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Spurrific

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Are you seriously complaining over a rating? Really? And in the ITK thread, no less? Come on, mate. You're better than this.

In what sense does it look like I'm complaining about a rating? I was making a joke-y observational post. I don't even think he's negged me, you chundering minge.
 
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I see @[email protected] is negging anybody that speaks positively about Levy whilst loving those in the anti camp. If only there were some way for us to get in touch with him away from the forum to discuss his viewpoint further :(
It's a fair comment Spurrific! Just trying to redress the balance, mate: the BSoDL are out in force, running around with their fingers in their ears refusing to accept or believe the second piece of ITK criticising daddy dearest. I thought people took a dim view on ITK-bashing?
 

0-Tibsy-0

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While i'm more than content to believe there is some truth in what The Goat says in regards frustrations, it simply reads as someone who has a personal distaste for Daniel Levy and with that personal slant it takes away much of the validity of the information.

I believe there are frustrations, but in my humble opinion the information is an exaggeration of those to substantiate their personal and negative opinion of Levy.

Some truth, but not the whole story.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I'm surprised people aren't reading more into the tone of voice. It's bitchy and resentful and snide throughout, with the constant references to "the man at the top". I'm surmising that The Goat is using direct quotations from the source, because that tone is consistent and atypical.
Funnily enough, I was in fact thinking "sounds plausible", because I found the language to be plain, matter of factly, actually void of bitchy resentfulnessm and in a prose that the Goat usually does use.
 

codspur

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I am sure Levy has ballsed up and over complicated deals last minute and that it has bitten him in the arse, There is too much smoke here over the years for there to be no fire.
I am sure he has done some wonderful and much needed stuff for the infrastructure of our club (training ground, stadium etc)
I am also sure half the people moaning about his difficulty to complete transfers through trying to wring every last drop of value from them are also gleefully extolling how clubs trying to buy from us are 'gonna get Levyd' .

What i don't understand is why Poch would have sat in front of the press saying how wonderful Levy is and how he believed in the project...surely just say nothing. I don't believe for a minute he did it thinking Flattery would make Levy soften his stance on transfer dealings as Poch is a bright boy.

I also get a real sense that a lot of the ITK comes through Agents and even though they may work for the club they will surely have a vested financial interest. In the work they put in lining up players fails to actually come to fruition they will understandably be a bit pissed off. Which would help to explain the clear frustration from the Goats latest ITK.

Anyway this is all just my onion and I hope that the picture isn't as bleak as the Goats source paints it.
 

Trix

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Levy has made tons of mistakes, and I'm sure he will make many more. For every member of the so called BSODL though there is another Spurs fan that dislikes Levy so much that just about everything is his fault.

Yet we are where we are.
 
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When the stadium build is finished and we as Spurs supporters reflect on the LEVY years, I for one will feel that the 16 years of mediocracy on the pitch will be far outweighed by the return we will receive as a club by that state- of - the -art Stadium.
Wow, spoken like a true ENIC stakeholder. Call me old-fashioned, but I personally think true supporters are more interested in the quality and success of the football team.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Irregardless of whats potentially true and what isn't, Levy definitely has previous of this.

There was the story involving Guiseppe Rossi, whereby there were tough negotiations with his club and Levy. Levy eventually whittled them down to a price that was agreeable, hands were shook and Rossi was set to move. All parties went to bed, then the next morning Levy phoned up and tried to extract another discount which Rossi's club were outraged at and the whole deal blew up. From what I remember, this actually occurred a window or two before a glut of further ITK came about us potentially signing Rossi, and at some point was confirmed by quotes from Rossi. It was a while ago now though.

Big fan of Levy, but he can be a difficult one at times !
 

Lilbaz

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It's a fair comment Spurrific! Just trying to redress the balance, mate: the BSoDL are out in force, running around with their fingers in their ears refusing to accept or believe the second piece of ITK criticising daddy dearest. I thought people took a dim view on ITK-bashing?

Seeing as we've had edomonton, alli, trix and ben pooh pooing bits of it. There might be reason for some scepticism.
 
