wrong.. the only thing we came close to is ambition... we were never in sight of passing them, we were just chasing them, so now our players will be affected, then they got mental prob, if that's the case, don't try so it wont effect us
The race for the title
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One point occurs to me.
Last season I enjoyed and was of the opinion it was a bit of a freak season. The rich boys had an off season and Leicester and ourselves (for different reasons) challenged at the top. We all expected Jose, Pep, Conte and Klopp to improve their sides dramatically and indeed this was the case with Conte and Chelsea. I was hoping but not expecting a top four finish. One more point and we will finish second and be the only side to push Chelsea at all.
This shows consistent development and whilst I don't know who will improve next season I now expect us to be a challenger for the title (wembley being the unknown quantity). Believe!
Last season I enjoyed and was of the opinion it was a bit of a freak season. The rich boys had an off season and Leicester and ourselves (for different reasons) challenged at the top. We all expected Jose, Pep, Conte and Klopp to improve their sides dramatically and indeed this was the case with Conte and Chelsea. I was hoping but not expecting a top four finish. One more point and we will finish second and be the only side to push Chelsea at all.
This shows consistent development and whilst I don't know who will improve next season I now expect us to be a challenger for the title (wembley being the unknown quantity). Believe!
We can make Wembley work for us. Our record there this season isn't great but we've only played one English team there, a game we dominated and probably deserved to win, and against the champions. It wasn't a home game either, it was a neutral venue so equal amount of fans.
We struggled against technically superior sides from Europe who had the game 'nous' to get the better of us. There's not any side in English football right now who have that sort of quality or nous, bar maybe Chelsea.
With an addition or two, one with real pace hopefully so we can stretch sides, we can even make Wembley a fucking fortress!
I reckon we'll smash those outside the big 6.
We struggled against technically superior sides from Europe who had the game 'nous' to get the better of us. There's not any side in English football right now who have that sort of quality or nous, bar maybe Chelsea.
With an addition or two, one with real pace hopefully so we can stretch sides, we can even make Wembley a fucking fortress!
I reckon we'll smash those outside the big 6.
Lilbaz
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Only just seen how bald Conte was going before his three hair transplants... Now THAT is impressive
He changed his shirt aswell.
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'It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory.'
I'm immensely proud of the boys this season for pushing Chelsea right until the end. All the pundits thought it was over in February but we made sure that they had to earn it the hard way, and despite falling short we should recognise that this will be a record high finish and record points total in the premier league for us. We will win the premier league in the next few years, with this team and this manager it's an inevitability.
I'm immensely proud of the boys this season for pushing Chelsea right until the end. All the pundits thought it was over in February but we made sure that they had to earn it the hard way, and despite falling short we should recognise that this will be a record high finish and record points total in the premier league for us. We will win the premier league in the next few years, with this team and this manager it's an inevitability.
danielneeds
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No Shame in saying Chelsea have been the best team this year. We've lost less games, and have the better defence, but they just handle the big moments better. 12 games won in row is phenomenal too.
This is the level we're fighting at now. Top players and top coaches like Conte. You've got to leave everything on the pitch every game. Hopefully we can put on a real fight in the CL next season too, and get rid of the Wembley hoo-doo bullshit. It's not going to be the Lane, but we can make it ours for a season.
This is the level we're fighting at now. Top players and top coaches like Conte. You've got to leave everything on the pitch every game. Hopefully we can put on a real fight in the CL next season too, and get rid of the Wembley hoo-doo bullshit. It's not going to be the Lane, but we can make it ours for a season.
TheHood
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It's quite a remarkable achievement on Conte's part to stand one game away from the double in his first season. That seems to be going unnoticed by many, not only is it his first season but he also inherited a toxic dressing room that finished mid table the previous season. The absence of European football is a fatous argument given the other cumstances at play.
danielneeds
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I think this part is massively overplayed. The dressing room was only toxic because of Mourinho, and they wanted rid of him and his bullshit. By the time it happened, their season was pretty much over, so they had nothing to play for. Conte walked into a very good situation, but he's absolutely made the most of it.
