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Coyboy

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Technique, physical attributes, all round game play, effect on a big game, end product and finishing. Don't get me wrong Son is a good squad player but we all saw what Mane did to us at Anfield.

Yeah, scored to goals that were gifted to him on a silver platter.

You're probably right, Mane is arguably the better player but you're doing Son a huge disservice by calling him a "good squad player".
 

GetSpurredOn

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IMO, Wimmer is a much better CB than Davies will ever be and Davies also doesn't cover Rose particularly well. If anything, I'd look to upgrade Davies. Wimmer was excellent last season when Vertonghen was out. Maybe he wasn't so good this season but he hardly had a chance to settle in.

In an ideal world Wimmer would be the ideal Vertonghen cover, but when played at LCB in a three this year, he hasn't looked nearly as impressive as he did at CB in a back 4 last season. Arguably I'd rather keep Wimmer as LCB and replace Davies with a more suitable LB/LWB option, but Wimmer's apparent lack of favour and Davies recent new deal suggests it'll be Wimmer out and Davies staying but moving to LCB cover.

I'll be happy with Zaha, Barkley and Seggesson and will probably expect Wimmer and Sissoko to leave.

I'm pretty much onboard with this, although I still feel we need someone to either cover Dier as a starter back 3 player, or cover Wanyama as DM, I don't think Dier can do both.
If we stay with a back 3 and designated DM, then we need 7 players to cover those 4 spots if we want to stay competitive across all competitions. We currently have 6, and that includes Wimmer.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Wimmer
DM - Wanyama

We have no natural deputies for Toby or Victor, the two players in the spine of the team. Arguably rumour suggests Wimmer could be off in search of regular football, and the theory is Davies will become the LCB cover with a specialist LB/LWB bought in to compete with Rose.
In my opinion, we either bring in an designated DM to compete with Wanyama and leave Dier to concentrate on CB, or else bring in another player capabale of playing CB and RCB, allowing Dier to go back to DM. Here's where I'd like the Kondogbia rumours to be true, apparently we are watching him. He can play DM and LCB. That'd give us a choice of three DM options, all three of which could cover the back 3 also.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Davies
DM - Wanyama, Kondogbia

Surely the Wimmer and Bentaleb sales could cover the signings of Kondogbia and potentially Sessegnon.
 

Blake Griffin

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In an ideal world Wimmer would be the ideal Vertonghen cover, but when played at LCB in a three this year, he hasn't looked nearly as impressive as he did at CB in a back 4 last season. Arguably I'd rather keep Wimmer as LCB and replace Davies with a more suitable LB/LWB option, but Wimmer's apparent lack of favour and Davies recent new deal suggests it'll be Wimmer out and Davies staying but moving to LCB cover.



I'm pretty much onboard with this, although I still feel we need someone to either cover Dier as a starter back 3 player, or cover Wanyama as DM, I don't think Dier can do both.
If we stay with a back 3 and designated DM, then we need 7 players to cover those 4 spots if we want to stay competitive across all competitions. We currently have 6, and that includes Wimmer.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Wimmer
DM - Wanyama

We have no natural deputies for Toby or Victor, the two players in the spine of the team. Arguably rumour suggests Wimmer could be off in search of regular football, and the theory is Davies will become the LCB cover with a specialist LB/LWB bought in to compete with Rose.
In my opinion, we either bring in an designated DM to compete with Wanyama and leave Dier to concentrate on CB, or else bring in another player capabale of playing CB and RCB, allowing Dier to go back to DM. Here's where I'd like the Kondogbia rumours to be true, apparently we are watching him. He can play DM and LCB. That'd give us a choice of three DM options, all three of which could cover the back 3 also.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Davies
DM - Wanyama, Kondogbia

Surely the Wimmer and Bentaleb sales could cover the signings of Kondogbia and potentially Sessegnon.

why do you like kondogbia so much? whenever i see him i just think he looks awkward and uncoordinated, not particularly dynamic on the ball and i think he lacks the agility to get near top players. he's just a big physical guy but that's about it, he's not even a certain starter for a pretty mediocre inter side.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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IMO he has something special it is just he is not getting the service or the playing time.
He's had the same service Kane gets. Bottom line is he has struggled with the pace of the Prem and lost a bit of confidence.

