he looked dangerous against United but you can't play knock and run past your player in the middle of the pitch.

It still staggers me that we spent £30m on someone who really looks like he has no idea what to do with the ball at his feet. Kind of just stutters and shakes his legs as he works out what to do with it.
 

philip

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Where are people seeing the skill set that he can play through the middle? His touch is terrible, he can't pass and he just try's to boot it past someone and run? Once he loses the ball in the middle we will be under attack. I want him nowhere near the spine of the team

With either two of Wanyama, Dembele &/or Dier behind him I wouldn't be worried.

Facts are that defences that are constantly being run at and taken on are going to be pushed back and are highly likely to give the ball away and make mistakes.

Our high press is quite a safe one which doesn't result in opposition mistakes and too many decent chances. Someone like Sissoko barreling through the middle would create that uncertainty and worry for the opposition defence and create the chances we need.
 

Spurrific

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I didn't think he looked particularly dangerous against United, he looked like he could run past Darmian - that's about it. As soon as he did get past him, nothing at all happened. I've literally never seen him with his head up.
 

double0

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We all know Sissoko isn't worth the reported 30M, however he is a good option to have In certain games starting and come off the bench

We need to get another craft player in the squad though to help challenge Eriksen
 

ajspurs

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I didn't think he looked particularly dangerous against United, he looked like he could run past Darmian - that's about it. As soon as he did get past him, nothing at all happened. I've literally never seen him with his head up.

He did nothing groundbreaking by any means but he still provided more attacking prowess than anyone else in our team, and that was after only being on the pitch for 10 minutes. He could run past someone an attempt a cross, seems basic, but no other attacking player really managed it. He looked like the only player who even wanted to force through something to happen so I appreciated the effort and intent if nothing else.
 

HildoSpur

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He showed signs that he could yet be a decent player for us. The guy needs time but unfortunately many people had their mind made up on him as soon as the signing was announced.
 

CJMurray

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I didn't think he looked particularly dangerous against United, he looked like he could run past Darmian - that's about it. As soon as he did get past him, nothing at all happened. I've literally never seen him with his head up.

He looked far more dangerous than Nkoudou and Son who were content to just dribble 5 yards and just lay the ball off sideways. At least Sissoko beat his man.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Beat your man. Things happen. Not 100% of the time, but sometimes.

Run into a dead end and lose the ball. Nothing happens. Ever.

Pass back to the keeper 37 times a match, fans stop going to matches.
 

Spurrific

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He looked far more dangerous than Nkoudou and Son who were content to just dribble 5 yards and just lay the ball off sideways. At least Sissoko beat his man.

What danger did he create? I agree Son was no better, Nkoudou only had about 5 minutes I thought, again agree that he didn't look dangerous. I'm not comparing him to anybody though, I was just commenting on the assertion that he looked dangerous - which I don't particularly agree with. He looked lively, rather than dangerous imo.

Beat your man. Things happen. Not 100% of the time, but sometimes.

Run into a dead end and lose the ball. Nothing happens. Ever.

Pass back to the keeper 37 times a match, fans stop going to matches.

There is no point in him beating his man if his crosses end up closer to the halfway line than the opposition box.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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What danger did he create? I agree Son was no better, Nkoudou only had about 5 minutes I thought, again agree that he didn't look dangerous. I'm not comparing him to anybody though, I was just commenting on the assertion that he looked dangerous - which I don't particularly agree with. He looked lively, rather than dangerous imo.



There is no point in him beating his man if his crosses end up closer to the halfway line than the opposition box.

I think you're choosing to recall it differently. More often than not there was no one to cross long to and on a number of occasions, he did get short balls to team mates who then just gave it away.
There is ALWAYS a point trying to beat your man, doing so increases your chance of making something happen. Whether you choose to admit it or not, more things happened after he came on and started not being cautious and playing pointless safety passes all the time.
We will struggle to score all the while we don't try anything other then sideways passes around the box and in the centre circle.
 

CJMurray

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What danger did he create? I agree Son was no better, Nkoudou only had about 5 minutes I thought, again agree that he didn't look dangerous. I'm not comparing him to anybody though, I was just commenting on the assertion that he looked dangerous - which I don't particularly agree with. He looked lively, rather than dangerous imo.



There is no point in him beating his man if his crosses end up closer to the halfway line than the opposition box.

He almost won a penalty pretty late on when he went past Darmian(?) in the box. Look I'm not saying he was great, his end product was iffy but at least he tried *something*. Beating a man, which he did 3/4 times, and putting in crosses is more dangerous than just slowly passing the ball around sideways in their half.
 

Japhet

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Agree. Credit to him he looked dangerous against United but you can't play knock and run past your player in the middle of the pitch.

It still staggers me that we spent £30m on someone who really looks like he has no idea what to do with the ball at his feet. Kind of just stutters and shakes his legs as he works out what to do with it.


It's called 'Dad dancing'.
 

Rodrigonodefendi

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What danger did he create? I agree Son was no better, Nkoudou only had about 5 minutes I thought, again agree that he didn't look dangerous. I'm not comparing him to anybody though, I was just commenting on the assertion that he looked dangerous - which I don't particularly agree with. He looked lively, rather than dangerous imo.



There is no point in him beating his man if his crosses end up closer to the halfway line than the opposition box.

I´m not the biggest fan of Sissoko but clearly he gave us more than just fresh legs. He did try to create something.
BTW wasn´t he the one who played the great pass between two players to almost send Kane clear hadn´t it been for Rojos foul on Kane? Prefer that from a classic scott parker 180 on the edge of the penaltybox followed by a pass home to verts or toby...
 

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Simon Davies?? I though he was quite good, but never thought we really missed him
That reminds me. I met Simon Davies (a player I really rated) at Malaga Airport a few months ago. He was in departures with his wife and two small kids. I don't usually speak to anyone in that situation but had a while to go before my flight so went over and spoke to him, apologising for disturbing them.
He was an absolute gent, introducing me to his wife and kids. Really nice guy and made me glad I went over to him.
 

E17yid

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Andros, who's Spurs through and through, got dogs abuse for years even when he put in better performances than what Sissoko put in against Utd.

As spurific said, he never lifts his head up (even less than Townsend) and generally his end product is poor. I'd give him the season but if there isn't signs of any improvement I'd bin him off in the summer.
 

kungfugrip

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Andros, who's Spurs through and through, got dogs abuse for years even when he put in better performances than what Sissoko put in against Utd.

As spurific said, he never lifts his head up (even less than Townsend) and generally his end product is poor. I'd give him the season but if there isn't signs of any improvement I'd bin him off in the summer.

But you have to take into account what he's done until this point (a big fat zero) and what the rest of the team had collectively and individually managed until Sissoko came on in that match (again, basically zero). He had an impact. He forced Mourinho into re-arranging his team to combat his threat. In the context of that particular game, he had a good performance.
 
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