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It wasn't just Mourhino there are strong rumours that cliques in the dressing room and let's not forget Jose was sacked in December, things didn't improve that much under Hiddink.
danielneeds
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My point was by December the season was wrecked, so it was very difficult to get things back on track. All dressing rooms have cliques anyway. The main reason people stopped playing was Mourinho and his increasingly maniacal behaviour and defensive tactics.
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Sadly they do and we have ended up with another season with zero trophies. That is 26 years since we have won a truly big trophy, League Cups are a joke these days, and no matter how you dress it up that's not good enough.
Were we ever in the title race? Only one occasion this season did we have chance to go top, away at WBA after beating City, and like usual choked at the chance. We went on to draw a number of games after that which ended our title hopes there and then. Our true chance of silverware came in the EL and FA cup but yet again we found ways of getting ourselves knocked out in ways only THFC can.
Due to our wage structure most of our players will be coveted this summer, can you really blame them if they view their futures elsewhere earning double/treble the money and at clubs who know how to get 'over the line'.....?
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I think you can give a lot of praise to Conte for taking advantage of the fact that they have no Europe. It's a huge advantage to have but still you have to get your players to go out and perform week in week out and they mostly have to be fair.
I maintain that we will see a much tighter race next season with all teams being in Europe. Clearly we've coped with it better than anyone this season but every season is different and then there's the Wembley factor.
I maintain that we will see a much tighter race next season with all teams being in Europe. Clearly we've coped with it better than anyone this season but every season is different and then there's the Wembley factor.
danielneeds
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Nice positive post there.
Don't you at all appreciate the way we've clawed our way back from the end of the Sugar regime, where on and off the pitch we we were a club closer to being relegated than one that competed for any honours, to a club that is united, competitive and looks ready to take that next step to major trophies?
We've come so far under Levy, the club is on the cusp of great things, again on and off the pitch, and it'll taste so much sweeter if and when it comes, because we'll know we've earned it. It's time to hold fast, try to ignore the rumour mill, and have faith in Poch and Levy, who've shown that they are becoming an increasingly tight knit team, who have a plan for the future.
TheHood
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Sugar left 16 years ago, there is whole new generation of supporters who weren't even around then. I'm not sure of the point in referencing to that period given timescales and given that as disasterous as he was his tenure resulted in more silverware than the current owners.
danielneeds
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Because it was so disastrous, that by the end, I believe the actual soul of the club was damaged. It's been a long road back. Restoring the heart and soul inside the club, the people who work there, what the club means, how it treats people, all of that was damaged by Sugar. And then it's taken us a long time, and the bit of luck in finding this genius manager, who could turn us into a club where we have to win each and every week again, where losing is not acceptable anymore.
TheHood
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That's fine but there surely must be a time where we move on from this when it's not far off nearly two decades? ENIC should be judged on their tenure, they have had enough time now. They have done a huge amount for the club absolutely but this obsession that they have with the CL has also been extremely damaging.
danielneeds
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Well I understand they have to be judged on their record, but unless you've got unlimited Chelsea or City resources a football club is a bit like an oil tanker, slow to turn around.
I don't see how any CL obsession has been damaging, most of the domestic cups in the last 15 years have been won by the teams regularly competing in the CL anyway. So it's a chicken and egg situation.
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Most but not all and we have had side good enough since 2005 to win the domestic cups. If we didn't then I could live with that but that is not the case and certainly not since the start of the '10s. And let's not forget the UEFA cup which we have consistently been a disaster in despite often being the wealthiest club in it. ENIC like all of the other moneymen are only really interested in the commercial aspect of the game which is why they are all obbessed with CL revenues. The prioritisation of that is what is so damaging because everything else becomes secondary. Arsenal are a club that embodies that, we are not far of that and Liverpool are heading that way as well.