My view is it wont do any harm to give him another season, especially when you think his value probably cant get much lower than it is right now. Hopefully he can get a bit of momentum and carry on improving his fitness and he could do a job.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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It's this kind of information that presented to me at the wrong time-when I'm sleep deprived, reading Hamlet or having just eaten an especially delicious full English breakfast reminiscent of Sunday mornings at mothers-that I'm liable to weep,without restraint or regard to my fellow man, in public. I both salute and begrudge you, sir
 

Tyler24durden

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For me, I think wimmer, bentaleb, sissoko, Janssen, Gnk and possibly Davies will be sold.

This will generate £80-£90m.

Then we need to add quality:

Jonathan Tah £25-£30m. (CB)

This gives us Toby, Verts, Tah as the 1st choice back 3, with CCV being allowed time to develop as a sub and Dier adding cover.

Sessegnon (LB) to be understudy to Rose.
Tierney as 2nd choice if we miss out on Sessegnon.

Tielemans (CM/AM) £25m - offers competition to Eriksen and Alli, adds pace and creativity and can cover in midfield also.

Son and Lamela with Edwards being brought in slowly adds great depth.

Batshuyai £30m to put pressure on Kane and offer a more physical option to us. Adds pace and goals.
Unlikely that Chelsea would sell to us but you never know.
Think he's a real talent and will the other Belgium lads, bring in London already and Poch can develop him further.

Alternatives? Dolberg is interesting and would suit our style of play.
Lacazette would be ideal but will probably be too much for us with the other clubs interested.
Plenty of choices out there but probably the hardest one to get as so many clubs want good strikers.

These are the types of players that can improve is, are young, hard working and would fit in with the type of team we are imo.
 

GetSpurredOn

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why do you like kondogbia so much? whenever i see him i just think he looks awkward and uncoordinated, not particularly dynamic on the ball and i think he lacks the agility to get near top players. he's just a big physical guy but that's about it, he's not even a certain starter for a pretty mediocre inter side.

Some stated similar things about Wanyama. I must just have different views, I think Kondogbia looks rangy, athletic and dynamic. Decent passing range, wins a fair amount of turnovers and distributes forward simply. Suppose everyone sees things a little different. The fact he's not the first name on the team sheet suggests he'd be available.
 

Japhet

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In an ideal world Wimmer would be the ideal Vertonghen cover, but when played at LCB in a three this year, he hasn't looked nearly as impressive as he did at CB in a back 4 last season. Arguably I'd rather keep Wimmer as LCB and replace Davies with a more suitable LB/LWB option, but Wimmer's apparent lack of favour and Davies recent new deal suggests it'll be Wimmer out and Davies staying but moving to LCB cover.



I'm pretty much onboard with this, although I still feel we need someone to either cover Dier as a starter back 3 player, or cover Wanyama as DM, I don't think Dier can do both.
If we stay with a back 3 and designated DM, then we need 7 players to cover those 4 spots if we want to stay competitive across all competitions. We currently have 6, and that includes Wimmer.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Wimmer
DM - Wanyama

We have no natural deputies for Toby or Victor, the two players in the spine of the team. Arguably rumour suggests Wimmer could be off in search of regular football, and the theory is Davies will become the LCB cover with a specialist LB/LWB bought in to compete with Rose.
In my opinion, we either bring in an designated DM to compete with Wanyama and leave Dier to concentrate on CB, or else bring in another player capabale of playing CB and RCB, allowing Dier to go back to DM. Here's where I'd like the Kondogbia rumours to be true, apparently we are watching him. He can play DM and LCB. That'd give us a choice of three DM options, all three of which could cover the back 3 also.
RCB - Dier, Carter-Vickers
CB - Alderweireld
LCB - Vertonghen, Davies
DM - Wanyama, Kondogbia

Surely the Wimmer and Bentaleb sales could cover the signings of Kondogbia and potentially Sessegnon.


