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Okay I'm probably being dim but what does RO mean?
Reverse Oral
Okay I'm probably being dim but what does RO mean?
Eh? I don't mean me at all. I have spoken completely objectively and not given my own opinion at all.When you say some fans you mean you! Other footballers like John Terry who are just as culpable in there behaviour and utterance are given a second chance without any fuss. Need to step off your high horse a bit.
CRINGE.He better show up for a session with LGBT Spurs. It can't be that difficult to arrange.
He better show up for a session with LGBT Spurs. It can't be that difficult to arrange.
I enjoy some of this bloke's articles but, honestly, some of the hand-wringing over Aurier has been way, way over the top. Initially from the Americans at SB Nation, followed by a few others jumping on the bandwagon.
A kid - probably not a very well educated kid - did something dumb.
He issued an apology. Yet because he didn't specifically say precisely he was sorry for, these people want our club to dig it up again and publically drag him through some PR exercise?
It's a nonsense.
I would agree that there is a sensible discussion to be had here about academies doing more to educate kids who are - often due to socio-economic reasons - not very bright and in a bit of a macho bubble from a young age. But that's an issue for football as a whole, not just this one player.
I could offer a very cynical observation as to why a few of these bloggers have decided to latch on to this particular story and press it the way they have, but I honestly think everyone just needs to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he's learned from past mistakes.
Of course, if he repeats the same mistakes at Spurs then it's something we will need to deal with head-on.
...I am nearly 50 and have heard far worse in many casual conversations...
Does this actually make you cringe? Would someone with a past of racist offences apologising and trying to repair the damage be an offence to you as well?CRINGE.
I agree what he said was wrong and stupid but it's done and people need to move on.I keep seeing this reasoning and rolling my eyes.
There is a big difference between a "casual conversation" as Joe-nobody (sorry but that's me too) and a social media broadcast as a public figure.
It's why the media has scheduled interviews after games and not cameras in the locker rooms. The managers and players need a place to speak freely without outside judgement. That information is not, and should not be made public. If they want to air their grievances publicly, there are better ways to do it.
I really do think you do our LGBT fans a disservice if you think someone expressing his disatisfaction at what he perceives as favouitism in an ignorant offensive way is going to leave them feeling unsafe to go to a Spurs game. What do you think they are a bunch of shrinking violets? Not sure any that I know would be scared off by this.It's hard to "move on" when Spurs fans react to his potential transfer like this and this and this and this and now even stalking a writer (who is not an American).
Is it overreacting if an LGBT fan doesn't feel safe to go to a Spurs game now? Or even speak their mind? And why are people jumping to defend Aurier before our own fans, he's not even kicked a ball for us yet?
The obvious thinking is "if it doesn't effect me, then no one else should care about it."
But after we've been linked with other RBs around the same price or even cheaper than Aurier, I don't see why it's such a crime to want one of them instead of a player who called his manager a "f*ggot" said he sucks Zlatan and "takes his whole balls" on social media three days before a R16 UCL match against Chelsea and then fakes an apology so poorly that Al-Kalaifi punched a door and multiple teammates wanted him off the squad. If it's okay to call Rose a snake after he says he wants to leave, I find it incredibly hypocritical to tell people they shouldn't have a problem with Aurier.
The fans are the reason the club continues to run, we may not be on the pitch or in the boardroom but without us there is no new stadium or £40m+ signing. Personally I'm proud we have fans writing articles and asking questions about how other fans may be impacted by the club's actions and wanting to keep us in check ethically. It's exactly what sets us apart from clubs like Chelski.
Bring on the negs and Come On You Spurs
CRINGE.
It's hard to "move on" when Spurs fans react to his potential transfer like this and this and this and this and now even stalking a writer (who is not an American).
Is it overreacting if an LGBT fan doesn't feel safe to go to a Spurs game now? Or even speak their mind? And why are people jumping to defend Aurier before our own fans, he's not even kicked a ball for us yet?
The obvious thinking is "if it doesn't effect me, then no one else should care about it."
But after we've been linked with other RBs around the same price or even cheaper than Aurier, I don't see why it's such a crime to want one of them instead of a player who called his manager a "f*ggot" said he sucks Zlatan and "takes his whole balls" on social media three days before a R16 UCL match against Chelsea and then fakes an apology so poorly that Al-Kalaifi punched a door and multiple teammates wanted him off the squad. If it's okay to call Rose a snake after he says he wants to leave, I find it incredibly hypocritical to tell people they shouldn't have a problem with Aurier.
The fans are the reason the club continues to run, we may not be on the pitch or in the boardroom but without us there is no new stadium or £40m+ signing. Personally I'm proud we have fans writing articles and asking questions about how other fans may be impacted by the club's actions and wanting to keep us in check ethically. It's exactly what sets us apart from clubs like Chelski.
Bring on the negs and Come On You Spurs
Wait....what LGBT fan would feel unsafe to go to a Spurs match because some player made a crude homophobic remark in France? How exactly does that endanger a Spurs fan in the stands? I agree that his character issues deserve careful vetting by anyone thinking of signing him but some of the hyperbole is over the top. I think it may be worth taking a chance on the kid though I am concerned about his character issues and I think it's disingenuous to assume that anyone who thinks as much doesn't care about what he said and did because it doesn't affect them. That is simply not true for me and I assume I am not alone. Poch and Levy have more to lose than I do if this turns out to be a mistake so I will rely on their best judgment.It's hard to "move on" when Spurs fans react to his potential transfer like this and this and this and this and now even stalking a writer (who is not an American).
Is it overreacting if an LGBT fan doesn't feel safe to go to a Spurs game now? Or even speak their mind? And why are people jumping to defend Aurier before our own fans, he's not even kicked a ball for us yet?
The obvious thinking is "if it doesn't effect me, then no one else should care about it."
But after we've been linked with other RBs around the same price or even cheaper than Aurier, I don't see why it's such a crime to want one of them instead of a player who called his manager a "f*ggot" said he sucks Zlatan and "takes his whole balls" on social media three days before a R16 UCL match against Chelsea and then fakes an apology so poorly that Al-Kalaifi punched a door and multiple teammates wanted him off the squad. If it's okay to call Rose a snake after he says he wants to leave, I find it incredibly hypocritical to tell people they shouldn't have a problem with Aurier.
The fans are the reason the club continues to run, we may not be on the pitch or in the boardroom but without us there is no new stadium or £40m+ signing. Personally I'm proud we have fans writing articles and asking questions about how other fans may be impacted by the club's actions and wanting to keep us in check ethically. It's exactly what sets us apart from clubs like Chelski.
Bring on the negs and Come On You Spurs
If wanting a player to build bridges with a group of our fans who understandably aren't ecstatic at the thought of him signing given his past makes you cringe then I despair.