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Colonel Dax

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Did you read ANY of what The Goat posted? Of course a deal was agreed. Then last minute-itus stepped in. Fuck my old boots, some people are so far into the great Egyptian river they'd need the cast of Baywatch to pull them out :D

Indeed. The Goat - the actual ITK platform of this very site - releases some info and it is shot down. Full-on fingers in ears, "we're not listening" defiance. Quite amusing really. There is a sense of denialism by some on here, an obdurate non-acceptance of any information that casts doubt on Levy's capabilities.

Even if Levy himself came out and told the BSoDL that he is the devil incarnate, an Arsenal fan and wants to shag all of their wives, they would claim it was an imposter or a hologram or something.
 

St José Dominguez

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What makes it difficult to believe is that Poch is renowned for preferring to develop youth than buy players. He's not a Mourinho or Pep where he has to chuck money at a position. I really stuggle to believe he's the type of manager who'd quit because of transfers, I think he'd quit if some of the players were sold though.

Also the stuff at the end sounds like it's written by the typical "sign everyone no matter what" spurs fan. Willian fell through because of Levy? Seriously?
In today's modern age I just don't see how there's any way an agreed fee would not be mentioned somewhere in media, or even a bid for a player. It's all been interest, interest, considering a bid/approach this summer.
 

Nocando

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Fuck me this is quite something. I appreciate the passion / interest and dedication to interpret text one way or the other, but wow I do sometimes wonder how the country survives. Regardless of the 'tone' (puke) I don't even think it's that revolutionary. Maybe I need to read it several times again and disect it a bit more. Nah fuck it, the suns shining.
 

ParlyCicton

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Levy's main concern now is to keep both Poch and key players happy. One way he can do that is by sanctioning the Barkley deal. He knows Poch is the best manager for the club at our current state with academy players. I just hope Poch and Levy are always talking about how they can add depth for not silly money.

It must really be getting to Levy that the value of average players has inflated to prices where it doesn't make sense for him. I understand the added revenue from tv etc but he has been in this game a long time now (since 01) and he has seen a lot of expensive flops. I guess he doesn't see the acumin anymore and is frightened to take the leap.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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Indeed. The Goat - the actual ITK platform of this very site - releases some info and it is shot down. Full-on fingers in ears, "we're not listening" defiance. Quite amusing really. There is a sense of denialism by some on here, an obdurate non-acceptance of any information that casts doubt on Levy's capabilities.

Even if Levy himself came out and told the BSoDL that he is the devil incarnate, an Arsenal fan and wants to shag all of their wives, they would claim it was an imposter or a hologram or something.

"Levy cocks up transfers and pisses people off."

That's not in dispute.

"Levy is a failure."

That is.
 

james Stock

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No disrespect to anyone, but the best ITK to date is Poch's statement that no player will leave that we want to keep. In addition he stated that we were not in a position to pay fees and wages that some of our competitors can afford. So why would have the shits now, we presumably have irons in the fire and there have been no departures.

Do I believe the Goat or the manager?
 

dirtyh

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just another consequence for me of this bullshit informational age/culture where everyone has to know everything about everything and everyone all of the time. Simple comments/opinions are always taken out of all context and analyzed/re-analyzed (careful A&C - it doesn't mean what you think it means ;)) and beds get wet at the slightest thing.

talkshowhost's post above this says everything. to have what we have and compete where we are is nothing short of a miracle and so what if levy's a pain in the ass to deal with and cost us a deal here and there, there may be just as many he's got over the line that we don't hear about. We've come 3rd and second consecutively ffs and if you can't see (albeit via the odd blip) the upward spiral we're on then so be it, there's no hope for you.

The one thing i will say is that Poch is tailor made for us and even our financial structure given his outlook on promoting youth. Hence, whilst i'm clearly a bsodl, if levy fucks up that relationship then there's no way back.

I long for the days of teletext when that was the limit of what we knew was going on, or thought we knew.
 

DiscoD1882

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We all have a friend like Levy. Always Last to the bar. Unless of course you are in Wetherspoons. Then he cant wait to get his wallet out. He Gets too drunk too quickly and cant handle strong beer. He will probably also try to fight you at the end of the night. Or cause you to get in a fight he started. But if you need him he is there for you. god bless him.
 
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