Wimmer was fine when he played between Alderweireld and Vertonghen. Davies has looked very suspect defensively on several occasions (e.g.Swansea) and doesn't give us anywhere near enough going forward. I really don't like the idea of him covering Vertonghen at LCB. I also think Sessegnon is nowhere near EPL ready yet, but obviously has huge potential. I'd see him as a buy and loan out signing which doesn't address LWB.
 

Vincent30

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All i know is we are in a very good position, proving to players we are a top club challenging for the title now, with one of the very best managers in the world at developing talent, with the addition of being based in London and a lovely new stadium on the way. I agree we don't need to make wholesale changes. We will go into this window in the strongest position we have been in many many years. So far we have been linked to the players that i'm sure most would agree would strengthen us.

Zaha whilst dividing opinion is improving and could turn into an absolute gem and something we don't have currently. Naby Keita would be immense, Sessegnon is showing amazing potential. These type of players like Isco, Coric, Barkley etc will definitely improve our squad as a whole and that's what we need for the journey of a whole season these days playing at the top level.

I think Vinny is proving a good backup to Kane, i'm still at a loss why people want rid of a young guy who is showing a great attitude. Batshuyai hasn't blown Chelsea away and they won't sell to us, Lacazette won't come to be the number 2, he is number 1 etc. People say plenty of choices? But can never give a viable, realistic answer to who will be our number 2 striker. Give Vinny a little more credit. Stability is a key factor to success.

Look at our goal difference, we are one of the best teams going forward and have the best defence this season. We have been without Lamela all year, we have the emergence of Edwards and especially Winks next year. We hold on to Kane, Dele, Toby, Dembele, Hugo we are all set for next year. As above my perfect 3 would be Zaha, Naby Keita and Sessegnon. The CB position might be something that needs to be reviewed, depending on Wimmer and CCV development.

I, for one am extremely excited.
 

millsey

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Watch him a lot do you? Haven't seen Fulham on tv much this season
 

scat1620

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Watch him a lot do you? Haven't seen Fulham on tv much this season
Seen as much if Sessegnon as I saw of Bale before we signed him, and I was desperate for Bale to sign too. Feel free to rate this post Winner at your convenience.
 

millsey

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Dec 8, 2005
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Seen as much if Sessegnon as I saw of Bale before we signed him, and I was desperate for Bale to sign too. Feel free to rate this post Winner at your convenience.
So you go to Fulham games then? Or do you stream there games when they play?
 

scat1620

L'espion mal fait
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So you go to Fulham games then? Or do you stream there games when they play?
Just the Newcastle game as a live watch this season, plus what highlight footage I've seen on YouTube. Sorry to disappoint you, millsey, but I'm not a football scout and yet I do want us to sign Ryan Sessegnon, as mutually exclusive as those two things seem to be. :rolleyes:
 

millsey

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Just the Newcastle game as a live watch this season, plus what highlight footage I've seen on YouTube. Sorry to disappoint you, millsey, but I'm not a football scout and yet I do want us to sign Ryan Sessegnon, as mutually exclusive as those two things seem to be. :rolleyes:
Newcastle game wasn't on tv. That's fine if you want to pick players by YouTube, just hope the club don't
 

scat1620

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Newcastle game wasn't on tv. That's fine if you want to pick players by YouTube, just hope the club don't
You win, millsey, was convinced I had watched the Newcastle game but it must have just been highlights of that too. And you also win in that I'm not in any way qualified to be running recruitment at Spurs, almost like I'm just a random fan posting an opinion on a message board.
 
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